tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post6680815485646100651..comments2024-03-19T09:54:36.273+00:00Comments on Who Would Have Believed The Singularity Would Be So Stupid?: Neo-NazismPastoriushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-40126326216014172592007-11-13T23:45:00.000+00:002007-11-13T23:45:00.000+00:00Pastorius,Maybe you should write about why birds o...Pastorius,<BR/><BR/>Maybe you should write about why birds of a feather flock together, or is that beyond you?BFBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15552658608760300087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-82469984362967231452007-11-12T13:21:00.000+00:002007-11-12T13:21:00.000+00:00Pastorius,Yeah, I should write about it.Pastorius,<BR/>Yeah, I should write about it.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-91029642829279592862007-11-12T00:51:00.000+00:002007-11-12T00:51:00.000+00:00I think you ought to write a personal type post wh...I think you ought to write a personal type post where you discuss how much this issue is effecting you.<BR/><BR/>I feel the same, although my time is taken up by business these days.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-81307501102695785582007-11-11T22:49:00.000+00:002007-11-11T22:49:00.000+00:00Pastorius,Let me be clear, I did not think you wer...Pastorius,<BR/><I>Let me be clear, I did not think you were defending this recent move towards Ethnic Nationalism.</I><BR/><BR/>Absolutely I am not advocating any such move! Absolutely!<BR/><BR/>However, historically speaking, how well has Europe ever been a melting pot? A successful one, that is. There, the USA has a great advantage. We must use that advantage!<BR/><BR/>This controversy/rift (whatever it is) is causing me to lose sleep. The issue at hand is on my mind for most of my waking hours! I haven't felt like this since those weeks immediately following 9/11. The political strategy is even more important now. It is imperative that we "counter-jihadists" are not outsmarted!<BR/><BR/>I'm not so sure that the political party needed can develop fast enough. Yes, stranger things have happened. But I am so concerned about divisions--on many levels. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure that you know the saying "Don't discuss two things over dinner: politics and religion." Well, I'm thinking about those two areas all day, every day. Ugh!<BR/><BR/>Email me after you've taped that particular IBA show. I want to listen!<BR/><BR/>PS: Wow! Look at all the exclamation points I'm using! What does that tell you?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-17585997879907770392007-11-11T17:06:00.000+00:002007-11-11T17:06:00.000+00:00AOW,Let me be clear, I did not think you were defe...AOW,<BR/><BR/>Let me be clear, I did not think you were defending this recent move towards Ethnic Nationalism.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I understand the desparation. I feel it too. <BR/><BR/>I am only making the point that we need to stick to the principles that made us great. I am not saying, like the loony leftists in the U.S. that we can not suspend certain laws, and protections in order to win the war. Certainly, we can and must do so.<BR/><BR/>However, the turn towards Ethnic Nationalism is more than suspending a law. It is, instead, an attempt to redefine what we mean by Western Civilization. Supposedly, we have become a better civilization than others around the world exactly because we live by ideas rather than instinct.<BR/><BR/>As for point 2), you said: 2. Establishing a new political party takes time. Is there such a margin of time?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I say: yes, it does, but not as long as people may think. <BR/><BR/>The Republican party was founded in 1854. Six years later, Lincoln was President and five years after that he had won the war and abolished slavery.<BR/><BR/><BR/>You said: Lately, I've been feeling that terminology has become a problem. For example, "infidel" has come to mean something it did not originally mean. See Wiki. I'm certainly not suggesting a name change for IBA, but I think you can see what I mean by what I like to refer to as "differing definitions."<BR/><BR/><BR/>I say: I am going by the definition: one who doubts certain tenets of a religion.<BR/><BR/>By the definition, we are all Infidels here, as we doubt most of the tenets of Islam.<BR/><BR/><BR/>You said: IMO, the counter-jihad (again, pardon the term) needs a charter which clearly states its position on national identity, culture, etc. I personally don't believe that the words "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" provide enough specifics. For example, Islam would have different definitions of those words.<BR/><BR/>I am concerned that the movement in which all of us here at IBA are involved neither cannibalize itself nor make alliances counter to what we believe to be the larger cause. Disagreement is one thing; a rift is another. The latter weakens our cause.<BR/><BR/>Am I making sense?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I say: I agree with you absolutely. I shall soon be discussing this on the IBA Radio Show. I have met some people in Europe who have some good ideas on this subject, and I shall be interviewing them.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-42178420661380108462007-11-11T15:53:00.000+00:002007-11-11T15:53:00.000+00:00There's been a furious reaction to a Muslim who ac...There's been a furious reaction to a Muslim who accused the British of being Nazis on the eve of Remembrance Sunday. <BR/><BR/>http://www.sundayexpress.co.uk/posts/view/24811/Muslim-brands-Britain-Nazi-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-5070855121331822122007-11-11T14:37:00.000+00:002007-11-11T14:37:00.000+00:00Pastorius,why would anyone ally themselves with hi...Pastorius,<BR/><I>why would anyone ally themselves with him?