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Saturday, April 23, 2011
Terry Jones judged wrong kind of Christian
More about the judge in the Terry Jones/Dearborn, Michigan mosque case:
This post is in large part about a seemingly activist dhimmi judge who is part of a Methodist church, which church I can hardly speak on. Further info is much appreciated.
Thomas Moore lawyers are tops, in my book. If the ACLU is the best one can do, the case is lost even if they win in court. They seem to love involving themselves in cases only to disparage their clients.
T.M. lawyers take on good cases and do a good job.
I hope this case will expose not only the clique of dhimmis in Dearborn but will also open up the case to examination of the dhimmi churches involved in promoting Shari'a. It's no mistake that a so-called mainstream church like the Methodists would be involved in some dirty game like this.
I don't follow that aspect closely enough to be able to inform properly. I'm sure many can, and I hope some will take up the challenge.
Overall, so what if the ACLU doesn't like Terry Jones, or agree with his actions? If they take his side, and they win, it won't just be a victory for the anti Jihad movement, but a victory for free speech in general.
I wouldn't do a background check on someone offering to help me fix my car in a rainstorm. I'd be happy for any help I could get in a tight spot. But if I had a choice, I would prefer not to have the help of someone like the ACLU who would turn around and tell the world they are helping me only because I'm a scum-bag and they are doing the world a favour by being nice to me. "Yes, Jones is a bigot, but we are above all that, working only to preserve free speech." Well, OK, if I am desperate for help anything is welcome.
This is completely beside the point.Terry jones his religion is not on trial here.It's freedom of expression who's on trial.As they say they have designated 'free speech zones in dearborn"since when comes free speech in designated zones? I'm pretty sure no Roman catholic would be allowed to speak in front of the Mosque in dearborn!Freespeech is on trial for the whole of America cause any judgment in dearborn will be used as a precedent! It has to stop here and now or else freespeech is dead!
What I see in the story as I've covered it at the link above is that this is a local matter of some in-group of middle aged arrivistes who feel they are truly important in the community at this time. I look at them as people who were probably unpopular in highschool but who have now, in their 50s, come into their own as "the in crowd." This is the classical echo chamber of people hearing themselves speak and liking the sound. The rest of the community, those who haven't penetrated their circle, just make noise.
I see this because I look at the religious people involved, each group patting the other on the back over their liberal attitudes, congratulating each other, and condemning Jones as a "hick" who doesn't order in French at Chez Pierre. These are big frogs in the small pond of Dearborn, pretty satisfied with themselves. Every town has its power-brokers and back-room boys pulling this kind of bullshit on outsiders. Some go for real estate deals, others go for political influence, but groups like this are into something no matter where or who. This lot are going to be exposed now because of Jones' legitimate concerns. They transcend Dearborn's fraternity of cool-kids running the city. This is America, not a playground for local sleazies pushing their weight around. Not any more. That game is over now.
Bet my last dollar you don't know about the eugenics movement and its USAID government backers promoting, funding, and implementing genocide against Third World populations and against the native working class. Bet you think abortion is something women choose, rather than something forced on them in, for example, African villages where they are subject to death by leftard intervention.
Bet you don't really care about that. Bet you have no clue about what abortion campaigns are about but that you're sure you're for it. Bet you are a mindless conformist who has no clear idea about anything but that you are adamant that you and right and those who disagree with you are wrong.
But that's me guessing. You can change my opinion here.
CJK, please accept my apologies: I misread your comment, and to the point it has stayed with me all day. As it is, I was responding to someone else and got you mixed up. I looked at the key-words and automatically assumed I was back with a leftard I've been trying to shake for days. Anger makes me stupid. I'm sorry.
This post is in large part about a seemingly activist dhimmi judge who is part of a Methodist church, which church I can hardly speak on. Further info is much appreciated.
ReplyDeleteI AM asked - Is. 59- paraphrase-
ReplyDelete"what are you doing about un-just judges and the shedding of innocent blood..."
No thing ever changes--
I believe Thomas Moore Law is involved in at least on case mentioned in the link...
