From Will at THE OTHER NEWS:
Interfaith Dialog 101 - Muslims and Evangelicals seek common ground
Pastor Bob Roberts is a committed evangelical Christian, a barbeque-loving Texan, and head of a large conservative congregation just outside Dallas with an essential mission to plant new churches around the world.
So he’s the first to say that it’s sort of odd that his 30-year journey as an evangelical minister would lead him to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with some of the most prominent Muslim clerics in the world. He prays with them in their mosques, “breaks bread” with them, Texas-style, at his home, and has become one of the leading Christian ministers of any persuasion in what he calls the fight against Islamophobia.
“I never dreamed I’d ever do anything like that – I had no desire to,” says Pastor Roberts, head of the 3,000-member NorthWood Church in Keller. On Monday, he traveled to the White House with other religious leaders to be briefed on the situation of Christians in Iran and the recent nuclear deal. “You have to understand my background and how we view things like that... But right now the biggest challenge in fighting Islamophobia is my tribe – the Evangelicals.”
last week, Roberts joined Hassan’s organization and other Muslim advocacy groups to speak out sharply against the recent words of Franklin Graham, son of the evangelistic icon Billy Graham. On his Facebook page, the second-generation evangelist responded to the attacks on the nation’s military in Chattanooga, writing: “We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled.”
At a press conference on July 23, Roberts expressed “disappointment” with Reverend Graham’s words, saying that religious freedom should be a value Americans fight for both locally and globally. “Standing up for the rights for Muslims to Worship impacts the rights of Christian to worship around the world, as well,” he said.
But Roberts had another reason to speak out. Three weeks ago, he traveled to Doha, Qatar, after helping to organize a meeting between Christian pastors and Muslim clerics. At the meeting, five American imams and five American pastors joined together with local Muslim clerics and seven Pakistani Christian ministers. They discussed the enmity that often exists between their faiths, and what they could do.
At the end of the meeting, these ministers made a pact: “We agreed that we would watch out for the Muslim minority here and deal with Islamophobia, and they said they would watch out for the Christian minority there. And so, that’s where the Franklin Graham statement came from. We had to respond to it.”Hmmmm......"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase most likely spoken by David Hannum, in criticism of both P. T. Barnum and his customers..
Read the full 'story' here.
UPDATE --- Anonymous comments:
How can anyone trust a 'committed evangelical Christian minister' whose reading comprehension skills are clearly lacking based on his 'interfaith dialog' ignorance/lack of integrity/dhimmitude?
Texas and the United States does not have the humiliating literacy problems endemic to all Islamic societies. Parishioners have no excuse for accepting the nonsense dished out at these one sided 'interfaith dialogs' created by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Stephen Coughlin is a lawyer and former Joint Chiefs of Staff intelligence analyst and one of the foremost experts on Islamic law in the United States. For years he was well-known inside the Beltway for his “Red Pill” briefings of military commanders and defense officials on the topics of jihad and sharia.
Stephen Coughlin's Red Pill Brief #2 characterizes these 'interfaith dialogs' as 'INTERFAITH DELUSIONS' and with good reason.
In his second red pill brief, Coughlin references a book titled "Interfaith dialog, a guide for Muslims" by Muhammad Shafiq & Mohammed Abu Nimer who are closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood in America. The book is put out by the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT)which IS the Muslim Brotherhood.
Go watch all ten of these Red Pill Briefs....very enlightening.
Continue with bible study and enlighten any misguided pastors, priests, ministers, rabbis, clergy to the deceptions presented at these 'interfaith delusions'.
So he’s the first to say that it’s sort of odd that his 30-year journey as an evangelical minister would lead him to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with some of the most prominent Muslim clerics in the world. He prays with them in their mosques, “breaks bread” with them, Texas-style, at his home, and has become one of the leading Christian ministers of any persuasion in what he calls the fight against Islamophobia.
“I never dreamed I’d ever do anything like that – I had no desire to,” says Pastor Roberts, head of the 3,000-member NorthWood Church in Keller. On Monday, he traveled to the White House with other religious leaders to be briefed on the situation of Christians in Iran and the recent nuclear deal. “You have to understand my background and how we view things like that... But right now the biggest challenge in fighting Islamophobia is my tribe – the Evangelicals.”
last week, Roberts joined Hassan’s organization and other Muslim advocacy groups to speak out sharply against the recent words of Franklin Graham, son of the evangelistic icon Billy Graham. On his Facebook page, the second-generation evangelist responded to the attacks on the nation’s military in Chattanooga, writing: “We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled.”
At a press conference on July 23, Roberts expressed “disappointment” with Reverend Graham’s words, saying that religious freedom should be a value Americans fight for both locally and globally. “Standing up for the rights for Muslims to Worship impacts the rights of Christian to worship around the world, as well,” he said.
But Roberts had another reason to speak out. Three weeks ago, he traveled to Doha, Qatar, after helping to organize a meeting between Christian pastors and Muslim clerics. At the meeting, five American imams and five American pastors joined together with local Muslim clerics and seven Pakistani Christian ministers. They discussed the enmity that often exists between their faiths, and what they could do.
At the end of the meeting, these ministers made a pact: “We agreed that we would watch out for the Muslim minority here and deal with Islamophobia, and they said they would watch out for the Christian minority there. And so, that’s where the Franklin Graham statement came from. We had to respond to it.”Hmmmm......"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase most likely spoken by David Hannum, in criticism of both P. T. Barnum and his customers..
Read the full 'story' here.