</I><BR/><BR/>Not that I am allying with the BNP or Vlaams Belang. Understand that first so as not to misunderstand the rest of my comment.<BR/><BR/>So, why?<BR/><BR/>1. Desperation. As far as I know, other political parties in those regions are hell bent on Islamification.<BR/><BR/>2. Establishing a new political party takes time. Is there such a margin of time?<BR/><BR/>3. The ability to be selective, as in "Take what you need and leave the rest."<BR/><BR/>I've been thinking about this a lot (as you know). We here at IBA represent different points along the political spectrum, the ideological spectrum. We have an alliance, though we may disagree on certain points.<BR/><BR/>I've been called many names, including "fascist." You know me. I am certainly not a fascist in any sense of the word. I've been called "racist," but I don't believe that I am; others might see me differently, but I know what's in my heart on that subject. I've even been called "Nazi," though I can't figure out just why.<BR/><BR/>I know there are data to prove otherwise. You've been posting some of that data. I haven't had time to go through all of it.<BR/><BR/>Still, the fact remains: opponents of and objectors to the counter-jihad (excuse the use of the term--you know what I mean) are labeled with same epithets, IMO, so as not to have a reasoned debate.<BR/><BR/>Lately, I've been feeling that terminology has become a problem. For example, "infidel" has come to mean something it did not originally mean. See <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel" REL="nofollow">Wiki</A>. I'm certainly not suggesting a name change for IBA, but I think you can see what I mean by what I like to refer to as "differing definitions."<BR/><BR/>IMO, the counter-jihad (again, pardon the term) needs a charter which clearly states its position on national identity, culture, etc. I personally don't believe that the words "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" provide enough specifics. For example, Islam would have different definitions of those words.<BR/><BR/>I am concerned that the movement in which all of us here at IBA are involved neither cannibalize itself nor make alliances counter to what we believe to be the larger cause. Disagreement is one thing; a rift is another. The latter weakens our cause.<BR/><BR/>Am I making sense?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-77483286366572517532007-11-11T03:50:00.000+00:002007-11-11T03:50:00.000+00:00Najistani,You may have noticed that we here at the...Najistani,<BR/><BR/>You may have noticed that we here at the Infidel Bloggers Alliance are not real big fans of Islam.<BR/><BR/>Were I the leader of the Soviet Union - as Stalin once was - I would probably do something very similar to what he did, when it comes to the Mujahadeen.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-84538978154070791602007-11-11T00:53:00.000+00:002007-11-11T00:53:00.000+00:00The most Islamically-aware leader of a major count...The most Islamically-aware leader of a major country in modern history was undoubtedly Joseph Stalin. He generously donated millions of roubles to buy oneway tickets on the trans-Siberian railway to provide potential mujahadeen with gainfull employment in mineral extraction during the 20's and 30's .<BR/><BR/>Was Stalin a Nationalist? <BR/>Was he a Georgian or was he a Russian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-29288958489562444642007-11-10T16:18:00.000+00:002007-11-10T16:18:00.000+00:00Because it is defined ideas which form the foundat...Because it is defined ideas which form the foundation of all political movement, let Belien define what he means by "National identity".<BR/><BR/>Until he does so, why would anyone ally themselves with him?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-86859235987744518132007-11-10T16:13:00.000+00:002007-11-10T16:13:00.000+00:00AOW,I do think the question is open in this way:Cl...AOW,<BR/><BR/>I do think the question is open in this way:<BR/><BR/>Clearly, many of those who have joined forces with parties such as the Vlaams Belang and the BNP, are not racists. Their ideas of Nationalism are built on ideology whether they are able to articulate such ideas or not.<BR/><BR/>However, it is Belien's final sentence quoted here which is the give away to the potential evils which could be unleashed were his intellectual foundation to be the future of Europe,<BR/><BR/>"Hitler would have been proud of them [the jihadists]. And he would have loathed the so-called "racists" who worry about their country losing its national identity."<BR/><BR/>Why is it that Belien does not define what he means by "national identity"? Every single Vlaams Belang/BNP person who has defined that for me has come down on the side of <BR/><BR/>ETHNIC NATIONALISM.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I can not go there. <BR/><BR/>Western Civilization has progressed beyond such notions. I am not willing to go backwards with those who believe the white race to have the only true understanding of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Ethnic Nationalism is, no matter how you slice it, racist in its foundation.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-54810048515520248792007-11-10T13:52:00.000+00:002007-11-10T13:52:00.000+00:00If the Nazi party reformed announced it was sorry ...If the Nazi party reformed announced it was sorry about the few million Jews they exterminated and promised that they were no longer Anti-semetic, would any one with an I Q above, say 3, believe them?WATCHER71https://www.blogger.com/profile/05288846801308445615noreply@blogger.com