So when faced with a foreign radical element that is anti your society and culture, what do you do? Fight back, right?Not in the UK.
On the surface, what Communities Secretary Hazel Blears proposes sounds benign enough.
Read the rest at The Gathering Storm.
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Unfortunately the opposition Conservative Party, which looks set to form the next Government, is just as keen on Islamic education as Labour.
"The Conservative Muslim Forum, a body established by Michael Howard and supported by David Cameron to advise the Conservatives on Muslim issues, has articulated some of its policy demands. In summary: Iran has a right to nuclear weapons, the Party should cease its support for Israel, a compulsory history curriculum in schools should give ‘full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation’, and preachers who advocate a rejection of democracy and its institutions should not be denied entry into Britain. They even support al-Qaradawi’s message of ‘gay-hate’. "
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2007/10/emergence-of-conservative-muslim.html
After long thought [and a lot of anger] yesterday I contemplated whether or not to just totally Drop even writing, online,
especially with the stalking of our blog, harassment, distorting of what I say or using it to discredit, and I thought about this a lot and thought--you know I just speak from My voice, no one else and as a FEMINIST AND YES A LEFTIST,
why NOT speak from my voice, Why should I have to totally be 'right wing thinking' to have any legit complaints...well, I decided, know what, Screw those who Don't like what I have to say--censure me, distort, attack, go for it...
and then, today, I got this at WAMI,
and this person first read my crude, brutal, honestly about Islam and the treatment to women ON A FEMINIST BLOG then followed me to WAMI,
thought I'd post her comment here:
Anonymous said...
Hi I'm from the UK and I've been reading your blog for a few weeks now, after you were posting on Heart's. Just like to say that you have totally opened my eyes especially regarding the rise of Islam in the UK and the rest of Europe. This has led me to study what exactly Islam is about and I have to say that the UK (at least) are sanitizing the misogyny and the message of Islam regarding women. I’m also a politics undergrad and because of this I have just opted to study 9/11 and Afghanistan next year. Anyways thanks for helping me to realise the utter stupidity of the UK govt in regards to encouraging us to ‘embrace cultural differences’ such as Islam. Yeah? Fuck that noise.
JAG
SO--AM I GOING TO WHITEWASH, REDUCE, APOLOGIZE, CHANGE WHO I AM OR WHAT MY VALUES ARE FOR BECAUSE SOME JERK OR JIHADI PYSOPS [MOST LIKELY THE LATTER] WANTS TO SHUT ME UP,
HELL
NO.
I might be CONTROVERSIAL AS HELL---
BUT OBVIOUSLY--IF MY CRUDE TELLING IT LIKE IT IS CAN WAKE ONE PERSON UP,
THINK I'LL JUST KEEP ON FIGHTING ON. Those who are so closed to see that Maybe, just Maybe one feminist might have some insight on how to confront the lies of the Islamists--
fine, do so...keep Preaching to the choir.
Controversial and radical WORKS.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
The labels 'left' and 'right' are so off kilter - the terms are rendered meaningless. Whether liberal or conservative, the goal for civilizational survival remains. Civilization defined by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights - equal rights for all - not that abomination from Cairo.
We know where you stand Natasha. I cannot fathom you giving up. Nothing in your writing style reveals even an iota of doubt.
You may not always receive the recognition you deserve or make obvious gains - but you do make a difference. I for one, am thankful for bloggers like you.
WC,
I tried to read the rest of this article over at The Gathering Storm, but I could not find it. Are you sure you posted it there?
I have been blocked by Google. Their robot decided that I was a blog spammer and blocked me from doing further posting.
I appealed and am waiting to see what happens.
Thank you Anon,
and you are so right--its the Universal Human Rights for men, women and children, and thats whats important to keep our eyes focused on and being grounded, standing firm.
Sometimes it takes the attacks to wake up and realize just how important those values are...and that Human Rights,
Women's Rights ESPECIALLY, were not 'handed' to us,
we had to fight for them and still are fighting...so,
fight on we shall.
:)
Natasha
WC,
Thanks for letting me know. However I found the Gathering storm alright, but not this article.
Blogger won't let me post it - or anything for that matter.
My CUANAS blog is shut down too.
Oh, brother.
WC,
Pastorius,
Sorry to hear this is going on. I hope you guys can fix it soon.
http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/
check it out--when the split started and the blogging organizing for Hilary began, in about one weeks time blogs at blogger were hit--
it is a good idea to have a related site if you need to transfer over to Wordpress, fewer problems with that.
also it doesn't hurt to have copies of your posts, links, etc., do an occasional print page if need be, so if you need to transfer over its much easier. Its always a wise idea to have a backup.
I have 4 1/2 years of work at CUANAS.
Interesting. I visited IBA earlier without incident. After dinner, I tried to view IBA but received an error message from IE:
"Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://www.ibloga.blogspot.com. Operation aborted"
The actual page would load, but I couldn't view because a text box (containing the above quote) would load immediately.
