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Friday, September 22, 2006

What Everyone Believes but No One Can Say

Virtually everyone in America, Europe and the Free World shares a single idea: atheists and evangelicals; Platonists, Greek Orthodox and Amish; Hispanics, blacks, and WASPS; Baptists, Catholics, and Marxists; hedonistic materialists, party girls, and comedians; Filipino postmen and Dutch engineers; gays, feminists, and High Church Anglican grandmothers. However, it is the nature of our times that this idea, shared by nearly everyone you know and nearly everyone they know, an idea our ancestors believed going back millennia, cannot be spoken in the public square.

This idea can be stated in many ways but it’s basically this: “Allah does not exist, Muhammad was not his prophet, and the Koran is not a holy book.”

Christians of all denominations believe this by the very fact of being Christians. Atheists believe Islam is superstition, as they believe about all religions. Western people have believed Islam is a false religion as a matter of course since Islam was founded in the 600s. This belief has never been controversial. It was part and parcel of being a Westerner and a Christian, a thread in the fabric of life, unquestioned and accepted and undisputable.

Despite 1300 years of near-universal understanding, this belief is today barred from the public square. In some parts of Europe, notably Belgium, to stating this openly could open oneself to criminal prosecution. Even in America it would be considered offensive and rude and insulting to announce this unspeakable but widely held belief.

Yet this is not rude or insulting in and of itself. It is a self-evident fact that unless you are a Muslim you do not believe in Allah or that an angel recited the Koran to Muhammad. It’s as plain and simple as that.

When did disbelief in Islam become an insult? How have we gotten to a point where no one can say what everyone believes?

To state publicly, openly, the obvious beliefs of billions of people – that Islam is a form of Arab tribal paganism disguised as monotheism – is all but impossible. We have become too “polite”, too “sensitive”, too “respectful” to say it. Yet we believe it and we know others believe it.

As a Christian neither I nor anyone I know is personally insulted that billions of people are not Christians, and as such, do not belief in the Incarnation and Resurrection of Christ. To non-Christians, Christ was an ancient Jewish sage executed by the Romans. I accept this. I don’t riot and kill people over it. This is part of living in the world.

If Muslims cannot accept that most people do not believe Allah exists, do not believe Muhammad was a divinely inspired prophet, and do not believe the Koran is a sacred book, then we really are in a clash of civilizations. If Muslims in Pakistan cannot accept that the Catholic Pope will occasionally, without even trying, insult and deny Islam, then we are in for a long and terrible conflict.

Cross-posted at Thomas the Wraith.
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Blogger Pastorius said...

Well, now that the cat is out of the bag, I don't believe that Mohammed was even a sane human being. Shh, don't tell anyone Thomas, but, I think he was a loon.

Friday, September 22, 2006 3:25:00 am  
Anonymous n_jones said...

I'm going to post a link to this post at my site if that's not a problem......

Great post......

Also I think Mohammed was a WHITE guy..... He duped a bunch of arabs... If it wasn't so sad it might be funny.....

Friday, September 22, 2006 4:12:00 am  
Blogger mts said...

Mohammed was a redhead, wasn't he?

I wonder how he got to an area where everyone else has olive complexion and black hair. If he wasn't indigenous, was he some Roman import of old, maybe a descendant of some Norse or Germanic people who the Romans banished out there? Maybe he was Berber - weren't the Berbers and Carthaginians of Roman days supposed to be the same as Europeans, ethnically?

We can study the bejesus out of Jesus, and guess what he looked like and what his ancestry were all day long, but of course to bring scholarly research to islam is an insult.

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:01:00 am  
Blogger urbanadder22 said...

I believe that Mohammed existed.

I believe that he was extremely clever as evidenced by his making up a new "religion" from bits and pieces of the Christian and Hebrew scriptures--which he did not read as he was iliterate, but was told about.

I believe that by cunning and violence, he forced weaker minds to accept his fairy tale as coming directly from one god via an angel (borrowed from the existing religions). I believe he was neither a "good" man nor a moral man as evidenced by his deeds I believe that anyone who emulates him is likewise not a good man--neither ethically nor morally.

