tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post610682787508198101..comments2024-03-28T14:32:19.334+00:00Comments on Who Would Have Believed The Singularity Would Be So Stupid?: WTF??? Updated and BumpedPastoriushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-42506964786289687932009-06-11T02:04:16.135+01:002009-06-11T02:04:16.135+01:00He only fought the Nazis by accident, the guy woul...He only fought the Nazis by accident, the guy would fit in the SS quite nicely. TBH, I think/hope this case is unique in the US.<br /><br />Another thing is his age: 89 and dementia are not incompatible. Also it is very sad that a 89y.o. kills a 39y.o.andre79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-65281904470839875032009-06-11T00:43:40.322+01:002009-06-11T00:43:40.322+01:00MR,
You said: "A murderer, rapist, wife batte...MR,<br />You said: "A murderer, rapist, wife batterer, no, of course not, they should not be allowed to have a gun. BUT NEITHER SHOULD THEY BE OUT ON THE STREET IN THE FIRST PLACE. And with the limited info I have, neither should Brunn have been."<br /><br /><br />I say: Sounds reasonable to me.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-48155639947856101412009-06-11T00:43:24.975+01:002009-06-11T00:43:24.975+01:00Incidentally, I forgot to mention this in my origi...Incidentally, I forgot to mention this in my original response, IN THIS CASE the point is moot.<br /><br />That sawed off shotgun would be illegal in Pa. most certainly in D.C. and just about everywhere else. Barrel has to be 18 inches long.<br /><br />So either Brunn bought a gun and modified or bought an already modified one on the black market in which case no background check law would have made any difference at all.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-73502270814453121062009-06-11T00:35:56.671+01:002009-06-11T00:35:56.671+01:00Pastorius,
In my response to your gun question, I...Pastorius,<br /><br />In my response to your gun question, I'm a second amendment supporter. I am not a fan of gun control. But there are limits. I don't think that even the founding fathers would think that people in prison (other than the guards) should be allowed to have guns.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-54992847635996741872009-06-11T00:32:36.347+01:002009-06-11T00:32:36.347+01:00"The gun is not the problem. The PROBLEM 9not..."The gun is not the problem. The PROBLEM 9not gun) is a criminal justice system. . ."<br /><br />Sorry about that.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-48676696418389487862009-06-11T00:31:22.822+01:002009-06-11T00:31:22.822+01:00(there will be sarcasm in this response most likel...(there will be sarcasm in this response most likely. It is not directed at anyone here, but at our stupid laws and CJ system)<br /><br />Pasto -- Should convicted felons be allowed to own guns?<br /><br />Depends on what they were convicted of, I say.<br /><br />That kind of law cannot be applied evenly, although that is what the gun control crowd tries to do.<br /><br />A murderer, rapist, wife batterer, no, of course not, they should not be allowed to have a gun. BUT NEITHER SHOULD THEY BE OUT ON THE STREET IN THE FIRST PLACE. And with the limited info I have, neither should Brunn have been.<br /><br />Why is it a father who has defended his wife or daughter in public or in the home penalized AS A FELON and yet a gangbanger can get off scotfree? Or very near to it? And why should that father, uopon his release, NOT be allowed to own a gun when that gangbanger comes knocking for the wife or daughter WITH A GUN HE PURCHASED, OR STOLE, ILLEGALLY? AND WHY IS HE EVEN ON TH STREET TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT GUN?<br /><br />Yet we'll lock away a father who doesn't EARN enough money to pay support or alimony ad let loose some serial killer who has been able to get off on an insanity plea.<br /><br />How about a 45 yr old happily married mother of 2? One night when she was 23 or 24 she ahd a little too much to drink. Not enough to be visibly impaired but impaired nevertheless. Crosses the centerline, head on with a 65 yr old man. COnvicted of manslaghter(as she should be). Does whatever time is required. Now, she's a convicted felon. 21 years later, driving home from work late at night car breaks down in a less than desirable part of town.<br /><br />Body found the next morning in a dumpster raped mutilated and strangled. And she couldn't protect herself becasue she was a felon and couldn't own a gun.<br /><br />Brunn could have gone on a rampage with a hammer or knife or whatever. He chose a gun.<br /><br />The gun is not the problem. The gun is a criminal justice system gone overly soft over the years and allows the wrong people to walk after the most aggregious of crimes while wasting time money and space on candyass bullshit.<br /><br />So yes, I do believe the Founding Fathers intended just that. ANy free man or woman could own a gun. For personal protection, home & town defense and to be used, as a last resort, against a tyrranical government.<br /><br />What they never thought they'd see is violent felons allowed to walk as freely as they are these days. Their penalties were more severe. And meted out without liberal lawyers interested only in sensationalism and the dollar to get their clients off, justice be damned.<br /><br />Do you think O.J. would have walked if Jefferson and Adams and Washington had been on that jury? Or do you thin k we'd never have to worry about him, or anyone like him, trying to own a gun?<br /><br />The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.<br /><br />Period.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-43461216892601441112009-06-11T00:17:01.955+01:002009-06-11T00:17:01.955+01:00Total,
