Laugh, cry, or decide that enough's enough?
UPDATE:
Damien said...
Pastorius,
I'm sorry I don't find this particularly shocking.
Pastorius said...
How would you feel if your mother voluntarily submitted herself to a portable concentration camp every day, Damien?
Damien said...
Pastorius,
Horrible, but the video still was not that shocking. Women in the arab world are treated much worse than this. If you had no knowledge of Islam or the way Muslims treat women, what would you think if you saw this video.
Pastorius said...
Perhaps I should have given that context.
However, I guess I assume everyone who comes to this site knows the depth of the problem.
My point with this post is that the BBC is attempting to make this shit look fun and fashionable, like its something which ought to be completely tolerable to women.
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Pastorius,
I'm sorry I don't find this particularly shocking.
How would you feel if your mother voluntarily submitted herself to a portable concentration camp every day, Damien?
Pastorius,
Horrible, but the video still was not that shocking. Women in the arab world are treated much worse than this. If you had no knowledge of Islam or the way Muslims treat women, what would you think if you saw this video.
Perhaps I should have given that context.
However, I guess I assume everyone who comes to this site knows the depth of the problem.
My point with this post is that the BBC is attempting to make this shit look fun and fashionable, like its something which ought to be completely tolerable to women.
The video is no longer available.
All I can say is that I agree the MSM is trying to make the most misogynist religion on Planet Earth look like an evening of penuckle. SICK!
UK RESIDENTS--WANT TO INFORM TO COMBAT THE DISINFORMATION,
HERE YOU GO
UPDATE: SEE FULL DOCUMENTARY HERE: http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs61958
http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs2986
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hbkzM43ZAVBNvNXfjpm4jeYZfw4AD92CAK4O0
those are just for starters--
also
MIGHT not be a bad idea to have someone investigate why the unions of Tyson have been allowing Latina Immigrant women to be sexually harassed and threatened by the Somalian men, whom they allowed by vote, labor day to be given up for, for a religious day [Moslem day],
and,
why Tyson, rumor on the mill, is replacing the illegal Mexican immigrant workers to bring in more Somalian Moslem workers who will work for cheaper labor, wages,
at the help of Catholic Charities.
And why the Immigrant Rights and the far left and Unions, are allowing this to happen and how can they be 'pro-immigrant rights' yet,
do nothing or say nothing about the Latina Immigrant workers leaving Tyson, one per day as word is out, due to the unsafe environment because of the sexual harassment and threats by the Somalian moslems who believe they are ENTITLED TO TREAT women this way...
and the Union says nada.
I think someone with some clout should look into this.
did you know your You Tube videos were no longer available? As of 3:45 pm 8/06/08.
not to fret women
in Iran, they are letting the Rapunzel's out of the dungeons for a brief time,
so those glamorous fashions on these videos [which, btw, Reality check--once the Islamic Sharia-Republic takes over, those adornments won't be allowed, except at home in ONLY rooms with ONLY women, and THAT IS FOR LIFE--]
in other words, those 'chic' silks and bracelets and bangles, and I know what I speak of here,
are in layers upon layers, restrictive movement, enjoy your LIFE PRISON SENTENCE BEHIND THE FOUR WALLS OF YOUR DUNGEON HOME--FOR THE REST OF YOUR
LIFE.
You don't need to be chained--though in some republics they DO CHAIN WOMEN TO THE BEDS, but the restrictive clothing and laws, will be all THE CHAINS YOU'LL NEED,
prisoners, in CRIMINAL PRISONS--HAVE MORE FREEDOM
THAN WOMEN IN ISLAM.
THAT IS FACT--AND BTW, CRIMINAL PRISONERS IN THE WORST OF US PRISONS
GET BEATEN, RAPED, TORTURED, FAR LESS THAN WOMEN LIVING UNDER ISLAMIC LAWS--THAT IS
FACT.
And starting at very very young ages...if you Really want to practice living that--sign up and live in an all women's prison for about five years--get a taste of it,
because all the pretty bangles and silks in the world, ONCE YOU'VE KNOWN FREEDOM--won't take that suffocation away.
and like PRISONERS--they let the Rapunzel's out for a very, very brief time--in an fenced in area--just like they do in Prisons .
so enjoy the 'fashion' ladies...and be sure, you get those scarves in ORANGE, thats the usual color in prisons here isn't it?
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1421717.php/Kish_Island_-_"Temporary_timeout%22_for_Iranian_women_by_Farshid_Motahari_dpa__Feature_
"those who don't move do not recognize their chains"
Rosa Luxembourg
BVRacin,
Thanks for letting us know.
