tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post114758001696520817..comments2024-03-28T14:32:19.334+00:00Comments on Who Would Have Believed The Singularity Would Be So Stupid?: Infidel Babe Of The WeekPastoriushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1153433062502297332006-07-20T23:04:00.000+01:002006-07-20T23:04:00.000+01:00@ Pastorius:You have obviously not been reading my...@ Pastorius:<BR/><BR/>You have obviously not been reading my comments otherwise you would not have posted a message like this:<BR/><BR/>"Hey Jack,<BR/><BR/>Bend over. I'm coming to get you, you little pussy.<BR/><BR/>I didn't call the Dutch people "fascist." I called Dhimmi's like you fascist. You fucking fascist.<BR/><BR/>Fuck you, you make me sick. Islam will be good for you. Have you bought yourself a burqa yet, you pussy?"<BR/><BR/>That's a real adult way of discussing things. As for me being American, I don't know where you got that from, cause I am Dutch and since I have been watching this situation closely I know what I'm talkin about. Let me tell you this: I voted for AHA and do not regret it in any way. I think it is sad she is leaving our country in this way, had high hopes for her in our society, if my reactions seemed harsh it was only because I was (and still am) disappointed about the fact that she is leaving. People keep talking about deporting, which was not the case. Even before this whole name issue was at hand, she already had made plans to leave. If she hadn't, she would certainly not have been deported from our country.<BR/>I would like to state my profound sadness about the way people use terms like "fascist" in this discussion, therefore I am no longer participating in this discussion here. I am willing to openly discuss this situation, but seeing some people see me as a burqa-deserving fascist I do not see the point in participatin any further (and obviously people will see that as week).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1148617724912578922006-05-26T05:28:00.000+01:002006-05-26T05:28:00.000+01:00I noticed Rune making a comment about Islamic fund...I noticed Rune making a comment about Islamic fundamentalism versus a better Islam. There is no such thing. When the term "fundamentalist Christian" is used, the meaning is invariably one who holds strictly to the basic fundamental tenets of Christianity, more so than average Christians. A fundamentalist Christian would call average Christians "backsliders".<BR/><BR/>Why is the term "Islamic Fundamentalist" used any differently? An Islamic Fundamentalist holds strictly to the fundamental tenets of Islam and would call moderate Muslims backsliders!Minutemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15091296426547190046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1148034729575086892006-05-19T11:32:00.000+01:002006-05-19T11:32:00.000+01:00Hm. I don't understand. I already posted my messag...Hm. I don't understand. I already posted my message twice. Now I am only seeing it here, in the small box, but not on the official page.<BR/><BR/>Weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1148033933671074332006-05-19T11:18:00.000+01:002006-05-19T11:18:00.000+01:00@ Pastorious1. You said: “I don't understand how y...@ Pastorious<BR/>1. You said: “I don't understand how you, as a person of conscience, can even compare the two. In my opinion, you have a severe case of moral conflation.”<BR/><BR/>What makes you think you may diagnose me like that? Are you a shrink? And even then.. <BR/>Your argument that I shouldn’t compare suffering of women all over the world is false because I didn’t. It is you doing that! And for your information: I never would make an hierarchy in suffering. Why? Because my parents as survivors of the WOII were doing that to each other all the time. My sister and I learned from that. Suffering is suffering. My father lost his Jewish family because of the murderous naziregime. My mother was forced in slave labour by the same regime and got bombed by the Allied Forces. Both suffered and were emotionally hurt.<BR/><BR/>2. You say I am ignorant mentioning education as a tool to bring about better conditions for women.<BR/>Why? You don’t give an argument for that..<BR/><BR/>3. You say: “ Civilizations can be measured by the way they treat women.” You’re right. I even would stretch that to other groups like elderly, mental/physical ill people and so on. In that way every society has its own responsability, even yours. For instance: when I hear that there are groups and movements like pro-life that want to skip the right for abortion in the US and even doctors are being shot, I think there is a lot to be gained within your own country. It was Bush’ his first act deminishing the aid funds to developing countries in order to give birth control posibilities. A kind of “thank you” to his conservative electorate and financial promotors just after his inauguration in january 2001.