UPDATE --- Anonymous comments:
How can anyone trust a 'committed evangelical Christian minister' whose reading comprehension skills are clearly lacking based on his 'interfaith dialog' ignorance/lack of integrity/dhimmitude?
Texas and the United States does not have the humiliating literacy problems endemic to all Islamic societies. Parishioners have no excuse for accepting the nonsense dished out at these one sided 'interfaith dialogs' created by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Stephen Coughlin is a lawyer and former Joint Chiefs of Staff intelligence analyst and one of the foremost experts on Islamic law in the United States. For years he was well-known inside the Beltway for his “Red Pill” briefings of military commanders and defense officials on the topics of jihad and sharia.
Stephen Coughlin's Red Pill Brief #2 characterizes these 'interfaith dialogs' as 'INTERFAITH DELUSIONS' and with good reason.
In his second red pill brief, Coughlin references a book titled "Interfaith dialog, a guide for Muslims" by Muhammad Shafiq & Mohammed Abu Nimer who are closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood in America. The book is put out by the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT)which IS the Muslim Brotherhood.
Go watch all ten of these Red Pill Briefs....very enlightening.
Continue with bible study and enlighten any misguided pastors, priests, ministers, rabbis, clergy to the deceptions presented at these 'interfaith delusions'.
The primary Koranic verse sanctioning deception vis-à-vis non-Muslims states: "Let believers [Muslims] not take for friends and allies infidels [non-Muslims] instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah — unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions" (3:28; other verses referenced by the ulema in support of taqiyya include 2:173, 2:185, 4:29, 16:106, 22:78, 40:28).
ReplyDeleteAl-Tabari's (d. 923) famous tafsir (exegesis of the Koran) is a standard and authoritative reference work in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he writes: "If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them. … Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers — except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them."
Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir (d. 1373, second in authority only to Tabari) writes, "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil may protect himself through outward show." As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's close companion, Abu Darda, who said, "Let us smile to the face of some people [non-Muslims] while our hearts curse them"; another companion, al-Hassan, said, "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity]."
How can anyone trust a 'committed evangelical Christian minister' whose reading comprehension skills are clearly lacking based on his 'interfaith dialog' ignorance/lack of integrity/dhimmitude?
ReplyDeleteTexas and the United States does not have the humiliating literacy problems endemic to all Islamic societies. Parishioners have no excuse for accepting the nonsense dished out at these one sided 'interfaith dialogs' created by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Stephen Coughlin is a lawyer and former Joint Chiefs of Staff intelligence analyst and one of the foremost experts on Islamic law in the United States. For years he was well-known inside the Beltway for his “Red Pill” briefings of military commanders and defense officials on the topics of jihad and sharia.
Stephen Coughlin's Red Pill Brief #2 characterizes these 'interfaith dialogs' as 'INTERFAITH DELUSIONS' and with good reason.
In his second red pill brief, Coughlin references a book titled "Interfaith dialog, a guide for Muslims" by Muhammad Shafiq & Mohammed Abu Nimer who are closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood in America. The book is put out by the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT)which IS the Muslim Brotherhood.
Go watch all ten of these Red Pill Briefs....very enlightening.
Continue with bible study and enlighten any misguided pastors, priests, ministers, rabbis, clergy to the deceptions presented at these 'interfaith delusions'.
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ReplyDeleteAllen West is reporting that the DOD is pressing charges against one of the sailors who shot the Chattanooga terrorist - since he wasn't allowed to have a gun at the recruiting center!
Just take a look at the moronic expression in the good pastor's face. He's ecstatic at the role he believes he is playing ... While in reality, he is leading his flock to extermination ...
ReplyDeleteHe prays with them in their mosques
ReplyDeleteWhich entity is he praying to?
This church is well-known for "inter-faith" dialogue.
ReplyDeleteOn the image you are using, Imam Zia is on the left. He is the imam of the Esters Road Masjid in Irving, Texas. Naturally, I have met him. At an event at his facility, I sat with a former ambassador from Pakistan. Imam Zia is in the mix of things on national level in the U.S. He is also one of four members of the Islamic Tribunal, a jurisprudential body which is at work in the Dallas Fort Worth Area.
There is the background. And here is my statement: The religions are neither interfaith nor compatible on any scale.
Christianity teaches human liberty. Islam teaches subservience. Do I have Muslim friends? Yes. Do I consider us part of the same "branch of Abraham". Nope.
The Last English Prince
In his own right, Imam Zia continues to make the mad scramble to the top.
ReplyDelete*Note that in the picture, Imam Zia looks like a Mini-Me of the Pastor. Both, appear to be wearing the traditional Pakistani garb.
I have been given so many scarves as gifts that I could make a scarf skirt. But will I cover? Absolutely not!
Rick Warren? He might as well have been a Hindu praying to a pantheon of gods in the first inaugural prayer. He prayed to Jesus, "Hesus" (Hispanic pronunciation) and Isa - who, by the way, is not the Son of God - rather a Qur'anic avatar. A fellow journalist and I were talking back and forth during the prayer and she quipped, "Hey! Did Rick just pray in the name of my Mexican gardener?" We thought it was hilarious, profane, and a comedy of errors.
There are multiple players on multiple layers in the Dallas Fort Worth area. I know a few of the primary one in this gaming industry. But yes, the Pastor in question may be a darling of the bankrupt Left.
The rest of us - will resist the concept of same god, same religion. I have a Liberator. From that, I cannot walk away.
The Last English Prince
So, you have no evidence to back up my suspicion that the Pastor is just a Political Ladder Climber?
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