I believe that the foul and murderous deeds he had committed make him a dangerous example for all impressionable minds, as they believe similar acts committed by them are sanctioned by the "religion" (Islam).

I believe that Islam is a horror visited upon our world--simplistic, catering to our basest instincts (robbery, rape, sadistic mutilation, and murder), easy to practice--giving license to fulfill male dreams of sex and power.

I believe that is why it has and still does appeal to millions.

I believe that an ideology masked as a religion that not only permits but urges you to rob those who are not of like belief, enslave and rape their women (and children), kill the unbelievers so disgustingly that it will strike fear into the threatened, is evil and must be eradicated from this earth.

If you recite the foregoing seven points seven times, you become instantly a member of a world-wide group bonded together in brother- (and sister-)hood, and if you believe this you are out of your freaking mind!

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:08:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

If Mohammed had white skin and red hair ... you know, he might have been a ... well, you know ... a ...








Friday, September 22, 2006 5:19:00 am  
Anonymous n_jones said...

I wasn't sure if I wanted to go there...... But I believe that King David from the Bible had fair skin and red hair.......

Things that make ya go hhhmmmm....

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:24:00 am  
Blogger urbanadder22 said...

Couldn't resist an attempt to plunge into the Mohammed-racial discussion.

If, as has been suggested, that Moohammed was a white guy (and we know he had a beard), and he taught new things to the benighted, then he can be compared with another white guy, also bearded who did the same deed on the American continent: Quetzalcoatl (Kukulcan)--the feathered serpent of Meso-America.

There are other legends of strangers (mostly bearded) who teach wondrous things to the natives; only I can't recall them right now and am too lazy to research the subject.

It seems, however, that these bearded white guys pop up amongst the duskier humans in quite a few cultures .

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:25:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Well, the thing is, Quetzalcoatl and Mohammed are two of the most vile human beings to have walked the earth.

I don't know what we are supposed to learn from this intellectual excursion.

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:36:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Oops, that didn't make sense. What I really meant to say is that the religions of Mohammed and Quetzalcoatl are two of the most vile things human beings have ever produced.

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:39:00 am  
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Friday, September 22, 2006 6:04:00 am  
Blogger Demosthenes said...

Wow, this is depressing! I'm gathering you think that I submitting my poem about having anal sex with Mohammed to my local newspaper is a bad idea at this time?

Friday, September 22, 2006 6:10:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...


I say we hold a rally and you read it for the media.

Friday, September 22, 2006 6:18:00 am  
Blogger KG said...

"..then we are in for a long and terrible conflict."
On the other hand we may just surrender meekly. After all, we're well on the way already.

Friday, September 22, 2006 6:55:00 am  
Blogger Gormless Norman said...

Thomas, excellent post. It really states clearly the point we've come to, and this truth is pretty shocking when we open our eyes and look at it. Essentially the point you make is this: we have regressed to the days when there was such a thing as "blasphemy," which meets with public sanction; but, it's not even blasphemy within our own religion: it's a foreign religion, against which we have always defined ourselves. Given this, you could almost say we now live under Islam. What religions is it ok to make fun of? The answer is, all of them...except for Islam. Does this make us Dhimmis, or are we actually Muslims now? Our media has incorporated bits and pieces of Sharia, and it looks like society at large has as well, as you point out. At what point do we look back and say, "yep, that's when the transition happened"?

Friday, September 22, 2006 7:04:00 am  
Blogger Gormless Norman said...

KG, you're right in pointing out that the worst case scenario is a slow creeping surrender. I noticed you made the same point a while back, over here:

"One of two things will happen--either the islamists will commit an atrocity so heinous that no Western leader will dare to do other than respond in kind, or we will have civil war in the West and the emergence of a savage, merciless army of citizens who will slaughter anybody other than their own kind.

Both are horrifying. Both are preferable to a slow, creeping surrender to the darkness."

Exactly right. This is why we need clarity, ASAP, such as Thomas kicks in this post.

Friday, September 22, 2006 7:06:00 am  
Blogger Kleinverzet said...