<BR/><BR/>4. You say that you can’t take depency on man out of women’s nature. I don’t agree because that is not a natural thing. It is not in female genes to be dependant. It is a cultural thingie...so it might change by changing conditions like upbringing, education and so on. <BR/><BR/>5. You say: “ And the reason my worldview changed so dramatically is because I realized that the proclamations of countries like Iran saying they want to kill the Infidel and destroy the US, were not just bluster.”<BR/>I am sorry to read that. It is an disproportional change of view, imo. How is it possible that a big world power like the US can be provoked by such small countries like Iran, Iraq or other third world states. It is typical for the Bush doctrine of pre-emptiveness of strikes. I do not agree with that. The US now, and the Coalition of the willing, have another Vietnam-like war at their hands in Iraq. Not in my name!<BR/><BR/>6. You say: “ These people will do anything they can to kill as many of us as possible.”<BR/>On my bookshelf I have the dvd “Bowling for Columbine”, a docu by Michael Moore as you might well know. I think it would be an act of mental hygiene to introspect as a American citizen and realize that there is even more agression and violence within your society than is coming from abroad. I know by creating an outside enemy you may give a blind eye to the one within.<BR/><BR/>7. You asked: “What did it (9/11) teach you?” <BR/>The blunt blow of 9/11 didn’t learn me anything but the reactions afterwards a lot. The best it is put to words by the Tsjech philosopher Slavoj Zizek in his booklet “Welcome to the desert of the real!; five essays on September 11 and related dates”. <BR/><BR/>Of course 9/11 shook me emotionally and it made me paint a lot of war images rooted in my childhood.<BR/><BR/>Yesterday evening we had rehearsals with my Yiddish choir. My solo is a song on the words of a poem by Abraham Reisen “Ikh un di velt”. It is the story of my life. I give you the words and translation:<BR/><BR/>Ven di gantse velt volt layden,<BR/>Mir aleyn zol gut zayn bloyz,<BR/>Volt ikh dan di velt, di gantse,<BR/>Ayngeladn in mayn hoyz.<BR/>Ikh volt treystn zi un tsertlen,<BR/>Un gezogt: Nit zorg zikh velt.<BR/>Biz zi volt tsu zikh gekumen.<BR/>Un zikh oyf di fis geshtelt.<BR/><BR/>Ven di velt geven volt gliklekh,<BR/>Ikh aleyn bloyz ful mit leyd,<BR/>Volt ikh dan tsu ir gekumen<BR/>Un gefodert: Gib mir freyd!<BR/>Ober az mir layden beyde,<BR/>I di velt, i ikh aleyn,<BR/>Hot di velt nit vu tsu kumen<BR/>Un ikh hob nit vu tsu geyn.<BR/><BR/>(If the whole world were suffering and things were good only for me, I would invite the whole world to my house. I would comfort and caress it, and say: Don’t worry, world! Till it recovered and got back on its feet. If the world were happy and only I were suffering, I would go to it and demand: Give me happiness! But since both of us are suffering, the world and I, the world has no one to go to and neither I.)<BR/><BR/>I wish mrs Magan and everybody else all the best. Same to you.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1148033524694549692006-05-19T11:12:00.000+01:002006-05-19T11:12:00.000+01:00@ Pastorious1. You said: “I don't understand how y...@ Pastorious<BR/>1. You said: “I don't understand how you, as a person of conscience, can even compare the two. In my opinion, you have a severe case of moral conflation.”<BR/><BR/>What makes you think you may diagnose me like that? Are you a shrink? And even then.. <BR/>Your argument that I shouldn’t compare suffering of women all over the world is false because I didn’t. It is you doing that! And for your information: I never would make an hierarchy in suffering. Why? Because my parents as survivors of the WOII were doing that to each other all the time. My sister and I learned from that. Suffering is suffering. My father lost his Jewish family because of the murderous naziregime. My mother was forced in slave labour by the same regime and got bombed by the Allied Forces. Both suffered and were emotionally hurt.<BR/><BR/>2. You say I am ignorant mentioning education as a tool to bring about better conditions for women.<BR/>Why? You don’t give an argument for that..<BR/><BR/>3. You say: “ Civilizations can be measured by the way they treat women.” You’re right. I even would stretch that to other groups like elderly, mental/physical ill people and so on. In that way every society has its own responsability, even yours. For instance: when I hear that there are groups and movements like pro-life that want to skip the right for abortion in the US and even doctors are being shot, I think there is a lot to be gained within your own country. It was Bush’ his first act deminishing the aid funds to developing countries in order to give birth control posibilities. A kind of “thank you” to his conservative electorate and financial promotors just after his inauguration in january 2001. Not a very emancipatory thing to do, don't you think?