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Friday, January 16, 2009

Great Moments In The History Of Moderate Islam

Turkey is often held up as the example of the success of moderation in Islam. And, Mr. Erdogan, as it's leader, is said to be a veritable visionary of Islamic tolerance.

Turkish PM Erdogan: Bar Israel from UN over Gaza offensive

He also proclaims that the world's media is controlled by Jews.

Turkey's prime minister on Friday said Israel should be barred from the United Nations while it ignores the body's calls to stop fighting in Gaza. 

"How is such a country, which does not implement resolutions of the UN 
Security Council, allowed to enter through the gates of the UN (headquarters)?" Recep Tayyip Erdogan said. 


Erdogan accused Israel of attacking civilians under the pretext of targeting the Islamic militant group of Hamas. 

Erdogan has previously defended his outspoken criticism of Israel's Gaza offensive, saying it did not mean he was anti-Semitic. However, the Turkish prime minister also remarked that the "Jewish-backed media" was falsely suggesting that Hamas uses civilians as human shields in the Gaza Strip. 



One would be tempted to question whether there are any moderate Muslims at all.
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9 Comments:

Anonymous Total said...

I don't think he should be one to talk given Turkey's experiences in the human rights department. Hell, if anyone should be kicked out of the UN, it should be Turkey. They are still unapologetic and in denial over the systematic killings and atrocities they inflicted on the Armenians in 1915. That act of genocide was the first of the 20th century and set the precedent of things to come. I believe it's a crime in Turkey to even mention the Armenian genocide or denounce the government for its actions.

Friday, January 16, 2009 8:10:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The moderate mosques are our moderate barracks, the moderate domes our moderate helmets, the moderate minarets our moderate bayonets and the moderate faithful our moderate soldiers..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2270642.stm

Friday, January 16, 2009 8:25:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

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Friday, January 16, 2009 8:47:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

Total,

I've heard that as well. I don't know much about the Armenian genocide, but I heard somewhere that Hitler used it for inspiration.

Friday, January 16, 2009 9:02:00 pm  
Blogger andre79 said...

Turkey is making painful to their islamic population, remember "Allah will punish Israel" from few days ago. However Turkey is an important partner for us and vice-versa. I could elaborate and point the obvious but there are a lot of moonbats flying around. I wouldn't blame Turkey so eagerly.

Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:15:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

So, you think Erdogan is just playing to the "Arab Street"?

Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:16:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see. So any political opposition to Israel's military automatically constitute's one a fanatical Muslim? Based on that rule, the world must be absolutely full of fanatical muslims.

And do I really need to point out the hyprocisy of this particular site accusing anyone or anything of a lack of moderation?

Surveys have revealed as many as 40% of US citizens at times dissaproving of Israel's military actions. Are they all muslim fanatics?

After the United States, Turkey is one of the few friendly nations toward Israel. Having gone so far as to coordinate military exercises and training between the two nations at times.

As well, being the only other democratically elected government in the region, I say they reserve the right to critique, without being accused of fanaticism or anti-semitism.

Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:41:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
You make a good point.

So, what is the rational critique?

Erdogan condemned Israel with a few vague sentences.

Be specific, and give us the rational critique.

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:33:00 am  
Blogger andre79 said...

There are some interesting updates on EOZ

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2009/01/palarab-press-roundup-11709.html

especially this one about Turkey

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ar|en&u=http://fpnp.net/arabic/%3Faction%3Ddetail%26id%3D17103&tbb=1

Turkey has a uneasy alliance with the Islamic party being in majority over the seculars. However they have a lot to lose if they turn too violent. Greece, Cyprus and Bulgaria (I think) protested on Turkey admission in the EU, also their industry is reliant on tourism a lot. Remember the terrorist attacks from Egypt years ago on foreign tourists. They lost about 10-20% of the country revenue because for several years no tourist will come to Egypt. Also in the case of Turkey not forget that "the Arab street" will happy put all Turkey under the scimitar because of hundred of years occupation under the Ottomans. That aside, Turkey's words ARE very harsh.

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:32:00 am  

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