(the link was adjusted to reflect this site in the message above). I also had difficulty viewing JihadWatch, DhimmiWatch, Debbie Schlussel. . .while I had no trouble accessing LGF.
My virus scanner found nothing. Using Mozilla, I have no problems.
I don't know if this is connected, but thought I'd mention it.
P.S. Last week, LGF mentioned there was some undetectable phishing DNS code released. And Atlas also mentioned something about blogs being pulled IIRC (can't find link).
Pastorius - I can view Cuanas and the comments using mozilla.
-hrw
It looks like it might be a problem with Sitemeter and IE7.
British Muslims are helping the Taliban in their war against UK soldiers in southern Afghanistan, according to the former commander of Britain's forces in Afghanistan.
Brig. Ed Butler: 'There are British passport holders who live in the U.K. who are being found in places like Kandahar' Photo: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY
Brig. Ed Butler, who spent six months commanding British forces in Afghanistan, also revealed fears that militant Islamic groups in south-east Asia are supporting terrorist plots in the UK.
The brigadier, a former head of the SAS, spoke exclusively to the Daily Telegraph in the week when the British death toll in Afghanistan reached 114, with 17 fatalities in the last two months.
UK forces have uncovered evidence that British Muslims are actively supporting the Taliban and al-Qa'eda in attacks on coalition forces in southern Afghanistan, Brig Butler said.
He said: "There are British passport holders who live in the U.K. who are being found in places like Kandahar."
Earlier this year, it was revealed that RAF Nimrod spyplanes monitoring Taliban radio signals in Afghanistan had heard militants speaking with Yorkshire and Midlands accents.
Privately, British officers in Afghanistan estimate that several thousand Taliban fighters have been killed since 2006, among them people from outside the country.
One officer said: "While my troops have not actually found British passports on enemy dead there has been a suspicion that with the high number of Taliban casualties they have needed to recruit a lot of foreign fighters and some of these are likely to be of British-Muslim descent."
Disturbingly, Brig Butler suggested the traffic between Britain and Afghanistan may flow in both directions, with some British Muslims returning from the region and posing a domestic security threat.
Brig Butler, 46, said he had seen evidence that terror groups based in southern Afghanistan were plotting with Muslim extremists in Britain to carry out terror attacks in the UK.
"There is a link between Kandahar and urban conurbations in the UK," said Brig. Butler. "This is something the military understands but the British public does not."
Western intelligence agencies are increasingly concerned that Afghanistan and its lawless border with Pakistan are now home to many training camps used by Jihadi groups to prepare radicals for attacks in the West.
A Whitehall source confirmed that the security services are aware of some radicalized British Muslims returning to the UK from Afghanstan.
The source said: "There are very small numbers of British citizens traveling out there, being trained up and then returning to the UK."
With al-Qaeda widely seen to be losing ground in Iraq, counter-terrorism officials say that Afghanistan is emerging as the focus for radicalised Western Muslims wanting to fight Western forces.
Earlier this year, Nigel Inkster, a former deputy head of MI6, warned that Taliban groups over the border in Pakistan have "dispatched terrorists to a number of locations including Spain and the United Kingdom."
Brig Butler, widely regarded as one of the best British officers of his generation, announced his decision to retire from the Army earlier this year.
He had been a candidate for the job of Director, Special Forces, overseeing the SAS, the SBS and the Special Reconnaissance Regiment.
Despite claims that his premature retirement was in protest at the government's underfunding of the Armed Forces, Brig Butler insisted his decision to step down had been prompted by the desire to spend more time with his family.
"I reached the conclusion that I did not want to leave my family any more for an extended period. Life is too short. There is no point having a family if you are not going to see them," he said.
Brig Butler commanded British forces when they began their current mission in southern Afghanistan two years ago and is credited with being the architect of the British Army's strategy for defeating the Taliban.
But he said that from the outset British commanders knew the Taliban "would be up for a fight, but we were surprised at how ferocious that fight turned out to be."
When British forces deployed to Helmand province in 2006, Brig Butler warned the government that there was a strong possibility that British soldiers would end up killing Muslims who held British passports and were fighting with the Taliban and al-Qa'eda.
He is currently Commander of Joint Force Operations based at Northwood, near London, and will formally leave the Army next year.
British commanders and diplomats have warned that the West faces a "long haul" in Afghanistan and may have to retain a military presence there for decades to come.
Brig Butler believes the continued presence of radical British Muslims in southern Afghanistan is one of the reasons British forces must remain in the region, despite the heavy number of battlefield fatalities.
"This is a highly significant mission," he said. "If we do not win against the protagonists of the September 11 attacks then those who are against us will take great succour from it."
It is vital for British forces to remain in Afghanistan "for as long as it takes" to prevent a repeat of the July 7 bombings in London in 2005, which killed 52 people, he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/2485750/British-Muslims-fighting-with-Taliban-in-Afghanistan.html
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