<BR/><BR/>4. You say that you can’t take depency on man out of women’s nature. I don’t agree because that is not a natural thing. It is not in female genes to be dependant. It is a cultural thingie...so it might change by changing conditions like upbringing, education and so on. <BR/><BR/>5. You say: “ And the reason my worldview changed so dramatically is because I realized that the proclamations of countries like Iran saying they want to kill the Infidel and destroy the US, were not just bluster.”<BR/>I am sorry to read that. It is an disproportional change of view, imo. How is it possible that a big world power like the US can be provoked by such small countries like Iran, Iraq or other third world states. It is typical for the Bush doctrine of pre-emptiveness of strikes. I do not agree with that. The US now, and the Coalition of the willing, have another Vietnam-like war at their hands in Iraq. Not in my name!<BR/><BR/>6. You say: “ These people will do anything they can to kill as many of us as possible.”<BR/>On my bookshelf I have the dvd “Bowling for Columbine”, a docu by Michael Moore as you might well know. I think it would be an act of mental hygiene to introspect as a American citizen and realize that there is even more agression and violence within your society than is coming from abroad. I know by creating an outside enemy you may give a blind eye to the one within.<BR/><BR/>7. You asked: “What did it (9/11) teach you?” <BR/>The blunt blow of 9/11 didn’t learn me anything but the reactions afterwards a lot. The best it is put to words by the Tsjech philosopher Slavoj Zizek in his booklet “Welcome to the desert of the real!; five essays on September 11 and related dates”. <BR/><BR/>Of course 9/11 shook me emotionally and it made me paint a lot of war images rooted in my childhood.<BR/><BR/>Yesterday evening we had rehearsals with my Yiddish choir. My solo is a song on the words of a poem by Abraham Reisen [b]Ikh un di velt[/b]. It is the story of my life. I give you the words and translation:<BR/><BR/>[i]Ven di gantse velt volt layden,<BR/>Mir aleyn zol gut zayn bloyz,<BR/>Volt ikh dan di velt, di gantse,<BR/>Ayngeladn in mayn hoyz.<BR/>Ikh volt treystn zi un tsertlen,<BR/>Un gezogt: Nit zorg zikh velt.<BR/>Biz zi volt tsu zikh gekumen.<BR/>Un zikh oyf di fis geshtelt.<BR/><BR/>Ven di velt geven volt gliklekh,<BR/>Ikh aleyn bloyz ful mit leyd,<BR/>Volt ikh dan tsu ir gekumen<BR/>Un gefodert: Gib mir freyd!<BR/>Ober az mir layden beyde,<BR/>I di velt, i ikh aleyn,<BR/>Hot di velt nit vu tsu kumen<BR/>Un ikh hob nit vu tsu geyn.[/i]<BR/><BR/>(If the whole world were suffering and things were good only for me, I would invite the whole world to my house. I would comfort and caress it, and say: Don’t worry, world! Till it recovered and got back on its feet. If the world were happy and only I were suffering, I would go to it and demand: Give me happiness! But since both of us are suffering, the world and I, the world has no one to go to and neither I.)<BR/><BR/>I wish mrs Magan and everybody else all the best. Same to you.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147981543703861782006-05-18T20:45:00.000+01:002006-05-18T20:45:00.000+01:00Barbara,Who asked your heritage?Yes, the name is t...Barbara,<BR/>Who asked your heritage?<BR/><BR/>Yes, the name is taken from the Weather Report bass player, my favorite musician.<BR/><BR/>You and I are so far apart in our understanding of the world that debate is not going to help. To me, it is obvious that women in the West have been oppressed, but the oppression of lack of birth control, and uneven wages, and of Barbie dolls, and princess stories, is nothing compared to what goes on in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Nigeria.<BR/><BR/>I don't understand how you, as a person of conscience, can even compare the two.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion, you have a severe case of moral conflation.<BR/><BR/>To say that you don't mind that Islam takes over and brings with it the practices of the aforementioned countries, because education will bring the women into the modern world seems profoundly ignorant to me.<BR/><BR/>Civilizations can be measured by the way they treat women. Because men are bigger and stronger, there never has been a society which treats women competely equally, and there never will be. Women also have the disadvantage that many of them want to have babies and stay home and take care of them. This causes women to become dependant on men. <BR/><BR/>I don't think you can take that out of all women through education. Nor do I think it is in the best interest of society to try to hammer that out of women's nature.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I understand where you are coming from now.