“I think those passengers have the potential to still being alive. And I believe that airplane landed. I believe the airplane has landed and I’ve listened to a lot of aviation experts and none of them know anything about radical Islam. And I think that was one of the major shortcomings to think that as well planned as this was, and you just went through it with Mr. Kay, on how the transponder was turned off, they said goodnight, ACARS went off transponder. Take the line from the last transponder hit and then take the line from the Thai radar skin paint and draw that line. And see where it goes. It heads straight for India.”
Malaysia Asks US & Kazakhstan for Assistance in Search for Flight MH370
The Strait Times reported:
Search efforts for the missing MH370 plane are continuing as Malaysia asks for more help, said Malaysia’s Acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein on Friday.He will be speaking to US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel on Friday night on deploying more assets for the search and rescue operations, Mr Hishammuddin said at a daily press briefing.Malaysia is also obtaining help from French experts who recovered the black box of Air France Flight 447 after two years, said Mr Hishammuddin, who is also Defence Minister.“Malaysia is still awaiting information on whether the debris spotted in the Indian Ocean are linked to MH370,” he said.Japan is sending two aircraft to Perth to assist in the search in the southern Indian Ocean while China is sending five ships and three ship-borne helicopters to the southern corridor.Malaysia is awaiting confirmation on whether Kazakhstan can be used as a staging point for future investigations but Kazakhstan has said it has not found any trace of MH370, he added.
Meanwhile a whole bunch of people are looking for the plane over in Australia, which is in the complete opposite direction.
WTF?
Until Boeing or mcinerny reveal supporting facts, all leads need to be followed up - by our standards of reasoning.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, since Islam/jihad is the suspected foe involved in this plane's disappearance, the waste of effort/time/funding/resources/human treasure involved in perpetuating red herring leads is all part of the jihad.
Given McInerny's shocking revelation:
"I’ve listened to a lot of aviation experts and none of them know anything about radical Islam."
Only reinforces the nagging suspicion that elements within our own administration assist with the perpetuation of multiple red herrings which not only aid the jihad but distract from the glaring incompetence and multiple scandals plaguing this administration = alba never let a crisis go to waste.
Aircraft distress beacons do not function under water
ReplyDeleteJust a clarification. The first anon comment was mine.
ReplyDeleteNicoenarg
I agree with both Anon comments.
ReplyDeleteI do believe people in the Administration are involved in perpetuating red herrings. I would not be surprised if the Australia search is a red herring. At the very least, I think it is based upon a mistaken notion.
The plane did not turn towards Australia. It turned towards the Indian Ocean/Pakistan and then followed the route "between way points" that is usually used for travel to the Middle East.
How would it have ended up near Australia.
That's absurd.
The theory about smoke/fire makes ABSOLUTELY no sense whatsoever, unless we're talking about rookies who didn't know the first thing about 777s.
ReplyDeleteI have been to a 777 cockpit countless times. The oxygen masks go on the face (to protect you from smoke and lack of oxygen) faster than you can put on your glasses. Its designed that way. You pinch these clips on the mask, put the thing on your face and you're good to go.
Putting on the oxygen mask is the first thing on the checklist. Turning off transponders is NOT on the checklist. "Mayday" call is necessary when there's a fire/smoke that can't be contained or whose source is not known and it is getting worse.
Problem with all these theories is that no one is thinking about this with their head on right. Some pilots don't want to accept that a fellow pilot, a captain at that, may have had ill intentions because of the culture at airlines. You don't just fly solo every day, you fly and put your trust in the guy sitting to your left or right. For pilots, if they can't even trust fellow pilots then its game over. Hence some pilots are not willing to accept that the pilots on this flight had bad intentions.
There are other pilots who are dumbfounded by the theories being floated around. Smoke thing makes no sense like I said. And on top of that, planes don't keep flying for 7 and a half hours while on fire.
CNN is floating a theory calling it a "zombie plane". CNN is a bunch of dumb idiots with no sense whatsoever. According to them, the smoke may have been so thick that it killed everyone on board within 30 minutes...and then it kept flying for no goddamn reason for another 7 hours...on autopilot. My question is...WTF were the pilots doing in this scenario when they couldn't breathe because of thick smoke? Thinking to themselves, "hey lets see how long we can hold our breaths for?"
They is so frustrating its not even funny.
"They is so frustrating its not even funny." Haha, yeah they is!
ReplyDeleteI meant to say "This is so frustrating..."
Oh and you don't have to turn on the oxygen mask or anything, the thing is designed so when the clips are pinched, and the mask is pulled out, oxygen starts flowing automatically.