The simply stated ideas are often the strongest. Brilliant post, mate.

Friday, September 22, 2006 8:38:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

L Ron Hubbard was a read head.

He too invented a religion curently followed by freaks.

Perhaps they are related.

Friday, September 22, 2006 8:44:00 am  
Blogger Michael van der Galien said...

If Muslims cannot accept that most people do not believe Allah exists, do not believe Muhammad was a divinely inspired prophet, and do not believe the Koran is a sacred book, then we really are in a clash of civilizations. If Muslims in Pakistan cannot accept that the Catholic Pope will occasionally, without even trying, insult and deny Islam, then we are in for a long and terrible conflict.

Exactly. Wonderful post Thomas. 'We' have let ourselves be censored, although especially the media. What is wrong with saying that one does not believe that Mohammed was a prophet (of good)? What is wrong with saying that there is nothing holy about the Qu'ran?

I am a Christian and, indeed, as such I believe that there is nothing holy about the Qu'ran nor that Mohammed was a prophet, nor that God is as Allah is described in the Qu'ran.

Somehow we are forced to believe that Mohammed was a prophet, not because we actually think so, but out of political correctness.

Friday, September 22, 2006 8:55:00 am  
Anonymous religion of pieces said...

It's Emperor's new clothes time.

Friday, September 22, 2006 10:05:00 am  
Anonymous revereridesagain said...

From Brigitte Gabriel's Because They Hate (if you haven't read it yet, please do), referring to "moderate" Muslim clerics in America: "Talking about overthrowing our government and replacing it with an Islamic caliphate is terrorism... This is the more dangerous kind, the kind that circles you slowly, so that by the time you realize you are about to be killed, it's already too late to do anything about it. Where is the outrage? Have we lost our sense of patriotism and loyalty to America?" Well, we haven't but a lot of fools out there apparently have.

I should change my username to onepissedoffoldlady because that's what I'm becoming. I see everything I wanted to do in the last 30 years of my life slipping through my hands like water because at this rate I won't have time to do anything but fight these savages. None of us should have to put up with this harassment. We love life, the Islamists love death. Give the monsters what they want, as much of it as it takes to get them off our backs, and let the rest of us get on with life.

Friday, September 22, 2006 12:17:00 pm  
Blogger Pim's Ghost said...

Klein Verzet, I heartily concur. That just stripped it bare and took away all of the sometimes confusing over-analysis of the subject, leaving the essence that got us all started writing about this very subject in the 1st place. Very well put Wraith, very nice.

Gormless--yes, you and I seem to be on the same page. I started an article last night which I'll finish today on that subject of sharia creeping in unbidden.

Friday, September 22, 2006 1:55:00 pm  
Blogger Demosthenes said...

I think a point was left out of the essay & the entire debate about what the Pope said: how muslims talk about us. They constantly call us--Christian, Jews, atheist, Hindus, Buddhists, and whatever else all sorts of horrible things and prey for terrible fates for us. And it's not like one obscure sermon by the Pope. It's every Muslim religious leader who is saying nasty things all the time. I don't think what the Pope said was inappropriae, but if someone had a such view, they should be venting their spleen on Islam, the religion of nasty slurs.

Friday, September 22, 2006 2:29:00 pm  
Blogger Jay.Mac said...


A superbly written post. Bravo.

Friday, September 22, 2006 4:24:00 pm  
Anonymous Spot said...

Brilliant post. Truth that is stunning in its stark clarity.

5 barks (!!!!!) from spot@infidelpuppies.com

Friday, September 22, 2006 4:55:00 pm  
Blogger Thomas the Wraith said...

Thanks for all the kind words. It's nice to know someone is reading.

Friday, September 22, 2006 5:07:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

and all this fuss caused by an auditory tumor...outstanding post.

But it provokes another point...if Allah needs violence and calls for it if he is ignored, denied or pushed aside can it be the same deity?

Did the God of the hebrews and christians call for everyone in the levant to be extinguished who would not follow his 10 laws if they were invited to do so?

Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:49:00 pm  

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