Wednesday, June 23, 2010

Reports: IAF Landed at Saudi Base, US Troops near Iran Border

From Watcher:

Given that reports are mostly from Iranian official news agencies, they need to be taken with a grain of salt, but still...

(INN) The Israeli Air Force recently unloaded military equipment at a Saudi Arabia base, a semi-official Iranian news agency claimed Wednesday, while a large American force has massed in Azerbaijan, which is on the northwest border of Iran.

Both reports follow by less than a week the Pentagon’s confirmation that an unusually large American fleet sailed through the Suez Canal Saturday. Several reports stated that an Israeli ship joined the armada.

The Pentagon played down the news, saying the American maneuvers were routine. However, a report by Iran on Wednesday that it has enriched dozens of pounds of 17 per cent enriched uranium serves as a reminder that time is running out to stop Iran from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.

Iran’s Fars News Agency said the Israeli military aircraft landed 10 days ago at the Saudi base near the city of Tabuk, located in northwest Saudi Arabia, one of the closest areas in the oil kingdom to Iran.

Fars said that the Tabuk base will be the central station for an Israeli attack on Iran. It quoted an Islamic news site that a commercial airline passenger said the airport in Tabuk was closed to all other traffic during the alleged Israeli landings. The passenger said that "no reasonable explanation” was given for shutting down the airport and those passengers were compensated financially and booked in four-star hotels.

“The relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel have become the talk of the town,” the passenger added. The chief authority in Tabuk, Prince Fahd ben Sultan, was reported be coordinating the cooperation with Israel.

Iran’s government-funded Press TV reported that the Revolutionary Guards began closely patrolling the Islamic Republic’s northwestern border after noticing the American forces, which Iran claimed also included Israeli troops. Azerbaijan’s independent Trend news site also reported on Wednesday that American armed forces are in the country, which is in an armed conflict with rebels.

Revolutionary Guards Brigadier General Mehdi Moini said Tuesday that his forces are mobilized “due to the presence of American and Israeli forces on the western border.” The Guards reportedly have called in tanks and anti-aircraft units to the area in what amounts to a war alert.


Epaminondas said...

I've been thinking about this fleet and its meaning.

If this is a US effort our doctrine HAS BEEN, we use the Tomahawks and B-2's to take out air defense, and then run wild with std air. In Iraq that meant FOUR CV's (Attack carriers). Iran will require more, maybe half the number we have. Turkey, who would not help with Iraq, will CERTAINLY not help with their other AND NON ARAB brethren in Iran, which means forget the closest NATO air base Incirlik.

Therefore if this is to be a big effort it WILL HAVE TO BE FROM THE SAUDIS lands. ANd they , of course, have the bases we built in the 90's, PRECISELY for this size effort.

Now if I am president of the USA I am thinking about CHANGING THE WORLD FOREVER, (and my political future, and HISTORY'S VIEW).

If KSA will do this, I am talking quietly to Bibi and saying, hey, if we can trust KSA to do this, let's do something BIG and use this to kill what worries you as well as the Iranian nukes and kill HAMAS and Hezballah, who will soon be cut off from an Iran without a govt of genocidal freaks, or the IRGC, because there is NO SENSE in doing this as a little series of strikes in order to stop the Iranians for a few years, and provoke the shit out of crazy guys who will still be there with 1500 medium range missiles. Because Bibi, the only way this all makes sense in the world and in the USA is if we kill the mullahs, the IRGC, the Basij, in the effort to make a complete middle east peace in one fell swoop.

We take out the mullahs, you make a palestinian peace with the PLA under a Salam Fayad, and Hezballah and HAMAS become your victims (so sorry) as peace becomes possible backed by a new kind of relationship between the arab states and Israel, who have just wiped out THE BIG THREAT with the help of the USA. And I, BARACK OBAMA, become the greatest prez since Lincoln, and beyond claims of wimpdom and academic paralysis

The question is ..



Gimme the dice.

The Iranian govt has to die for the world to be different.

That's really all there is

Pastorius said...

Is that what you think might happen, or is that what you wish will happen? Cuz, I certainly wish the above scenario would play out.

