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Tuesday, November 20, 2012

France is Going To Discover Their Endless Insistence on Multiculturalism Will Lead To Outright Racism From It's Indigenous People, as Generation Identitaire Declares War on It's Own Nation

These guys are blood and soil racists. Listen to their rhetoric. There is no place for a person like me in a world run by these maniacs. 

I dislike them almost as much as I dislike Jihadists.

From Gateway Pundit: 


In October, 70 members of the French youth group Génération Identitaire occupied the Poiters mosque to protest against the influence of Islam in France.
The youths climbed to the roof and unfurled a banner with the name of their movement.


French politicians firmly condemned the occupation.
The youth activists displayed a number of banners including one that read, Charles Martelbeat the Arabs at Poitiers in 732,” in reference to a battle credited with stopping the advance of Islam into western Europe. That was 1300 years ago.
Now the movement is back with a powerful video—
Generation Identitaire – “A Declaration of War” – From the Youth of France


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30 Comments:

Blogger Will said...

Yes Pasto, saw that vid earlier last week, didn't post the story , they remind me to much of the 'extreem right'.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

E Pluribus Unum ACTUALLY HAS MEANING

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:40:00 pm  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Great!

Left the Middle East because I'm Christian.

Can't move to the US because its impossible.

Won't be able to go to Europe because I'm brown.

Racism against whites needs to be dealt with. Multiculturalism (another name for racism against white and perceived white culture) needs to be stopped, however this isn't the way to do it.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:47:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Me too, Nico.

I'm white, but 80%+ of my family is brown-skinned.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:28:00 pm  
Blogger jeppo said...

I dislike them almost as much as I dislike Jihadists.

Of course you do. You consistently oppose every European group that are actually fighting to prevent the Islamization of their continent, like the Vlaams Belang for instance. You're very consistent in your anti-European-ness, that's for sure.

There is no place for a person like me in a world run by these maniacs.

Don't be such a drama queen. And please provide us with some examples of their 'rhetoric' that has your panties in a bunch. The truth is, Pasto, is that there is no place for traditional Europeans in a world run by self-righteous liberals like you.

This Génération Identitaire group are fighting for their very existence as a people against the Leftist-Islamist alliance that currently runs France, and you choose to side with the enemy. Maybe you should change the name of this blog after all: to the Anti-Infidel Bloggers Alliance.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:57:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jeppo,
Think about how baseless it is to characterize me as "anti-Infidel" because I oppose Ethnic Nationalism".

Being an Infidel means being non-Muslim.

So, Infidels can be of the same ethnic background as a Muslim; for instance, Egyptian Christians are Infidels.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:14:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

By the way, I meant to say, "Egyptian Christians are Infidels to Egyptian Muslims."

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:14:00 pm  
Blogger jeppo said...

Au contraire, Pasto, you *do* support ethnic nationalism, in selective cases anyway. You support Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people, do you not? Israel is a jus sanguinis society, with citizenship based on bloodlines. It doesn't get much more ethnonationalist than that.

All this GI group wants is to stop the Islamization of France. Where is the evidence of their supposed Blut und Boden nationalism?

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:36:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

One can become a Jew, Jeppo.

To answer your question, the "Blood and Soil" nationalism is clearly expressed in their Declaration of War video. Watch it.

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:39:00 pm  
Blogger jeppo said...

I watched the video when it came out months ago. It was all over the anti-jihadosphere, I'm surprised you just found it now. Anyway, I didn't see anything wrong with it. But I guess that's because I'm an unapologetic white Christian, i.e. a racist.

An Orthodox conversion to Judaism is an extremely difficult and time-consuming process that involves more than 600 steps. Only the ultra-serious need apply. I'll bet you that at least 98% of Israeli Jews are born into the faith, not converts. Israel is undeniably an ethnostate. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that!

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Conversion to Orthodox Judaism is a guided process that takes anywhere from a year to a year and a half, depending on how driven you are.

600 steps? You mean learning to do (or not do in the case of negative commandments) all of the 613 commandments and striving hard not to break them? Or are you referring to something else?

Like I said though it is a guided process. The Rabbi actually helps you through the process, makes you part of his family so you learn the holidays and mannerisms, etc. Judaism has nothing to do with ethnicity (that's an old myth used against "the JEWISH RACE"). Anyone looking at the Jews in Israel will be able to discern that much.

I don't think anyone here disagrees that multiculturalism is a disease. Culture has nothing to do with race, no matter how many times you rail against that fact, it is not going to change. Anyone can become a Jew (provided you work toward it) and hence become Israeli. Even I could do it!