Sometimes it seems like YouTube takes down every video we put up.
Pastorius
Dhimmi-tube strikes again.
Wafa Sultan talks about Sharia
http://www.wikio.com/video/359523
Are there feminists in support for Wafa Sultan?!
Some Muslim 'feminists' do, I know, shocking.
In fact, like CONSERVATIVE FEMINISM in the west--pro fundie religious women--
you have women who not only Justify Sharia but who say its to 'protect women' or that its to keep women in their 'submissive place',
the psychology IS IDENTICAL to women who internalize patriarchy in the West and who make all sorts of excuses for misogyny being tolerable and excusable under religion.
I think it was 50% or more of college educated Muslim women polled who believed and supported Sharia,
but--we have polls in our colleges in the west that women have voted that if a woman is raped its somehow 'her fault',
or its the attribution--the 'them', so the what applies to them women doesn't apply to us standards--but one thing they both have in common--
as far as feminists supporting fundamentalim, that laws that punish women because they deviate--are just because 'those' loose women have deviated from their gender and God or Allah ordained role.
So yes, there are so called feminists who support the Sultan and who support the Christian fundies and all other types of blatant misogynist laws and social constructs.
We still shackle women in labor here in America if they are in prison, even for non-violent crimes--ask most fundie feminists and they'll say thats just--until of course They get put in that situation for lets saying,
speaking out against Islam one day
they may soon find just how UNJUST those treatments are,
and inhumane. Point is, they are laws that are steeped in misogyny and they are totally justified, because you see its 'them' deviants, 'them' women, not pure like us, who deserve that,
and that is what you get IN PATRIARCHY, because women internalize and police themselves and each other a lot more than the men police them--Islamic society even more so,
so, astonishingly and quite shocking--because woman's consciousnss is molded by patriarchy, religion, men,
yea, you'd be surprised at just how many feminists and women,
who support FUNDAMENTALIST POLICINIG OF WOMEN'S BEHAVIOR
will support the Sultan and Sharia.
OR THOSE Feminists DUPED ENOUGH to think that Sharia is to put women on a higher level to 'protect them' and one strong area that some Radical feminists DO support--or have some sort of sick twisted mental assent too--
is the gender separation or gender Jim Crow laws in Sharia, and thats what they are Jim Crow laws for women. They support them thinking that women centered culture shouldn't have men around--WHAT THEY FORGET THOUGH--
IS THAT IN ISLAM AND SHARIA--that kind of JIM CROW separation is NOT women centered such as the gender separationists--its Jim Crow AND imprisonment of each individual woman under the dungeons of her MALE MASTER,
so there is a lot of 'romanticized' deception being USED by taqiyya to lure women, including feminists, into being 'soft on sharia',
where you will here statements like,
"well its only the Fundamentalist cultures that have extreme Sharia" or its How Sharia is interpreted,
and one of the MOST dangerous places we have today that is soft on Sharia is in fact our legal system--because some of the laws in Sharia are not that different from the laws that were used to 'control women' in the west and that in some ways--are Still being used to 'control' women,
and Guess who supports THOSE LAWS?
THE FUNDIE FEMINISTS IN THIS COUNTRY...
the platform has been set--once you allow ANY notion that women are inferior and are meant to be ruled as such--YOU'VE OPENED THE DOOR NOT ONLY TO SHARIA,
BUT TO THE INTERNALIZATIONS IN THOUSANDS OF WOMEN WHO WILL RATIONALIZE, JUSTIFY, AND EVEN SEE SHARIA AS SOME SICKO TWISTED PROTECTIONISM of their
FEMALE VAGINA VIRTUE.
so yea, sorry to say but there are women that COLONIZED IN THE MIND AND SPIRIT BY
PATRIARCHY
RELIGION
ANTI-FEMIMIST CONSCIOUSNESS
POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES OF CONTROL AND PROTECTIONISM OF SEXUALITY
AND SOME FORMS OF SEPARATIST FEMINISM
that will not only rationalize but will tragically, embrace and support Sharia--Lite at first,
but it wouldn't be hard to do.
Put it this way--those used to being subjugated--colonized--under absolutism or elitism, even if revolution happens--its really easy to re-subjugate them because you see,
its in the consciousness, as long as women rationalize abuses here under other religions and ideologies, as long as women will say, oh that woman was raped because by golly she wasn't some pure Madonna virgin,
and as long as Those internalized beliefs still run strong,
it won't be that difficult to lure women, into supporting Sharia. Especially when you look at the backlash of feminist [true] in This country...won't be hard at all.
Natasha
WAMI
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