Are you going to write something on that?


Epaminondas said...


It means the Al Saud are really desperate. But they have a hell of a selling job ahead of them with their own crazies.

If it is true that this occurred, I feel there is no reason not to 'send Stonewall Jackson around the flank of the union army'

Is Obama ready to be Lee?

I don't feel it in my heart.

But real winners know when to go for the KILL.

If the Al Saud did this there will never be a better chance to achieve peace, but this is a moment when politics is determined by the result on the battlefield and Barack is no that kind of guy.

Obama would NEVER have a better shot at influencing both sides to find a middle than over this kind of finish

midnight rider said...

Wait. . .Stonewall got killed at Chancelorsville. . .

Pastorius said...

If Obama pulled that kind of move, I would experience the same kind of turnaround in feeling I had about Reagan. I hated Reagan, but around 1987, I realized that he was doing everything he said he would do, and it was working exactly the way he said it would.

At the time, I was such a Lefty and a Conservative hater that I simply chalked it up to the idea that he was living an incredible and lucky fate, that his life was playing out like a Hollywood movie.

As I got older, I realized things worked for Reagan, because he made wise and audacious decisions.

Obama attempts to portray himself as that. If he actually pulls the move you are suggesting, he would really be wise and audacious.

He ought to invite Ahmadinejad to his daughter's Confirmation, just for drama's sake.


revereridesagain said...

One night back in the '80s a guy turned up on the Tonight Show with a dog he claimed could climb telephone poles. So they set up a pole. Said Doc Severen to Johnny Carson, "If that dog climbs that pole I'll kiss his butt".

I'm waiting to see them set up the pole before I'm willing to kiss anyone's butt on this.

p.s.: The dog climbed the pole.

Epaminondas said...

MR, yes, but after he and Lee concocted a gamble of a plan whereby the south had half the men at Chanceloresville that the north did and Lee asked Jackson if he would be willing to march his corps totally around the Union forces, out of sight and hearing in a DAY, and attack the opposite flank. And so Lee cut in half a force that was half the union, Jackson made his march and attacked and his corps of 23,000 rolled up the entire Union army while Lee held on the defensive, and the south beat an army of 103,000 CONFIDENT men.

That night in victory, Jackson was killed scouting the next day's attack but the victory was won on a strategic and tactical gamble of huge dimension, for had Hooker listened to some of his generals he would have wiped out Lee and ended the war that day.

To WIN you MUST gamble.
Any other idea is the height of foolishness.
This has been true from the field of Marathon to Schwartzkpof's swing around the republican guard.

Pastorius said...

Did Doc kiss the dogs butt?

revereridesagain said...

A definitive answer to that question was never given, if I remember correctly. Certainly not by Doc.

cjk said...

Everybody and anybody should be deeply concerned about embarking into what would prove to be a very, very, long term struggle with an implacable enemy with a character such as the Man-Child as a leader.

The child's attention span is sure to wane after he gives our enemies Carte Blanc justification to retaliate in force at a future time with a probable EMP attack.

While I fully support destroying Iran's nuclear aspirations, this is a long term serious escalation of our war with Pislam. Anything short of a full scale effort will result in our eventual destruction IMO.

I can't even believe in any sincerity of motive here apart from the November elections.

midnight rider said...

Jerusalem Post has this too

No mention of it coming from an Iranian source.

Epaminondas said...

cjk, the only way this works is total decapitation from the air, and a relentless air campaign.

Iran = stone age. They are NOT some Afghanistan. If they were, the world would not be in this pickle. They are a technical state with a modern state's needs. Minus a functioning infrastructure things like the secret police would begin to lose touch and control.

It's my belief that any strike at Natanz, Arak, etc as surgical method to kill their nukes would result in the same response from Iran as an all out effort. I think THEY THINK that they will be made safe forever if they get nukes and that makes it not just a primary goal, but worth doing anything to get.

But again, I don't believe Obama to be this kind of man. I don't think our present military leaders to be this bold. I think they are more McClellan than Sherman or Lee.

It takes not just the plan, but the leaders.

I don't see them, but I hope I am wrong.