Monday, May 31, 2010

English Defense League Uncovered

Posted without comment. What do you all think?

from The Guardian

20 comments:

Unknown said...

God bless the British. They, as usual, confuse racism and culturism. They have black and Sikh supporters. They called their black UAF enemy a communist, not a racial remark. Then when they talk of Islam everything is a "phobia." Well well well, so culture is race and it is unimportant. This is multicultural slander.

Diversity is supposed to be all wonderful. Perhaps it would be if all were rational. But all are not rational. Diversity is the necessary precursor to civic instability. That is why NO OTHER CIVILIZATION GOES FOR DIVERSITY.

The kicker of proof of irrationality is not the EDL, it is Islam. That is a nutjob religion. And even were Islam rational, the visceral EDL response to their totally different way of life has a strong basis in nature. It makes deep evolutionary sense.

In our history, we had the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1892. This was a racist law. But it did not question rationality. The Supreme Court, in their analysis asked what had more weight, our right to domestic tranquility (diversity again was leading to riots) or other nation's peoples right to immigrate to our nation. They said we have a right to tranquility and they have no right to our nation.

Hmmn. Diversity is not rational. And rationality is not all there is in the world. Sorry to disappoint the reporter obsessed with "phobia."
www.culturism.us

Black_Rain said...

well..the --"Facts"-- are, they are right.. the Borglims are taking over..however deplorable their attitudes are.

they are taking over, that is the Borglims plan.. to out populate us while totally disrupting our culture.

this Video says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

the EU has a birth rate of about 1.3, , which is unsustainable, the USA about 1.6 and magically with the Latino migrations the birth rate is up to 2.11

the Borglims have a birth rate of over 8. so if you're about 30.. in your life time the EU and most of the world will become a Borglamic nation.

Borghummad said when all the world is Borglam it will be called the Caliphate.. that is when the killing will begin in Ernst. the winning sect will be the True Borg. but even then anyone who feels Ballah wants them to make everyone left a better Borg.. he can take over by force and be free to inflict whatever evil is necessary to make the Borglims closer to Bog.. the Devil himself couldn't come up with a more destructive Evil scheme to inflict maximum suffering on all beings.

our total nuclear disarmament program is probably to prevent the Borglims from getting them when they take over.

there will be no stopping them now.. it's a done deal. they caught us napping, drunk on their oil.

Black_Rain said...

what the West ..or any
non-Borglomic culture doesn't understand is that Borglam does NOT use logic, nor Reason. Borglam only has a "List", with 2 columns, what is acceptable and what is not. without reason as to why.

in one form of Sharia Law there are 442 things you can do that carries a Death Sentence. one is to ask any question about the Koran.. Vigilantism is encouraged, so if you break one of the 442 rules your family or best friend.. anyone on the street is supposed to kill you on the spot.

a man can kill his children or grand children.. no paper work involved.

it is a good thing Ballah is merciful.. because the Borglims ARE NOT..!!

Always On Watch said...

As I understand the EDL, the group consists of working class Brits. Many of those in the working class live amongst Moslems as large numbers of Moslems have gravitated to those particular neighborhoods.

These people in the EDL are on the front lines of a particular kind of Islamification and are striking back the only way they know how to do so. Maybe it's ugly.

If the government showed any kind of leadership in standing up for British culture, the pendulum wouldn't be swinging so hard and so right.

Always On Watch said...

BTW, the Guardian does have a left bias. I wonder how accurately the EDL is being portrayed? Selective editing can have quite an impact on the final video clip.

Always On Watch said...

A different take on the EDL -- a pr video, I suppose.

Unknown said...

AOW,

I found a similar video on the EDL. Disgusting. It is smear after smear.

MR I want to use this clip but cannot find how to embed it. Would you send me the embed link or tell me how you did it?

Thanks! john

Pastorius said...

Black Rain,
You said: in one form of Sharia Law there are 442 things you can do that carries a Death Sentence. one is to ask any question about the Koran.. Vigilantism is encouraged, so if you break one of the 442 rules your family or best friend.. anyone on the street is supposed to kill you on the spot.


I say: Can you get me that list, or a reference for it, and for the vigilantism part? I'd like to post that.

Pastorius said...

Black Rain said: the --"Facts"-- are, they are right.. the Borglims are taking over..however deplorable their attitudes are.


