All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.
The execution of Saddam before the end of the Anfal trial is the most recent betrayal of the Kurdish people by the US, supplanting the Baker-Hamilton report by what? A week?
You know, I have a rule for myself to be polite, but I really am sick of it. I swear to God, I'm getting to where I think we should just take over all their fucking countries and enslave them all, because they act like animals no matter how much we try to help.
Obviously, the Kurdish people have been much better for the most part, than the other Muslims, but there is very little in the way of gratitude that ever emanates from the Muslim heart.
We've spent thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars, and this guy is mad at us.
By the way, I would suggest to our friend, Mizgin that he go watch that video which is just down our page. It's called Open Season.
That's pretty much how we feel about you guys now, my friend. Understand that we are getting really fed up with your demands and your bullshit.
We Americans have always believed that you can help bring people along and help them create a better world for themselves, but you Muslims have really pushed us to the brink.
We are a very dangerous People when we are really angry, so fucking watch it. And, tell all your friends too.
I have to admit the “hand wringing” by the New York Times and other MSM outlets as well as sundry European effete political leaders was getting to me. I said to my wife I wished they did it sooner just so I don’t have to hear all the bleeding hearts and the incessant wallowing in unnecessary doubt. Have all the people gone mad? How can anyone turn Saddam into a cause celibre?
Just quote the Gov of California "Hasta La Vista, Baby" and do it! It's done.
At least the Italians hung Mussolini and his mistress on meat hooks from a lamp post. And the Romanians were able to put bullets into the heads of Mr. and Mrs. Ceaucescu.
We couldn't execute Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, or Khomeini. And Chavez is currently out of reach.
But at least the Iraqis got to hang Saddam. It doesn't seem right to make a toast or celebrate. I celebrate births, not deaths. But damn it, it does feel JUST and PROPER to see a thug get his just desserts in the end. There is no joy in shooting a mad dog. But there is a calm satisfaction in seeing what had to be done, done. To have, at least for one bright, shining moment, a necessary, ugly thing done to keep this beast from ever having the hope of either finnegaling some exile like Idi Amin got, or worse, a return to power.
Whatever the future of the Iraqi Provisional Government, at least they have the accomplishment of killing the bastard.
p.s.: may Ahmadinejad sleep a little less snugly tonight, thinking that hey, maybe those "sons of pigs and dogs" might have some resolve to see things through, after all...
At this moment the MSM is alternating between hand-wringing over whether to show any pictures of the execution and interviewing some imam from Dearbornistan. At least the imam was happy about it, which puts him ahead of most of the Leftards for the time being.
The question is not that Saddam dies, but when and how.
It should have been after the other trials and the best place for his execution would have been downtown Helebçe. There, Kurdish women could have cut him into fishbait with knives, like they did to the Ba'athi in Silêmanî, after they were thrown off the top of the Security Directorate in 1991.
THAT would have been justice.
The most interesting thing about the Anfal trial occurred last week, when evidence of Turkey's complicity in the Anfal campaign came to light in Ba'athi army documents from the time. The court microphones were turned off and then the evidence was discussed. It serves the US to protect its Turkish NATO ally. . . for many reasons.
Remember, not a single American has died in Kurdistan and one day you will want help with Iran. You've already been begging PKK for help.
On the other hand, maybe Turkey will help you. Turkey has such a good relationship with Iran these days.
Yes, I was worried about his being sprung. There were even some commentators who wanted him exiled to Tunisia ... like Arafat once was. We know what happened after that. And as I said elsewhere, I could easily see him living out his life in Paris like many an African dictator. It’s a relief that he is gone with certainty.
I actually thought he would be killed trying to "escape" and save everyone the uncertainty of a prolonged process.
Helebçe, as a small portion of the Anfal campaign, lasted 72 hours. Anfal lasted a year and a half. Others were complicit in the crimes of Anfal.
My opinion is fairly representative of Kurdish opinion in South Kurdistan, as well as in all the other parts of occupied Kurdistan. Nijmaldin Karim is another example of this opinion. From that example you can see that the Anfal trial does far more than serving the purpose of assuaging my feelings.