ReplyDeleteNico,
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you're willing to share your expertise with us on this subject. I know nothing about flying.
My understanding of the "zombie plane" scenario is it is something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
As far as the electrical fire theory, I am under the understanding they mean the fire was not burning in the cabin but had disabled systems to the point where communications were lost and perhaps autopilot went haywire and could not be overrided.
Is that not possible?
"overridded" = Overridden.
ReplyDeletePasto, the Wiki link that you provided would be unrelated here since the oxygen masks on 777s are extremely advanced. I'm unfamiliar with Learjet 35 though. But the wiki article says people died of hypoxia. Couldn't (as in its impossible) have happened on the 777, at least in the cockpit.
ReplyDeleteI say "at least" because it is possible that "some" masks don't deploy in the cabin for passengers and flight attendants because of whatever reason. But the oxygen masks in the cockpit never fail. And if the two main ones fail (for whatever reason), there are two extra ones. It takes a while for hypoxia to set in. Sudden lack of oxygen doesn't just knock people out.
We had to hold our breath for out training and think about getting out of situations while holding our breaths. You have A LOT of time to think and do what you need to do.
And like I said, the oxygen masks for pilots take about a second to put on.
As for the second scenario, I will ask a friend of mine who is a 777 flight crew trainer and see what he thinks. He lives in Dubai so it may take a while for me to get an answer.
Just spoke with another pilot (not the trainer) and he's floating the "hijacked and landed for a later attack" theory as well. Why? Because nothing else makes sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised no one's mentioning Somalia. Its actually a straight shot...left turn and you're there.
ReplyDeleteNico,
ReplyDeleteI agree with your pilot friend: "Nothing else makes sense."
Epa has mentioned Somalia. I think Epa thinks it's in Somalia.
I think it's in Pakistan, because of the nukes.
More on nukes:
ReplyDeleteIran and Pakistan share a very large border:
http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ac76fef2cf711f0e8ab569213ac3f04f?convert_to_webp=true
My working theory has been, from the beginning, that this is too big an operation to have tried to pull off unless the pay-off was very very big.
ReplyDeleteLike, for instance, Nuking Israel.
Jihadists are not too stupid to do cost/benefit analysis.
ReplyDeleteAnd the media circus with simultaneous reports which contradict details:
ReplyDeleteMissing MH370: Plane carried batteries as cargo, nothing unusual, says MAS chief
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Missing jet WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries: CEO of Malaysian Airlines
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March 14, 2014:
PRBA - The Rechargeable Battery Association Statement on Malaysian Air Flight MH370
Begs the question . . .how much does this contradiction about the safety of the batteries in cargo have anything to do with the insurance payout?
ReplyDeletere: Insurance payments made for missing 777
BTW, If McInerny is correct and refitting of this 777 is taking place in Pakistan - then May 1st/2nd may be the date for it's next takeoff/destination. Anniversary of Bin Laden assassination inside of Pakistan.
ReplyDeleteDr Jeremy Bernstein's book, "Nuclear Weapons" tells us all nuclear equipped countries except Pakinstan and possibly North Korea, use PALs - Permissive Action Links that makes it impossible to detonate any of their nuclear weapons without inputting the launch code.
ReplyDeleteThe 100 or so Pakinstani bombs are not equipped as Dr Bernstein said, which means: anyone possessing Pakistani bombs, can detonate those bombs.
Sleep well.
"planes don't keep flying for 7 and a half hours while on fire."
ReplyDeleteEND OF STORY.
Ignoring the final (I thought) KNOWN turn to the NW, for this to be a Helios Air FLight 522 ghost flight, we would have ot have had a small fire DISABLE the xponder, and allow the pilots to think all was okay, then program the flight management system (in a fire emergency?), then change altitude, then turn, then the crew is dead along with the people, then the fire goes out, then the plane flies south until fuel is gone.
Now air accidents are almost always a chain of exceedingly low probability events and a few uninformed decisions, but this one seems like facts HAVE to be ignored to complete this sequence.
As for Somalia, well I think the plane has the theoretical range but how much fuel it carried is unknown.
Do we know we WOULD know if an old ww2 field was lengthened/strengthened anywhere in the world?
Can we eliminate the possibility that several ON DUTY military radar personnel in nations in the path of the flight reported nothing, and were prepared to arrange records to match?
If this pane is not at the bottom of the ocean, this is a terror attack, and this KIND of aircraft was chosen (rather than buying some 727) for its range, reliability and ability to appear innocent.
I seriously doubt this plane is at the bottom of the ocean.
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