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and by the way, the fact that Hirsi Ali may have had different opinions vis a vis Islam prior to 9/11 doesn't mean that she is a political manipulator and opportunist. Many people had their worldviews instantaneously changed on 9/11. I did, for instance. I am a lifelong liberal. Never voted for a Republican until I voted for George Bush in the 2004 election. And the reason my worldview changed so dramatically is because I realized that the proclamations of countries like Iran saying they want to kill the Infidel and destroy the US, were not just bluster. These people will do anything they can to kill as many of us as possible.<BR/><BR/>That is what 9/11 taught me.<BR/><BR/>What did it teach you?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147888857788057452006-05-17T19:00:00.000+01:002006-05-17T19:00:00.000+01:00Here is the link to the NYT-article:http://www.nyt...Here is the link to the NYT-article:<BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/03/magazine/03ALI.html?pagewanted=3&ei=5090&en=7272f7f8332d2c15&ex=1270267200&partner=rssuserlandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147888070275808482006-05-17T18:47:00.000+01:002006-05-17T18:47:00.000+01:001.Here is a link to her sympathising with the Musl...1.Here is a link to her sympathising with the Muslim Brotherhood. <BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirsi_Ali<BR/><BR/>2. She told it in the VPRO-program of Zomergasten in 2004 where she showed her small film Submission:<BR/>http://www.vpro.nl/programma/zomergasten/afleveringen/17869746/items/18934598/<BR/><BR/>3. The same thing she said in the NYT: "‘’We all wanted to be martyrs,’’ Hirsi Ali says, ‘’or I did, because we saw what the Iraqi army was doing to the Iranians."<BR/><BR/>The event of 9/11 produced the shock of the big change. She saw the light as we say in Holland!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147887230959482782006-05-17T18:33:00.000+01:002006-05-17T18:33:00.000+01:00P.S.: I am originally a mix of a Dutch Jew and a C...P.S.: I am originally a mix of a Dutch Jew and a Christian German.<BR/><BR/>Goodbye again...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147886831362135652006-05-17T18:27:00.000+01:002006-05-17T18:27:00.000+01:00@ Pastorius (which is the name of a member of Weat...@ Pastorius (which is the name of a member of Weather Report)<BR/>You tell me two things:<BR/>1. That a lot of suffering of women is typically related to the Islam.<BR/>2. That is Islam is going to take over power in the world.<BR/><BR/>Ad 1: I am an old feminist. I struggled a lot to get things right for me and my sisters. When I see what my mother and further back had to suffer from, even though they were living in so called Western societies, I pity them. And even now machism and paternalism isn't gone. My opinion is that suddenly some males are interested in female emancipation just to beat/hurt Islamic men. I find that very irritating. Not so long ago these men were obstructing my emancipation. I find that hypocrite.<BR/><BR/>Ad 2: You say that because of the replacement rate Islam is taking over. Well, so be it. I don't want to fight that left alone that there would be a possibility to do it. The R.K. Church for instance had the dogma of not using birth control just to keep up numbers of Catholics. I find that sick. It makes women breeding machines. So, if the time has come that because of numbers Islam will grow, well once again, so be it. You can't bring fear in my heart.<BR/><BR/>However, I don't think that will happen. Or rather development and education will lead to something else. I studied a bit the processes going on in Africa. During a period of 5 years I was married to a Togolese asylumseeker, you know. He was a liberal Muslem. When you read books of Maya Angelou, Buchi Emecheta, Nadine Gordimer, even of my niece Barbara Trapido, you will see that by giving women a higher level of education, her giving birth will get to a higher age and at the same time the number of children goes down. This is happening in countries in Africa where development of society is going up. So, if this is the case you only have to educate little girls and give them a lot of opportunities to study longer and then this doom scenario of yours wil fade away....<BR/><BR/>Goodbye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147863516393067222006-05-17T11:58:00.000+01:002006-05-17T11:58:00.000+01:00@ PastoriusI am a teacher Mathematics. So I have a...@ Pastorius<BR/><BR/>I am a teacher Mathematics. So I have a lot of foreign children in my classes. <BR/><BR/>I really can't see what mrs Magan contributed to emancipate this group. She just worked with the conservatives - Magan is a MP for the VVD - to make the political conditions harsh, almost unbearable. By making the film Submission, which I find rather boring, she didn't reach out or stimulated discussions, but she just offended. It didn't help me and my collegues much!!!