Of course, it is impossible for you to understand this.
The object of a trial is not to convince a perpetrator that he is wrong. We do not care if Saddam believed he was right or wrong. It is irrelevant.
As for the possibility of Saddam's escaping, I have never heard such a thing suggested by anyone . . . until now.
Good luck with Turkey on that Iran thing. You're going to need it. The Ankara regime has been very tight with the mullahs since mid-2003.
Mizgin, You may not have heard of the possibility, but the fact remains, that it was there. In fact, a major American media outlet recently proposed that we would be better off with Hussein back in power.
People lose will.
It is better that he is dead.
We amd the Iraqi government did not do what we did to betray you. It is the opposite. That's why I got angry. And, honestly, it is why I am still angry with you.
You are amazingly presumptuous in your demands. What did you do to take Saddam out of power? Well actually, you may have done something, but whatever it was was not effective. We are the the ones who have spilt the blood that ended up being effective.
How is it that you are not grateful for that?
I can understand that you and your country men would like justice, but stop being angry at the US who have done more to give you justice than anyone else in the world. (And, believe me, we are also aware that we screwed you during the first gulf war).
"Today, Saddam Hussein was executed after receiving a fair trial -- the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime.
Fair trials were unimaginable under Saddam Hussein's tyrannical rule. It is a testament to the Iraqi people's resolve to move forward after decades of oppression that, despite his terrible crimes against his own people, Saddam Hussein received a fair trial. This would not have been possible without the Iraqi people's determination to create a society governed by the rule of law.
Saddam Hussein's execution comes at the end of a difficult year for the Iraqi people and
FOR OUR TROOPS.
Bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself, and be an ally in the War on Terror.
We are reminded today of how far the Iraqi people have come since the end of Saddam Hussein's rule - and that the progress they have made would not have been possible without the continued service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform.
Many difficult choices and further sacrifices lie ahead. Yet the safety and security of the American people require that we not relent in ensuring that Iraq's young democracy continues to progress."
"Ali recalled the dictator's last moments. "He was saying things about injustice, about resistance, about how these guys are terrorists," he says. On the way to the gallows, according to Ali, "Saddam said, ‘Iraq without me is nothing.’"
Like I said: Countdown to you saying, "Thank you."
Speaking about cause celibre - get a load of this shyte. . .
London's loathsome, racist shyte of a mayor is planning an enormous Street Party ($4M tax dollars) http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23379699-details/Ken+plans+Trafalgar+Square+street+party+to+celebrate+5%200+years+of+Castro/article.do to celebrate the Communist Revolution in Cuba.
Red Ken would! Over at "Harry's Place" (a blog for the moderate UK left) they are appalled at Red Ken's embrace of hard-Stalinist types and recently, Islamists who openly embrace our enemy. He’s second only to George Galloway in idiotarian stature.
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Muthaf*cka!!
If I had an AK-47 (which I don't), I just might go to my rooftop to fire some rounds into the air then....
Anonymous,
Does that mean you're happy or not?
I wonder if I have a few fireworks left with which to celebrate. I hope so.
My husband just checked. We have fireworks. Yeehaw!
I brought snacks.
Amy,
What kind of liberal are you?
:)
AOW,
I have fireworks too. Thanks for the good idea.
:)
My parting shot to Saddam:
Come
back
when
you
can't
stay
so
long!
Now, where did I put those sparklers and the noisemaker... ?
I love you people.
The execution of Saddam before the end of the Anfal trial is the most recent betrayal of the Kurdish people by the US, supplanting the Baker-Hamilton report by what? A week?
Executed 10 minutes ago.
Sounds like it.
Ding dong the summbitch is DEAD.
Btw, well said, Pastorius.
You know, I have a rule for myself to be polite, but I really am sick of it. I swear to God, I'm getting to where I think we should just take over all their fucking countries and enslave them all, because they act like animals no matter how much we try to help.
Obviously, the Kurdish people have been much better for the most part, than the other Muslims, but there is very little in the way of gratitude that ever emanates from the Muslim heart.
We've spent thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars, and this guy is mad at us.
