tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post5480385395325116838..comments2024-03-28T14:32:19.334+00:00Comments on Who Would Have Believed The Singularity Would Be So Stupid?: 10 Failed Utopias and How They Got That WayPastoriushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-60509849964923376042018-04-26T12:54:24.758+01:002018-04-26T12:54:24.758+01:00Thanks for clarifying.
I wasn't sure where y...Thanks for clarifying. <br /><br />I wasn't sure where you were coming from.<br /><br />Cohesion requires morality in a benevolent anarchy which is what a Commune is. The early Christians lived in a Communal way.<br /><br />But at a certain point, even they had to say, "He who doesn't work, doesn't eat."Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-2778025930565649882018-04-26T06:00:19.968+01:002018-04-26T06:00:19.968+01:00Canudos was a reaction to circumstances of time an...Canudos was a reaction to circumstances of time and place and its destruction was a counter reaction by a government that viewed it as a threat. The story is fascinating to me but I doubt I would be happy in a religious commune.<br /><br />Nonetheless, a "utopian" community can be successful on its own terms if participation is voluntary, values are shared, and rule is reasonable. Cristiania in Denmark could be citied as a modern example but that enclave has had its problems with drugs and gangs and survives only because of the tolerance of the national government.<br /><br />Monasteries and Convents thrived for centuries in Europe and elsewhere (eg Shaolin Temple). But these examples make one struggle to define utopia. In essence it comes down to a question of whether one is happier inside than outside the walls.<br /><br />As for a perfect society where everyone is happy and nobody experiences pain and suffering: forget it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-60360050317327701192018-04-26T03:23:18.961+01:002018-04-26T03:23:18.961+01:00Are you a fan of Canudos?Are you a fan of Canudos?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-20794625846940221962018-04-25T23:33:07.053+01:002018-04-25T23:33:07.053+01:00One of the more spectacular "utopias" of...One of the more spectacular "utopias" of history is almost completely forgotten: Canudos in northern Brazil in the late 19th century.<br /><br />That colony was actually successful, at least as long as it lasted, peaking at a population of over 30,000. The Brazilian government went to war against the settlement for squatting and refusing to pay taxes. The settlers staged a heroic resistance repulsing the government forces on multiple occasions.<br /><br />Eventually might prevailed and the colony fell. Virtually every member of the community was massacred. Picture the Branch Davidians on a massive scale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com