<BR/><BR/>And now the changed rules - Rijkswet ter verkrijging van het Nederlandschap - to which she and her rightwing party contributed turn against herself. It is ironic but true.<BR/><BR/>Your argument that she risked her life to give me freedom is really outrageous. In a way it is chantage.<BR/>In this country we have a lot of very, mostly tiny, but still very fundamentalist Christian groups. Like in the US. <BR/>I know a lot of people that are suffering from a childhood with an upbringing within those extreme groups too.<BR/><BR/>Within every religion there are extremes and fundis.<BR/><BR/>What I would like to know about you is why you think me and others are not understanding? Do you think you know the ultimate truth? Are you a prophet? Or a guru perhaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147859200757964582006-05-17T10:46:00.000+01:002006-05-17T10:46:00.000+01:00Barbara,She RISKED HER LIFE to protect your Freedo...Barbara,<BR/><BR/>She RISKED HER LIFE to protect your Freedom.<BR/><BR/>YOu are correct in saying my debating tactic is a bit unfair, but the point I am making is that she lived through the reality of Islam, and she is angry about it, and justifiably so.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, you are debating technicalities.<BR/><BR/>You are debating technicalities with regards to a woman who is a giant of Western Civlization.<BR/><BR/>You remind me of the Roman Centurions who played lots for the clothes of Christ.<BR/><BR/>It really is pathetic.<BR/><BR/>What is wrong with you that you can't see what you are doing? You seem like an intelligent woman.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147821278331741212006-05-17T00:14:00.000+01:002006-05-17T00:14:00.000+01:00OK. She is coming to your country. You will see.Fu...OK. She is coming to your country. You will see.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, I don't like the debating trick you are using. Why should it be necessary to have had a circumcision myself to have an opinion about it, in fact to reject it? There are many ways to obtain knowledge, you know.<BR/><BR/>And finally: you don't know what my experiences in life are on which my opinions are based.<BR/><BR/>Right now I am watching the debating in parliament about the nationality of mrs Magan. I am sorry to see that she is getting so much attention where ordinary refugees are ignored. Some people are more equal than others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147808830165177382006-05-16T20:47:00.000+01:002006-05-16T20:47:00.000+01:00Barbara,I would imagine we do make mistakes here. ...Barbara,<BR/>I would imagine we do make mistakes here. However, I think you are foolish to believe that Hirsi Ali is simply a careerist.<BR/><BR/>How would you like to have had someone forcibly lop off your clitoris when you were a little girl?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147761693146403052006-05-16T07:41:00.000+01:002006-05-16T07:41:00.000+01:00In rather a hurry I read most of the comments on w...In rather a hurry I read most of the comments on what is happening to Ayaan Hirsi Magan, that is her real name after the lies about her identity came out last week. I am am now convinced that most of you people don't know anything about the situation in which all is "embedded" over here, the Netherlands.<BR/><BR/>It's the conservatives (you call them liberals but conservative they are) that now are dropping their MP, mrs. Magan. They "have" to do it because they are in the government responsible for the most strict immigration and asylum policy ever. They are shooting in their own foot you might say.<BR/><BR/>Most of the Dutch lefties (you call them liberals) don't think mrs. Magan should be turned to the illegal status considering the harshness of the current policy despicable.<BR/><BR/>I think mrs Magan knew very well what she was doing all the time. My opinion is that she is a career woman getting her position and profiting from the worldwide hate against Muslims after 9/11. Before that she herself was a member of the Muslem Brotherhood, a very conservative Muslima!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147727063355709802006-05-15T22:04:00.000+01:002006-05-15T22:04:00.000+01:00@Rune, You've covered the topic extensively...I sa...@Rune, You've covered the topic extensively...I saw your post after I submitted mine...Had I read it beforem I wouldn't have bothered.<BR/><BR/>YasminAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147724409384975232006-05-15T21:20:00.000+01:002006-05-15T21:20:00.000+01:00Hi, Pastorius...I've just sent you an email reques...Hi, Pastorius...I've just sent you an email requesting membership.