Likewise, I think making race a factor in determining who should or shouldn't enter one's country is a mistake. Should it be allowed? Sure, if that's what the citizens of the country want. However, in my opinion, a better way would be what Israel adopts. Make people learn and be embedded in the culture of the country they want to move to. That way you weed out the non serious, trouble makers.

I have said it multiple times, the culture of the West is superior to any other culture in this world. However, it is not impossible for non-Whites of this world to adopt that as their own. Those that can't forget their values and culture should not remain in the West.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:44:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

I will say one thing in defense of this group though:

If I were a target of racism -- and you can't call the treatment of whites in Europe anything but racism -- day in and day out, then I would stand up like these people too.

Them a mosque probably took a whole lotta balls from these people. Where else have those who speak against Islam done anything like this?

Consider France, the country is overrun by Muslims. Every time I went to Paris and talked to people, they only said that the city had become a dump and full of crime because of people from North Africa.

Consider Paris again where Muslims block the streets on Friday to show that they have basically conquered the country.

What would you do, or what would I do if we saw this happen day in and day out?

It is easier to judge others if you haven't gone through the same process (and I am guilty of that too about 7 posts up in this thread). These people have had enough. More will rise because of this suffocating feeling that all of us feel coming toward us. But the French have been living that feeling for a long time now.

It does scare me that racism may flip on its head and turn against people like me who are not white. But what would I rather live with, given only the choice between white racism against colored people contained within France or worldwide domination of Liberals and Islam and worldwide racism against white people?

I think I'd much rather choose the former because it MAY BE better for the world over all than the cancer that is Islam and leftist ideology that goes along with Islam in unison.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:53:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

This sentence:

Them a mosque probably took a whole lotta balls from these people. Where else have those who speak against Islam done anything like this?

Should have read:

Them occupying a mosque probably took a whole lotta balls from these people. Where else have those who speak against Islam done anything like this?

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:53:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

To the extent that Israel is an Ethnostate I think it is wrong.

I am against Ethnic Nationalism.

That being said, the Jewish people are an entirely separate class, in my opinion, because of what happened to them in Europe.

I am convinced that, if the Jewish people did not have a homeland, they would be wiped out anywhere they go on Earth.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:09:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jeppo,
You may know something I do not know, but I don't think "Orthodox" conversion is the only kind that allows one to become a Israeli citizen.

http://forward.com/articles/155249/israel-slower-to-welcome-converts/?p=all

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:12:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Nico,
I am a target of racism, and this is not how I react.

I don't react to racism by holing up only with those of my race.

That is not how I live my life.

I would hope that I would never choose to live my life that way.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:14:00 am  
Blogger WC said...

Like I said years ago - Europe will eventually have to choose between two fascisms.

Islamo or Neo.

There will be NO middle ground soon.

Like Germany in the 1930s, the weak Leftist governments will be unable to control the conflict between the two.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:16:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Pasto, no of course! That's not what I meant. Like I said in the beginning, I don't agree with the group over all. However, I also understand the situation in France to be an extreme one.

There is no other way for these people to express their opinions and be heard so they find the most extreme way they can think of.

Again, I am neither condoning nor agreeing with what they're doing. I was just trying to "understand" it.

However, like I said in my previous comment, if I were to choose between Islamic rule over the whole world or a racist regime in France, I'd choose the latter.

PS: Thanks for the link about Israel.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:19:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I guess I'd choose the racist regime in France too.

And, by the way, I doubt all these people are hardcore racists, though I could be wrong. Maybe they are.

I really think people in Europe don't know any other language in which to communicate themselves.

In fact, I think there are few people in the world who know how to communicate in any other language other than

ethno-nationalism or

multiculturalism.

They are both equally as evil.

The answer is, as our friend Culturist John says, "Culturism."

That's the answer.

Culturism is based upon a set of ideas which can be taught and learned.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:22:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

That's what we stand for here. Unlike other blogs, we have thought the issue through, and we have come to a conclusion of our own. We follow no one. We have found a new synthesis and we propose others follow the idea.

The idea works. America was an example of the ideas workability, until the advent of massive Gramscian/Leftist infiltration.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:24:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

The reason Jeppo has continued to come back and argue with us for years on end is because we are the only people who actually articulate another idea other than the above dialectic of multiculturalism vs. ethno-nationaism.

I am shocked that intellectuals like Robert Spencer are not capable of seeing past the simplistic idiocy of that tired old dialectic.

I am convinced Spencer is not a racist. However, he is communicating his message in the language of the old dialectic/paradigm.

