tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post6717117213940953246..comments2024-03-28T14:32:19.334+00:00Comments on Who Would Have Believed The Singularity Would Be So Stupid?: What Are Their Names? 2 Deaths In Chemical Incident In St. LouisPastoriushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-44460059028801879642008-09-01T13:10:00.000+01:002008-09-01T13:10:00.000+01:00""I don't think that is a good outcome, do you?""N...""I don't think that is a good outcome, do you?""<BR/><BR/>Not at all. You must name the enemy before you can defeat him. Too much of what goes on around the world is being sugarcoated in order for us to not get excited about it.SamenoKamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520614271345413014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-84657031581502453172008-09-01T04:42:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:42:00.000+01:00Thanks for the help.I've started a new post/thread...Thanks for the help.<BR/><BR/>I've started a new post/thread at the top of the page based upon the information you have fed me.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-35336324399428090942008-09-01T04:36:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:36:00.000+01:00"Robins said the workers were not scheduled to be ...<A HREF="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/3128C866D656A591862574B600571281?OpenDocument" REL="nofollow"><I>"Robins said</I></A> <I>the workers were not scheduled to be at the facility on Saturday but went in after a customer called in a special order. He had few details on the accident."</I><BR/><BR/>Despite workers not being scheduled to be at the facility - someone was available to take a phone order. This individual not only accepted this order, but managed to find the personnel to fulfill this order on unscheduled time. <BR/><BR/> Such flexiblity presents a question of security. What could this chemical be used for that it warranted an unscheduled order fulfillment on a day no workers were scheduled to be at the warehouse? Who took the order? Who placed the order? For what purpose? Who called in the workers, and by what protocol and authority?<BR/><BR/> Is this how insecure such chemical warehouses are in this country? <BR/><BR/> <BR/>There is plenty of reason to be concerned here, even if no terror is related. <BR/>Identify and interview the workers involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-91524660440436539442008-09-01T04:16:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:16:00.000+01:00To anyone who thinks I am being extreme here, well...To anyone who thinks I am being extreme here, well, maybe I am. But, I have reasons to be suspicious and I have articulated them. Not only have I articulated my reasons, but I have made it clear why I think that hiding this problem only hurts the situation, and does not help.<BR/><BR/>We have a real problem on our hands when we are at war and the citizens of our country think we have no reason to be, and yet, our government is spending money by the hundreds of billions and we are losing our best and brightest in deserts where the people hate us.<BR/><BR/>That is a problem. <BR/><BR/>And, it becomes an even worse problem when our government lies to us.<BR/><BR/>I've had it. From now on, my suspicion meter is stuck permanently on high.<BR/><BR/>As I've been joking about, we ought to change the name of this blog to "NOT TERROR-RELATED" because it seems that everything we talk about here is declared to be not terror-related by some official or other.<BR/><BR/>Sad state of affairs.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-991265667330125392008-09-01T04:14:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:14:00.000+01:00BND.com has video footage of the clean up.It also ...<A HREF="http://www.bnd.com/breaking_news/story/455439.html" REL="nofollow"> BND.com</A> has video footage of the clean up.<BR/><BR/>It also provides this curious FBI accounting/statement which does not account for all of the victims:<BR/><BR/><I>FBI Spokesman Price McCarty said <B>a total of eight people</B>, all Ro-Corp. plant workers, <B>were injured</B>.<BR/>One of the eight was released from Barnes Jewish Hospital in St. Louis Sunday evening, while at least four other victims remained hospitalized.<BR/>The victim at St. Louis University Hospital remained in serious condition, while the conditions of all three victims at St. Anthony’s Medical Center in south St. Louis County had upgraded from stable to satisfactory, according to a hospital statement. </I><BR/><BR/>That statement accounts for five of the eight injured workers. What about the other three?