C-CS
Thomas Moore lawyers are tops, in my book. If the ACLU is the best one can do, the case is lost even if they win in court. They seem to love involving themselves in cases only to disparage their clients.
ReplyDeleteT.M. lawyers take on good cases and do a good job.
I hope this case will expose not only the clique of dhimmis in Dearborn but will also open up the case to examination of the dhimmi churches involved in promoting Shari'a. It's no mistake that a so-called mainstream church like the Methodists would be involved in some dirty game like this.
I don't follow that aspect closely enough to be able to inform properly. I'm sure many can, and I hope some will take up the challenge.
Dag,
ReplyDeleteOverall, so what if the ACLU doesn't like Terry Jones, or agree with his actions? If they take his side, and they win, it won't just be a victory for the anti Jihad movement, but a victory for free speech in general.
I wouldn't do a background check on someone offering to help me fix my car in a rainstorm. I'd be happy for any help I could get in a tight spot. But if I had a choice, I would prefer not to have the help of someone like the ACLU who would turn around and tell the world they are helping me only because I'm a scum-bag and they are doing the world a favour by being nice to me. "Yes, Jones is a bigot, but we are above all that, working only to preserve free speech." Well, OK, if I am desperate for help anything is welcome.
ReplyDeleteThis is completely beside the point.Terry jones his religion is not on trial here.It's freedom of expression who's on trial.As they say they have designated 'free speech zones in dearborn"since when comes free speech in designated zones? I'm pretty sure no Roman catholic would be allowed to speak in front of the Mosque in dearborn!Freespeech is on trial for the whole of America cause any judgment in dearborn will be used as a precedent! It has to stop here and now or else freespeech is dead!
ReplyDeleteWhat I see in the story as I've covered it at the link above is that this is a local matter of some in-group of middle aged arrivistes who feel they are truly important in the community at this time. I look at them as people who were probably unpopular in highschool but who have now, in their 50s, come into their own as "the in crowd." This is the classical echo chamber of people hearing themselves speak and liking the sound. The rest of the community, those who haven't penetrated their circle, just make noise.
ReplyDeleteI see this because I look at the religious people involved, each group patting the other on the back over their liberal attitudes, congratulating each other, and condemning Jones as a "hick" who doesn't order in French at Chez Pierre. These are big frogs in the small pond of Dearborn, pretty satisfied with themselves. Every town has its power-brokers and back-room boys pulling this kind of bullshit on outsiders. Some go for real estate deals, others go for political influence, but groups like this are into something no matter where or who. This lot are going to be exposed now because of Jones' legitimate concerns. They transcend Dearborn's fraternity of cool-kids running the city. This is America, not a playground for local sleazies pushing their weight around. Not any more. That game is over now.
10-1 that all his righteous criticizers are pro-abortion.
ReplyDeleteBet my last dollar you don't know about the eugenics movement and its USAID government backers promoting, funding, and implementing genocide against Third World populations and against the native working class. Bet you think abortion is something women choose, rather than something forced on them in, for example, African villages where they are subject to death by leftard intervention.
ReplyDeleteBet you don't really care about that. Bet you have no clue about what abortion campaigns are about but that you're sure you're for it. Bet you are a mindless conformist who has no clear idea about anything but that you are adamant that you and right and those who disagree with you are wrong.
But that's me guessing. You can change my opinion here.
Actually I do know something about those subjects and still think abortion is murder.
ReplyDeleteCJK, please accept my apologies: I misread your comment, and to the point it has stayed with me all day. As it is, I was responding to someone else and got you mixed up. I looked at the key-words and automatically assumed I was back with a leftard I've been trying to shake for days. Anger makes me stupid. I'm sorry.
ReplyDeleteI was a little perplexed because we seemed to be on the same side there.
ReplyDeleteThanks for explaining.
I got confused between two comments at two different blogs in my inbox, and I responded to you thinking you were the fellow on the other.
ReplyDeleteThere is an excuse for this on my part, but everyone has excuses, and they really don't mean much the next day. I'm old enough to know better.
I think I should take a day off and spare the world from my self. Thanks for response.
Dag.