<BR/><BR/>@Jack Haemon,<BR/><BR/>Indeed Ayaan did write submission, but aren’t you taking away due credit from Theo Van Gogh by referring to his directing as mere "contract work"? Van Gogh received numerous death threats before he was finally murdered but he refused to have these threats diminish his quality of life. He was either very brave or did not comprehend the possibility that such threats could be carried out on Dutch soil. Ayaan did warn him to take the security arrangements seriously and I doubt there’s anyone who grieves for her friend more than she. <BR/><BR/>Jack, no one should die for offending…regardless of the situation. If we murder all those that offend us what sort society will we have? Muslims are no exception to this rule, and if they don‘t like it then they should migrate to Muslim lands. I know Ayaan’s case is probably abstract to you, but it isn’t to me. If my relatives or community were to find out about my convictions I would no doubt be showered with death threats…and would probably require security. No doubt , if I were left to your mercy you’d rather let me die than “suckin up millions worth of tax money”, as you put it.<BR/><BR/>YasminAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147717749566722082006-05-15T19:29:00.000+01:002006-05-15T19:29:00.000+01:00Yasmin,If you would like to contribute, just leave...Yasmin,<BR/>If you would like to contribute, just leave me an email address, and I will send you an invitation email. Or, click on the Envelope link on the side of our blog here, and leave us an email there.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147717679262297162006-05-15T19:27:00.000+01:002006-05-15T19:27:00.000+01:00Yasmin,Would you like to become a regular contribu...Yasmin,<BR/><BR/>Would you like to become a regular contributor to Infidel Bloggers Alliance. We need you.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147712034614717912006-05-15T17:53:00.000+01:002006-05-15T17:53:00.000+01:00Having read more, now I find that Jack Haemon is a...Having read more, now I find that Jack Haemon is an American. God, what a shame on us.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147711927580802762006-05-15T17:52:00.000+01:002006-05-15T17:52:00.000+01:00Since I wrote my first response to Jack, I have re...Since I wrote my first response to Jack, I have read a few of the other responses to him. They are rational refutations of his idiocy. I particularly like Yasmin's comment.<BR/><BR/>However, I must say, that a man like Jack does not, in my opinion, deserve a rational response. He deserves a burqa. He deserves to live like the people whose lives he would throw away.<BR/><BR/>I don't often wish justice on people, but in the two years I have been blogging I have rarely seen a idiot of the magnitude displayed by Jack.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147710132218680202006-05-15T17:22:00.000+01:002006-05-15T17:22:00.000+01:00You make me sick by calling me a fool and staying ...You make me sick by calling me a fool and staying anonymous as you are. I am not a muslim, I am not American and I am certainly not responsible for Theo van Gogh getting killed. Where do you get the arrogance to say the things you say? I dont blame the women (whatever gave you that idea), I am all for freedom of speech but I am against freedom of offending other people and getting others killes for that. Ayaan wrote the Submission script, Theo van Gogh was merely contracted to produce the work, yet he ends up getting ritualllu slaughtered in the streets of Amsterdam while Ayaan, after suckin up millions worth of taxmoney and LYING about practically everything, she moves to the US to go lick George Bush's ass clean with her lying tongue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147709265878169052006-05-15T17:07:00.000+01:002006-05-15T17:07:00.000+01:00Although her cause is a just one, I can be argued ...Although her cause is a just one, I can be argued that the battle she is fightnig should not be carried out in the dutch parliament, but on the streets.<BR/>The fact that she faces extradition is her own fault (lying is not a nice thing to do when applying for a Visa. try to do that next time you (as a foreigner) go to the US and find out what happens). The current minister of immigration has chosen to have a strict interpretation of the law and seems to leave no way other then removal of her passport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147708482325033802006-05-15T16:54:00.000+01:002006-05-15T16:54:00.000+01:00As I said earlier; she after Condoleeza Rices job!...As I said earlier; she after Condoleeza Rices job! Just wait and see. Thank God I'm not an American citizan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-1147706397127007302006-05-15T16:19:00.000+01:002006-05-15T16:19:00.000+01:00"With her polarising policy she has been forcing o..."With her polarising policy she has been forcing our citizens to pay millions on security, with her extreme views on Islam she got one of our most prominent filmmakers ever killed."<BR/><BR/>Typical ... blame the woman ... not the ones trying to kill her!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com