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-30134429124608788632008-09-01T04:12:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:12:00.000+01:00Anonymous,You said: Hell will freeze over before t...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>You said: Hell will freeze over before the names of the dead will be released.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I say: I think you're right. If "no one died" then there are no names to report, right?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-88032410946462466582008-09-01T04:11:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:11:00.000+01:00SamenoKami,Ok, I see where you're coming from.The ...SamenoKami,<BR/>Ok, I see where you're coming from.<BR/><BR/>The problem with our officials taking that tact is that it keeps the population from facing the truth about the Jihad, and believing that we have no reason to be at war.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that is a good outcome, do you?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-23458967022663559132008-09-01T04:08:00.000+01:002008-09-01T04:08:00.000+01:00Maybe the deaths that occurred were not the result...Maybe the deaths that occurred were not the result of chemicals, but instead were ruled vague suicides, like the indigent man with a pound of cyanide in Denver...Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-2923868567765751032008-09-01T03:59:00.000+01:002008-09-01T03:59:00.000+01:00St. Louis Today updateSUN AUG 31, 2008: Employees ...<A HREF="http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/3128C866D656A591862574B600571281?OpenDocument" REL="nofollow">St. Louis Today update</A>SUN AUG 31, 2008: <I>Employees with Hulcher Services Inc, an environmental cleanup company out of Memphis vacuum the loading dock at G.S. Robins & Co. Sunday afternoon in East. St. Louis where a toxic powder mishap Saturday hospitalized several employees.</I> <BR/><BR/><I>"Steve Robins, president of the G.S. Robins & Co., the parent company Ro-Corp Inc., said the city manager's claim that there had been two deaths was wrong and <B>no one died.</B></I> (Laurie Skrivan/P-D)<BR/><BR/>Wow . . .were there really no deaths from this accident or is this the story to make it all go away?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-32963472072222026442008-09-01T03:04:00.000+01:002008-09-01T03:04:00.000+01:00According to the Miami Herald , the Feds have dism...According to the Miami Herald , the Feds have dismissed this incident already as well . . .<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/665987.html" REL="nofollow">McCarty said the FBI initially was called in</A> "to pinpoint whether there was anything criminal or terrorism-related about the chemical release, but agents found neither."<BR/>"Earlier Sunday, East St. Louis city manager Robert Betts said two people had died. He later told a newspaper that <B>he couldn't confirm the deaths."</B><BR/><BR/>Hell will freeze over before the names of the dead will be released.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-85684878722236844072008-09-01T02:45:00.000+01:002008-09-01T02:45:00.000+01:00The cyanide incident is bizarre. The Feds are acti...The cyanide incident is bizarre. The Feds are acting like it's no big deal, everybody has a pound or two of cyanide just sitting around. I say they are lying in order to keep everyone from panicking, which may not be a totally bad idea.SamenoKamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520614271345413014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-37195708087428472772008-09-01T00:11:00.000+01:002008-09-01T00:11:00.000+01:00SamenoKami,From having read Anonymous' comments, i...SamenoKami,<BR/>From having read Anonymous' comments, it sounds like it could be dangerous enough all by itself.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if this stuff can be aerosolized and put through air-conditioning vents.<BR/><BR/>What was the guy in Denver planning on doing with the Cyanide?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-17810356636925853452008-08-31T22:09:00.000+01:002008-08-31T22:09:00.000+01:00An inside job to obtain feedstock chemicals to mak...An inside job to obtain feedstock chemicals to make something else? What are the uses of said nitrogen-based chemicals?SamenoKamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520614271345413014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-22803658402448431592008-08-31T18:44:00.000+01:002008-08-31T18:44:00.000+01:00NECNews video report<A HREF="http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/8-people-sickened-by-chemical-spill-in-Missouri/1220200966.html" REL="nofollow">NECNews video report</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-25245743073074262462008-08-31T18:34:00.000+01:002008-08-31T18:34:00.000+01:00methemoglobinemia