I say: I know. That's the sad thing about this video. I am let down. I want to the EDL to be a force for good, but it is clear that a sizable portion of the people involved are not good.

Pastorius said...

AOW,
I watched that video about the EDL and the Dudley protests. That is very well done.

Good stuff.

If only the goons in the EDL would make it easier for us and keep their actions clean, and their mouths shut.

One thing that is not true, in that video from the Guardian, is the EDL has not actually been violent in any widespread way.

To my knowledge, all violence has been started by the UAF.

I could be wrong, but that is what I have read, repeatedly, in reports on these protests.

So, when the Guardian does a report on this situation, they leave out information about the Muslims, yes, and they also leave out all information about the provocations of the UAF.

revereridesagain said...

Mornin' all. As I have posted above -- and there's plenty of good coverage at ATLAS, BareNakedIslam, and JawaReport to name just a few -- the compost has hit the wind farm now that the Israelis have clashed with the Hamas flotilla, and there will be much more important things to worry about than whether some lad from the EDL calls an Islamist a "Paki". Rather like being concerned about what the sailors called the Japanese in the middle of the Pearl Harbor raid.

midnight rider said...

Culturist John -- I had to download this to my own pc (I used Real Player Downloader) then upload/import it into the IBA post using blogger's tool to do so (there's anicon for it, aside of the add image icon). It took a long time to download it to my pc and even longer to upload into blogger (almost 1/2 hour) butit did work.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is the following. For every EDL protest the UAF (United Against Fascism) counter-protest. The UAF are hooded thugs looking to instigate trouble. They were successful in baiting the Stoke-On-Trent demo in January (video in thread). EDL recognized the problem with some tag-along trouble-makers and addressed them directly. In March, another better controlled demo took place in Bolton. Thousands face off in rally
This time, some of the local papers broke down the group identity of those arrested. Quote: "More than 30 UAF protesters and three from the EDL have been arrested so far, police said."
The local news continued to follow-up with updates: link Quote: "Sixty-seven people are in custody following disturbances during a demonstration in Bolton today. At least 55 are from the UAF and nine from the EDL. "

The above links demonstrate the problem lies with UAF instigators who come, in many cases, with the local pols blessing/protection if not by local pol invitation.

The EDL is a young enterprise which is growing rapidly - notably with many Asian (non-muslim), black, Jewish and immigrant members. They are experiencing some growing pains. They need to find a 'voice' like Wilders who can articulate the message clearly and concentrate on weeding out the rabble rousers and infiltrators.

cjk said...

Isn't 'Searchlight' the same organization who edited the video of the two AP/Jihad propagandist's who were killed while accompanying armed men in Baghdad in 2006 I think? They made it look as if the US army just murdered two 'journalists', but a close look shows they got what they deserved.
I think it was Searchlight who started that deception.....Maybe I'm wrong.

Always On Watch said...

Pastorius,
If only the goons in the EDL would make it easier for us and keep their actions clean, and their mouths shut.

I'm not sure they're all goons. Clearly some in the video are racists. I wonder if the "hierarchy" of the EDL wants them there?

Anyway, the nasty reaction is one which is provoked -- as you pointed out.

Now, others in the UK do look down on the working class who have formed the EDL. Snobbish? Yes. But the class system does still prevail in the UK.

I highly doubt that any other than the working class in the UK will ever support the EDL. For that reason, the EDL may have some very excruciating growing pains and actually lose some supporters.

The media in the UK are doing everything possible to discredit the EDL because the media live to whitewash Islam.

Those folks in the largely-Moslem neighborhoods have had enough of being persecuted and terrorized, so I can't blame them for striking back.

Things are going to get mighty ugly in the UK within just a few years.

Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
Well guess what fucktards, not everyone wants to roll just over and play dead or poke their asses in the air to appease the ISLAMIC ATTACK ON WESTERN CIVILIZATION. So there's going to be one hell of a fight whether you stinking cowards like it or not.

Were I in the position of those Westerners living in those largely-Moslem neighborhoods, my behavior to save my way of life would not be squeaky clean either.

That said, the pr war does matter. People will see this video of the EDL and shy away -- for any number of reasons.

Pick a side? Well, I do know what side I'm on, and it's not that of Islam -- that's for sure.

Always On Watch said...