Justice is done.
By the way, I would suggest to our friend, Mizgin that he go watch that video which is just down our page. It's called Open Season.
That's pretty much how we feel about you guys now, my friend. Understand that we are getting really fed up with your demands and your bullshit.
We Americans have always believed that you can help bring people along and help them create a better world for themselves, but you Muslims have really pushed us to the brink.
We are a very dangerous People when we are really angry, so fucking watch it. And, tell all your friends too.
Pastorius,
Your anger is a righteous anger.
I have to admit the “hand wringing” by the New York Times and other MSM outlets as well as sundry European effete political leaders was getting to me. I said to my wife I wished they did it sooner just so I don’t have to hear all the bleeding hearts and the incessant wallowing in unnecessary doubt. Have all the people gone mad? How can anyone turn Saddam into a cause celibre?
Just quote the Gov of California "Hasta La Vista, Baby" and do it! It's done.
We were cheated out of executing Hitler and Tojo.
At least the Italians hung Mussolini and his mistress on meat hooks from a lamp post. And the Romanians were able to put bullets into the heads of Mr. and Mrs. Ceaucescu.
We couldn't execute Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, or Khomeini. And Chavez is currently out of reach.
But at least the Iraqis got to hang Saddam. It doesn't seem right to make a toast or celebrate. I celebrate births, not deaths. But damn it, it does feel JUST and PROPER to see a thug get his just desserts in the end. There is no joy in shooting a mad dog. But there is a calm satisfaction in seeing what had to be done, done. To have, at least for one bright, shining moment, a necessary, ugly thing done to keep this beast from ever having the hope of either finnegaling some exile like Idi Amin got, or worse, a return to power.
Whatever the future of the Iraqi Provisional Government, at least they have the accomplishment of killing the bastard.
p.s.: may Ahmadinejad sleep a little less snugly tonight, thinking that hey, maybe those "sons of pigs and dogs" might have some resolve to see things through, after all...
At this moment the MSM is alternating between hand-wringing over whether to show any pictures of the execution and interviewing some imam from Dearbornistan. At least the imam was happy about it, which puts him ahead of most of the Leftards for the time being.
You guys ROCK.
The question is not that Saddam dies, but when and how.
It should have been after the other trials and the best place for his execution would have been downtown Helebçe. There, Kurdish women could have cut him into fishbait with knives, like they did to the Ba'athi in Silêmanî, after they were thrown off the top of the Security Directorate in 1991.
THAT would have been justice.
The most interesting thing about the Anfal trial occurred last week, when evidence of Turkey's complicity in the Anfal campaign came to light in Ba'athi army documents from the time. The court microphones were turned off and then the evidence was discussed. It serves the US to protect its Turkish NATO ally. . . for many reasons.
Remember, not a single American has died in Kurdistan and one day you will want help with Iran. You've already been begging PKK for help.
On the other hand, maybe Turkey will help you. Turkey has such a good relationship with Iran these days.
AOW,
Righteous? Maybe. Articulate. No.
Angry? Hell yes.
Jason,
It is just that this guy die, and it was necessary, because of the possibility of him being sprung. It could have happened.
Didn't some major paper recently run an editorial saying we'd be better off with Saddam back in power?
Mizgin,
I have to give you credit for being reasonable with me after I have been rude with you, but your admonishment is completely inappropriate.
Think about what I said. There is the distinct possibility that Saddam could have gotten out and back in power.
It is better that he is dead.
Rest assured, we Americans know of his crimes at Halabja. He was guilty. You would have never convinced him that he was wrong. He was a maniac.
A trial only would have served the purpose of you getting out your feelings. The world needed for this guy to be dead.
Yes, I was worried about his being sprung. There were even some commentators who wanted him exiled to Tunisia ... like Arafat once was. We know what happened after that. And as I said elsewhere, I could easily see him living out his life in Paris like many an African dictator. It’s a relief that he is gone with certainty.
I actually thought he would be killed trying to "escape" and save everyone the uncertainty of a prolonged process.