He and Pamela Geller make our movement weaker by doing so.

That being said, because of their enormous influence and because of their sincere efforts and determination, they have done a lot for the movement.

More than I have.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:27:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Agree 100% with the culturism part. There is no other way for civilization to prosper.

It wasn't too long ago that Europe was fighting a war against racism and fascism. If change is forced on people, people seldom change. Government force their opinions, their projects on people. It works for a generation when people are warming up to it but the following generation realizes the ills of the change and try to revert back.

it never works well when one day you think of a guy as sub human because of his skin color, the next day the government forces you to believe otherwise. Do you really change? I believe you don't.

The only answer, the only real answer to the problem of racism would have been education but the politicians blew it. Everywhere; from Europe to South Africa to America.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:33:00 am  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Spencer and Geller are not racist and Jeppo may not be one either. However from what I've read from Jeppo over the years if you guys (Pasto, MR,etc) held on to these ideas then I probably wouldn't be writing here at all.

Here's the thing though, really how loud are culturists? Do people really pay attention to culturism? I guess what I am wondering is how serious people really take this culturist movement.

I know John talks about it and he's written a book on it. And no offense to John but is that it (or is Geert Wilders a culturist?)?

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:38:00 am  
Blogger Jason Pappas said...

I think the cultural approach is dominant here in America, but it’s been implicit. We in the anti-jihadi movement have been very careful to focus on the ideology and practice, not the demographic groups.

I’ve been speaking to many people in Europe on both the left and right and I sense a very different problem. In each individual European country the dominant Islamic group tends to be mono-ethnic. In Germany it is Turkish, in France it is Arab/Algerian, in the UK it is Pakistani. Thus, I sense a problem maintaining the focus on the jihadi ideology--a problem excluding those motivated by race/ethnic hostility.

That being said, I still have confidence that as the counter-jihadi grows and expands they’ll have a greater ability forging a focused attack on the Islamic problem and avoid a virulent xenophobia. Yes, occasionally they'll swing to far but unless they focus on the culture, they'll never grow.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:24:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I think Jason's comment contains the entire answer to your question/comment, Nico.

I think Culturism is implicit in the American idea. And, while I think most Americans get it, it seems clear to me that people would not buy into multiculturalism if they understood the real ideas behind America.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:30:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its you, pastorius, who is stuck in dated rhetoric. Naturally as you have lived in a world where Malcolm X was praised, MLK never questioned while every remote source of criticism against minorities or any defence of the white race was deemed racist.
Your defence of Israel and unfounded criticism of GI shows your intellectual corruption, and i don't blame you. It is indeed not a world you want to live in, but the world these youngsters grew up in is much worse. Constant victims of real racism while the media informs them the same harsh rules and standards applied to them do not apply to people of other colors.


I'm certain you have praised MLK constantly, only further affirming your hypocrisy.

Leave us alone, do not try to understand because you cannot, you have no idea the shit we as youngsters have to deal with, and the mess we have to clean up due to a world left by weak men like you.




Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:03:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I'm hardly ignorant on the subject. I just happen to be one of the only people who actually speaks out on all the issue with regard to race, ethnicity, and culture.

Hence, I am disliked by all those on the opposing sides, because they all want to keep it simplistic.

You're a fool.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:59:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Here's the way our old friend BabbaZee put it:

Then I saw three impure spirits
that looked like frogs;
they came out of the mouth
of the dragon,
out of the mouth
of the beast
and out of the mouth
of the false prophet.
~ Revelation 16

The three frogs are

Leftism
Islamism
Fascism

All three are paths to destruction.

Simple people always want to divide the world into two.

It's not that simple.

We dare to deal with the real issues here, and we are hated by all sides for it.

What am I to say if people will not listen.

Probably it would be better for me to say nothing.

But, guess what, I won't shut up.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:08:00 pm  
Blogger Nicoenarg said...

Wow Pastorius, these idiots don't like your opinions and view points at all.

The way these people are acting is exactly the same as the muslims do. F*** 'em!

It may be that these morons are a little too slow and don't realize that this is your blog and you can write whatever the hell you want to write.

"Leave us alone?" Go somewhere else ya idiot!

Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:06:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

They can argue all they want too.

Usually, though, these types of arguments devolve into their calling people niggers.

Not Jeppo, though. Jeppo doesn't bother with name-calling. He is actually a thinker; a guy who recognizes ideas matter, and gives them respect.

He and I just disagree.

By the way, for my part, I have been an asshole to a lot of commenters over the years, and I probably deserve some of this hatred.

;-)

Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:14:00 pm  

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