Anonymous,
The EDL is a young enterprise which is growing rapidly - notably with many Asian (non-muslim), black, Jewish and immigrant members. They are experiencing some growing pains. They need to find a 'voice' like Wilders who can articulate the message clearly and concentrate on weeding out the rabble rousers and infiltrators.

I've heard that EDL is indeed trying to do the weeding out.

Controlling street demonstrations is impossible, of course, as far as who marches along. Infiltration can be a serious problem, too.

Black_Rain said...

here are some Blasphemy laws..

i was reading Nonie Darwish's book about Sharia Law .best autobiography,
http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Usual-Punishment-Terrifying-Implications/dp/B002ZNJW04/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275335803&sr=1-1

this is another great Hero.. Wafa Sultan a Doctor from Syria.
http://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Hates-Courageous-Inflamed/dp/0312538359/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275335697&sr=8-1

check out both of their Youtube videos.. both of these Heroic Women have Fatwas for their heads on a platter.

this is the best resource about Muhammad ever written.
http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Usual-Punishment-Terrifying-Implications/dp/B002ZNJW04/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275335803&sr=1-1



here are Youtube Resourcs..

Ali Sina
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ali+Sina&aq=f

wafa http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wafa+sultan&aq=0sulton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMf5AP1RKkI

Nonnie darwish.. best autobiography i have read..
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nonie+darwish&aq=0


blasphemy laws..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy

Black_Rain said...

hi.. "Always on watch"

you said.. "Clearly some in the video are racists".

Borglam.. formerly known as Islam, is a "Racially Supremest Psychotic Personality Cult". i really don't feel people who are criticizing it, in any way, are Racist at all. THEY ARE "SURVIVALISTS".

people in the West do not understand that Islam DOES NOT USE REASON NOR LOGIC..!!!!!!!!!!

THEY HAVE A LIST OF WHAT IS PERMITTED AND ANOTHER LIST OF WHAT IS NOT PERMITTED.

ISLAM IS THE MOST INVASIVE EXTREMIST TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP ON THE EARTH. IT IS NOT A RELIGION IT IS A POLITICAL AND LEGAL SYSTEM

women are treated the way they are because they are Hollow Soulless shells. only Adam was given a soul.

Islam invades a culture then assimilates all beings into it that survive the assimilation., then declares all of that cultures history, art, music, science/etc to be part the Dark age before Islam and is destroyed for ever.

when there is ONE MOSQUE the invasion has begun and is un-stopable.. more will be sent as immagrents till another Outpost can be established.. etc, etc, etc..
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=ground+zero+mosque+to+be+built&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=ground+zero+mosque+to+be+built&gs_rfai=C7zbTsygETJqoHZ7-zQTCwGEAAACqBAVP0DM3_A&fp=34a472219e05e2a4

****again.. here are the "FACTS"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

You need to read this book, while realizing that Islam is based on the total Emulation of Muhammad.. being like the Prophet in every way.
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Muhammad-Ali-Sina/dp/0980994802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275338323&sr=1-1

i miss-posted this in a previous post.. THIS BOOK IS ESSENTIAL TO UNDERSTANDING MUHAMMAD and ISLAM.

YOU MUST READ THIS BOOK
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Muhammad-Ali-Sina/dp/0980994802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275338323&sr=1-1

Pastorius said...

Black Rain,
Thanks for all the info.

Just so you know, we've covered Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Geert Wilders, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali extensively here.

We're glad they're alive and doing what they are doing.

And, thanks again for being such a fount of information.

By the way, you said: Borglam.. formerly known as Islam, is a "Racially Supremest Psychotic Personality Cult". i really don't feel people who are criticizing it, in any way, are Racist at all. THEY ARE "SURVIVALISTS".


I say: I'm tempted to agree with you, but rationality says that some of these people are, indeed, racists. Some of any group is racist, so you can't say that anyone criticizing Islam is not racist.

Our question is, is the EDL racist in leadership structure, or predominantly racist in membership?

Personally, I don't think they are racist in leadership structure. Not from what I've read. However, as several people here have said, they have some growing pains ahead of them, because they certainly do not seem to be very good at comporting themselves.

Look, if they want to become a kind of street army, they need to reporesnt themselves more eloquently than, "fucking Pakis, we'll stomp those fucking Jihadis".

That's just lame.

And, I get the argument about what we were calling the Japs/gooks/Krauts in WWII. I get it. I understand that in a foxhole communication is different, but frankly we are not in the foxhole stage of this war, my friends.

I know