Tuesday, October 21, 2008

The Prisoner's Dilemma

In a "game" researchers use to test personalities and winning strategies, they often employ the Prisoner's Dilemma, which is a hypothetical situation played between two people.

The Prisoner's Dilemma says "imagine you have two men who committed a crime together. They have been caught and the police are interrogating them separately. Both prisoners are offered the same deal: If you rat on your partner and if he keeps quiet, he'll get a life sentence and you'll go free. But if you both keep silent, we have enough evidence that you'll both get a year in prison. If he rats and you don't, you'll get life and he'll go free. If you both rat on each other, you'll each get twenty years in prison."

The dilemma is often played repeatedly with the same two people, who choose to cooperate or take advantage of the other through successive rounds of the game.

The Prisoner's Dilemma game is designed to parallel real life. If two people in real life cooperate with each other, it very often works to their mutual advantage. But if one person cooperates and the other takes advantage, it often works out very well for the selfish one and the good person gets screwed. But to go around preempting people — trying to take advantage of them before they take advantage of you — results in great loss all around. That's the dilemma. What is the best strategy?

The best strategy, it turns out, is "tit for tat." On the first round, be cooperative. After that, do whatever the other one does.

I didn't mean to go into so much detail, but I just wanted to make a point. Damien sent me a link to an article about the battle going on in Thailand between Buddhists and (guess who?) Muslims. Buddhism is truly a religion of peace. But when you are interacting with someone who will only take advantage of you and never cooperate with you, or who will kill you if you let them, you are left with one choice: Fight back or be eliminated.

The Buddhists are choosing life. They are fighting back. I never thought I'd see the day.
In 2004, revered Queen Sirikit bluntly urged people to defend themselves, and she sponsors arms training programs that cater almost exclusively to Buddhists. After the attack on the van (where 8 Buddhists were ambushed in their van and killed) her military aide, Gen. Napon Bunthap, quoted her as saying: “We have to help people there to survive. If they need to be trained, train them. If they need to be armed, arm them.”
I applaud the Queen. They have a new Prime Minister in Thailand. The previous Prime Minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, was heavy-handed in his use of force, and he was, of course, criticized for it. "But Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont’s softer approach and offers of negotiation have also failed and the violence has worsened..." Duh. I could have told them that would happen.
The insurgency has claimed more than 2,000 deaths in the southernmost provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat, which are 80 percent Muslim in the otherwise Buddhist-majority country. The rebels have never made public demands, but are believed to favor separation from Buddhist-dominated Thailand to form an Islamic state.
Of course they are. Everywhere they can they will infiltrate, raise their numbers, and agitate for political control or a separate state. This is the essence of jihad.

Islam is a ratchet. It only goes one way.

6 comments:

Damien said...

Citizen Warrior,

Thanks for quoting the article I showed you.

Actually you shouldn't be that surprised, total pacifist faiths, or belief systems in general will always be rare and in the minority if you think about it.

Responding to a question I asked Greg Nyquist on his ACRN blog,

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The Amish are of course interesting in that they show that force doesn't always follow from faith. There is such a thing as faith in pacifism and non-aggression. But pacifistic Christianity is the exception rather than the rule. Over a long period of time, a kind of societal selection takes place favoring those groups that adopt modes of conducting themselves that work (or at work as well or better than their rivals). Pacifism doesn't work in the long term, which is why the major Christian traditions don't give a pacifistic interpretation to scripture.
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I think there is must be a similar reason when it comes to Buddhism. Their faith may preach pacifism but, if they practiced total pacifism they could not be a major world faith, since for one thing, they would always need the protection of non Buddhists to survive in the long run. I can tell you with one hundred percent certainty that Thailand has fought wars in the past, as have all states that are not protected by a much larger more powerful states. Pacifists need someone else to protect them in the long run in order to survive, doing the very thing they refuse to do. Besides, what about the shaolin_Monks? They are obviously not total pacifists. I suspect that average Buddhist would tell you that there are cases when you can take another person's life in self defense without committing an evil act. Buddhism could never

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Damien said...

By the way, those words in the bold, are Greg's response to my question, I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear. I did not write them, he did. I just quoted him.

Citizen Warrior said...

I was thinking along the same lines. If you have some Buddhists who refuse to defend themselves and another group of Buddhists willing to defend themselves, after a thousand years you'll have a lot more of the second group than the first. Natural selection.

Anonymous said...

How Buddhists should deal with hijackers:

According to one of the Jataka Tales, in a previous life the Buddha was a ship's captain with 500 passengers on board. He discovered that one of the passengers was the pirate Dung Thungchen (Blackspear) who was planning to wreck the ship. The Buddha killed him. http://www.animalsavingtrust.org/deer.htm