Helebçe, as a small portion of the Anfal campaign, lasted 72 hours. Anfal lasted a year and a half. Others were complicit in the crimes of Anfal.
My opinion is fairly representative of Kurdish opinion in South Kurdistan, as well as in all the other parts of occupied Kurdistan. Nijmaldin Karim is another example of this opinion. From that example you can see that the Anfal trial does far more than serving the purpose of assuaging my feelings.
Of course, it is impossible for you to understand this.
The object of a trial is not to convince a perpetrator that he is wrong. We do not care if Saddam believed he was right or wrong. It is irrelevant.
As for the possibility of Saddam's escaping, I have never heard such a thing suggested by anyone . . . until now.
Good luck with Turkey on that Iran thing. You're going to need it. The Ankara regime has been very tight with the mullahs since mid-2003.
Mizgin,
You may not have heard of the possibility, but the fact remains, that it was there. In fact, a major American media outlet recently proposed that we would be better off with Hussein back in power.
People lose will.
It is better that he is dead.
We amd the Iraqi government did not do what we did to betray you. It is the opposite. That's why I got angry. And, honestly, it is why I am still angry with you.
You are amazingly presumptuous in your demands. What did you do to take Saddam out of power? Well actually, you may have done something, but whatever it was was not effective. We are the the ones who have spilt the blood that ended up being effective.
How is it that you are not grateful for that?
I can understand that you and your country men would like justice, but stop being angry at the US who have done more to give you justice than anyone else in the world. (And, believe me, we are also aware that we screwed you during the first gulf war).
Do you understand, even a little bit, that, maybe, you have something to be thankful for?
So Long Stinky Pants...and good ridance.
http://koderas-korner.blogspot.com/2006/12/
new-york-times-man-of-year.html
President Bush:
BUSH UNCENSORED: SADDAM IS DEAD
White House:
"Today, Saddam Hussein was executed after receiving a fair trial -- the kind of justice he denied the victims of his brutal regime.
Fair trials were unimaginable under Saddam Hussein's tyrannical rule. It is a testament to the Iraqi people's resolve to move forward after decades of oppression that, despite his terrible crimes against his own people, Saddam Hussein received a fair trial. This would not have been possible without the Iraqi people's determination to create a society governed by the rule of law.
Saddam Hussein's execution comes at the end of a difficult year for the Iraqi people and
FOR OUR TROOPS.
Bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself, and be an ally in the War on Terror.
We are reminded today of how far the Iraqi people have come since the end of Saddam Hussein's rule - and that the progress they have made would not have been possible without the continued service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform.
Many difficult choices and further sacrifices lie ahead. Yet the safety and security of the American people require that we not relent in ensuring that Iraq's young democracy continues to progress."
Countdown to you saying "Thank You."
Saddam Hussein:
"Ali recalled the dictator's last moments. "He was saying things about injustice, about resistance, about how these guys are terrorists," he says. On the way to the gallows, according to Ali, "Saddam said, ‘Iraq without me is nothing.’"
Like I said: Countdown to you saying, "Thank you."
Jason Pappas -
Speaking about cause celibre - get a load of this shyte. . .
London's loathsome, racist shyte of a mayor is planning an enormous Street Party ($4M tax dollars) http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23379699-details/Ken+plans+Trafalgar+Square+street+party+to+celebrate+5%200+years+of+Castro/article.do to celebrate the Communist Revolution in Cuba.
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Red Ken would! Over at "Harry's Place" (a blog for the moderate UK left) they are appalled at Red Ken's embrace of hard-Stalinist types and recently, Islamists who openly embrace our enemy. He’s second only to George Galloway in idiotarian stature.
The best leagcy for saddam is the he end up in a mel brooks musical comedy...but he's not even big enough for that.
Maybe he can be a minor character in a farce about the muslim brotherhood
Put him in an unmarked grave in Greenland.
And move on.
No loss to humankind
...
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wept
when Saddam was killed
he wanted him pissed on
being dragged through Baghdad
...
absurd thought -
God of the Universe sings
DING DONG THE BUTCHER'S DEAD...
if there is a BIG bad HELL
Saddam's registered by now
.....
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