That makes sense. A sawed off shotgun sou...Total,<br /><br />That makes sense. A sawed off shotgun sounds a bit easier to conceal than one of those old long rifles. It also would have a faster rate of fire. Which would explain how he was able to shot two people before being taken down.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-51374665532927246142009-06-11T00:02:09.481+01:002009-06-11T00:02:09.481+01:00Total -- I hadn't heard that but that's ex...Total -- I hadn't heard that but that's exactly what I was thinking.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-29250975699339920052009-06-10T23:55:10.844+01:002009-06-10T23:55:10.844+01:00MR, from what I heard, the Gestapo Geezer was pack...MR, from what I heard, the Gestapo Geezer was packing a sawed-off shotgun. That makes plenty of sense how he could have easily concealed it, like you said.Totalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-33169466345203848002009-06-10T23:22:22.463+01:002009-06-10T23:22:22.463+01:00By the way, for anyone who's interested, Rob T...By the way, for anyone who's interested, Rob Taylor, just did another post on <a href="http://www.red-alerts.com/homeland-security/james-von-brunn-wasnt-a-right-wing-extremist/#comments" rel="nofollow">James Von Brunn</a>Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-41959654873480580702009-06-10T23:17:02.407+01:002009-06-10T23:17:02.407+01:00Pastorius,
You wrote,
---------------------------...Pastorius,<br /><br />You wrote,<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />I think the Red Alerts post is worthwhile considering in the sense that the anti-Semitism of Wright and Stormfront types are linked ideologically.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Its important largely because most people either fail to see it or don't have the guts to point it out. Many people will insists that blacks can't be racists because they don't have the power. But racism is still racism, and irrational hatred is still irrational hatred, even if the person with such feelings has no ability to get what he wants. Racism is an attitude, and black bigotry is just as morally repulsive as white bigotry. <br /><br />you wrote,<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />However, I think it is unreasonable to believe a Stormfronter is taking his orders from Jeremiah Wright.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />You are correct, that is very unlikely, in large part because Storm Front is a white supremacist organization, and Wright is a black man. People in Storm Front not only want another holocaust, but would probably also support putting black people, including Wright, back in chains. It would be strange, indeed if they were taking orders from him. <br /><br />you wrote,<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />If this did happen to be the case, then such an alliance would portend horrible things for the future of this country.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I would have to agree, if the Rev. wright and Nazis joined forces it would not hold well for the future of this country.<br /><br />you wrote,<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />However, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that such an alliance has been formed.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Which means that most likely there is not one.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-56548466602625486602009-06-10T23:05:52.562+01:002009-06-10T23:05:52.562+01:00Epa is so apoplectic he is going all Airplane on u...Epa is so apoplectic he is going all Airplane on us.<br /><br />;-)Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-19598027313864850612009-06-10T23:02:27.858+01:002009-06-10T23:02:27.858+01:00Always On Watch,
You wrote,
---------------------...Always On Watch,<br /><br />You wrote,<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />On Stormfront's site, Von Brunn is listed as a hero.<br /><br />Stormfront!!!<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I'm not surprised, neither should you or anyone else be. Storm Front honoring him, is like Jihadists honoring Osama Bin Ladin. He's their ideal man, a racist, antisemitic nut job, who puts his rage and hatred into violent action.Damienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02691850040385670009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-62823692629689472512009-06-10T22:50:46.122+01:002009-06-10T22:50:46.122+01:00Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing gl...Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue<br /><br />It's just another scumbag ultra right schmendrick with a gun, and we all have to realize that all the morons of the left, right, LaRouchian, conspiracy, ZOG, white hating black hating jew hating christian hating pope hating ..<br /><br />ARE<br />IDENTICAL<br /><br />They have nothing to do with politics<br /><br />They are outside the system of thought and are triggered by anything from a repo notice to flatulence<br /><br />Wright in self identifying, and almost makes the grade. But he's smarter. It's about money and power for him. His racism is utilitarian as WELL AS SICKEpaminondashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04811906954763827459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-27298004470518629002009-06-10T22:30:03.255+01:002009-06-10T22:30:03.255+01:00MR,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not thin...MR,<br />Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think it was our Founding Father's intention that convicted felons should own guns.