cyanosis, (bluish discoloration ...methemoglobinemia cyanosis, <B>(bluish discoloration of skin)</B> <A HREF="http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/n4170.htm" REL="nofollow">p-Nitroaniline</A><BR/><BR/> Hazards Identification<BR/><BR/> Emergency Overview<BR/> --------------------------<BR/> POISON! DANGER! HAZARDOUS SOLID AND DUST. HIGHLY TOXIC. RAPIDLY ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. CAUSES METHEMOGLOBINEMIA, DECREASING OXYGEN IN BLOOD. COMBUSTIBLE DUST - EXPLOSION POTENTIAL. MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED, INHALED, OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. HANDLE IN A FUME HOOD. TARGET ORGAN(S): Lungs, heart, blood, liver.<BR/><BR/> J.T. Baker SAF-T-DATA(tm) Ratings (Provided here for your convenience)<BR/> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR/> Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Life)<BR/> Flammability Rating: 1 - Slight<BR/> Reactivity Rating: 1 - Slight<BR/> Contact Rating: 3 - Severe (Life)<BR/> Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES<BR/> Storage Color Code: Blue (Health)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-46324429358628177702008-08-31T18:25:00.000+01:002008-08-31T18:25:00.000+01:00Ro-Corp, St. Louislocal centers of interest<A HREF="http://corporateaffiliations.ecnext.com/comsite5/bin/corporateaffiliations_pdlanding.pl?item_id=343607&referid=5592&pdlanding=1" REL="nofollow">Ro-Corp, St. Louis</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.islamicfinder.org/locate.php?ziporcity=62205&dist=20&lang=" REL="nofollow">local centers of interest</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-37752948739229334932008-08-31T18:18:00.000+01:002008-08-31T18:18:00.000+01:00Nitro Compounds Any of a class of chemical compoun...<A HREF="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu8rO0LpIt20AFJdXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1aGZ0NTUwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1NBTUEwMDVfNzc-/SIG=12oom2dlo/EXP=1220289102/**http%3a//www.firehouse.com/training/hazmat/chemist/2002/6_chemist.html" REL="nofollow">Nitro Compounds</A> Any of a class of chemical compounds in which the nitro group (-NO2) forms part of the molecular structure. The most common examples are organic compounds, isomers of nitrite esters in which a carbon atom is linked by a covalent bond to the nitro group's nitrogen atom. <A HREF="http://www.answers.com/topic/nitro-compound" REL="nofollow"><B>Many nitro compounds are commercially used as explosives</B></A> solvents, or raw materials and chemical intermediates. They are generally made by a reaction between nitric acid and an organic compound.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html" REL="nofollow">about the chemical involved</A> <I>The compound is toxic by way of inhalation, ingestion, and absorption, and should be handled with care. Its LD50 in rats is 750 mg/kg when administered orally. p-Nitroaniline is particularly harmful to all aquatic organisms, and can cause long-term damage to the environment if released as a pollutant.</I><BR/><BR/>.....1. <A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html#Synthesis" REL="nofollow">Synthesis</A><BR/><BR/>.....2. <A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html#Applications" REL="nofollow">Applications</A><BR/><BR/>.....3. <A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html#Toxicity" REL="nofollow">Toxicity</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/xie/pdb_site/pdb/al3045.pdb" REL="nofollow">C6H6N2O2</A><BR/>4-nitroanline highly toxic, absorbed through the skin<BR/><BR/>.....4. <A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html#See_also" REL="nofollow">See Also</A><BR/><BR/>.....5. <A HREF="http://www.neticasolution.com/932.html#References" REL="nofollow">References</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-12360702483599247762008-08-31T17:52:00.000+01:002008-08-31T17:52:00.000+01:00I read somewhere that it is an explosive material....I read somewhere that it is an explosive material.<BR/><BR/>However, it does have a relatively high flash-point of something around <BR/><BR/>200 C<BR/><BR/>I don't know much about explosives. Until someone comes around and tells us, I can't be sure. And, I forgot where I read that it was explosive, so I can't find the link.<BR/><BR/>Sorry.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-67854050267927493252008-08-31T17:26:00.000+01:002008-08-31T17:26:00.000+01:00In the plant without permission and no names yet? ...In the plant without permission and no names yet? Hmmmm....<BR/><BR/>Can the chemical be used in explosives?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com