<br /><br />And, even if that were the case, do you think it's a good idea?Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-2289638893514265692009-06-10T22:26:53.248+01:002009-06-10T22:26:53.248+01:00This screen shot, of a page from Stormfront, is ev...This screen shot, of a page from Stormfront, is evidence that, if such an alliance had already been formed, the members of Stormfront are not in on it.<br /><br />http://mountainsageblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/comments-on-stormfront.pngPastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-45122075481520834612009-06-10T22:22:42.457+01:002009-06-10T22:22:42.457+01:00I think the Red Alerts post is worthwhile consider...I think the Red Alerts post is worthwhile considering in the sense that the anti-Semitism of Wright and Stormfront types are linked ideologically. <br /><br />However, I think it is unreasonable to believe a Stormfronter is taking his orders from Jeremiah Wright.<br /><br />If this did happen to be the case, then such an alliance would portend horrible things for the future of this country.<br /><br />However, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that such an alliance has been formed.Pastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-11073869313322783392009-06-10T22:18:10.929+01:002009-06-10T22:18:10.929+01:00Article just published by the Examiner. Worth a r...<a href="http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m6d10-Holocaust-Museum-shooter-von-Brunn-a-911-truther-who-hated-neocons-Bush-McCain" rel="nofollow">Article</a> just published by the <i>Examiner</i>. Worth a read.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-64780887898456638132009-06-10T22:12:48.007+01:002009-06-10T22:12:48.007+01:00A possible associate with the message board at Fre...A <a href="http://mountainsageblog.com/2009/06/10/update-holocaust-museum-shooter-a-decorated-war-veteran-and-white-supremacist-screen-shots-of-his-web-page/" rel="nofollow">possible associate</a> with the message board at <i>Free Republic</i>?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-79350561898684789872009-06-10T22:10:28.662+01:002009-06-10T22:10:28.662+01:00Depending on how old the gun was, the type and whe...Depending on how old the gun was, the type and where he bought it, a private party to private party sale requires no background check or documentation which, this incident aside, is what the Founders had in mind and is as it should be.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-44414350517173098912009-06-10T22:06:55.859+01:002009-06-10T22:06:55.859+01:00Von Brunn was a convicted felon. He had served 6....Von Brunn was a convicted felon. He had served 6.5 years for a crime he committed back in 1981.<br /><br />So, how did he legally have a firearm???Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-9004621136486138902009-06-10T22:02:20.681+01:002009-06-10T22:02:20.681+01:00The guard was has died is black. I just found his...The guard was has died is black. I just found his picture on the web -- at MSNBC or CNN.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-58641529530618202272009-06-10T22:01:30.634+01:002009-06-10T22:01:30.634+01:00And if he was dressed as a reenactor most people w...And if he was dressed as a reenactor most people would have thought little of it until too late.midnight riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18438029111428393889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-63843018948837114442009-06-10T21:51:45.716+01:002009-06-10T21:51:45.716+01:00MR,
The museum has those electronic screens to wal...MR,<br />The museum has those electronic screens to walk through. I don't recall how close the screens are to the door.<br /><br />Von Brunn might have been able to stand on the outside of the screen and fire inward.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19209018.post-84334505464607734582009-06-10T21:50:12.274+01:002009-06-10T21:50:12.274+01:00Excerpt from this article at Belief Net:
James W....Excerpt from <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/2009/06/james-w-von-brunn-identified-a.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> at <i>Belief Net</i>:<br /><br /><i>James W. von Brunn is not only a bitter old white supremacist; he is also a member of Mensa and a decorated veteran who served as a PT boat captain during World War II. These facts will raise at least two different and equally important issues.<br /><br />First, the identity of the shooter in today's attack will no doubt frustrate <b>the hate-filled and fear-driven voices which have filled the internet this afternoon, voices which were already explaining how we could "know" that this was the work of Muslims. Some went so far as to blame President Obama and his speech in Cairo for inviting such an attack by Muslims empowered to take revenge on America and upon Jews.</b> I wish I was kidding or even exaggerating, but I am not.<br /><br />Second, this will unsettle all those who blithely assume that ethnic, religious or racial hatred is the domain strictly of stupid or unaccomplished people. While contrary to fifty years ago, the social acceptability of expressing such hatreds tends to limit itself to the lower echelons of society, the challenge is present at all levels of our culture. To be sure, it is nowhere near as common as it once was, but neither is it something to be ignored....</i><br /><br />I heard similar words on FNC a few minutes ago.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.com