A carefully penetrating editorial (penetrating Muslim ass, that is) from the Stogmeister:
If ever there were an unjust cause, it is the cause of Muslims attempting to steal Israel from its rightful owners, the Jews. Back in 1947 when the allied powers ceded a small slice of desert to the Jews, the Jews called the small plot "Israel." They were immediately attacked by the surrounding Muslim countries who quickly got their asses handed to them. In fact, every time the Muslims attacked, Israel only got bigger. After the 1967 war there was a popular saying: "Visit Israel and see the pyramids!"
The Muslims who want to steal the Jewish homeland call themselves "Palestinians." It's an Arabic word for squatters. The Palestinians think they are entitled to the land since their ancestors successfully stole it centuries ago. That's back when Muslim hordes were gobbling up great swaths of land owned by Christians and Jews; they could do this because their big fat prophet told them they could. They should have asked my prophet; he would have flipped them the bird. Yes, you Muslims, my prophet can whip your prophet any day of the week.
Muslims just hate it when land they successfully stole has been taken back. They are still pissed off about Spain, which they like to call "Andalusia." They conquered it and ruled it for a few centuries until the local inhabitants had enough and kicked them out. Islamic conquest is not necessarily a permanent condition. The Greeks also rebelled and threw out their Muslim conquerers. What nerve. Don't they realize that Allah gave their country to the Muslims? Non-Muslims should just shut up and die as they are interfering with Allah's plan.
Sorry Muzzies, but we just don't agree. We think your big fat prophet was a phony and your evil god doesn't even exist. Well maybe, but by his other name, i.e. Lucifer.
Muslims have been attacking other people for centuries and are just outraged when anyone resists. Now they are busily infiltrating and subverting the West, so that we see crowds of idiots in those awful fish hook designs walking around with their heads well wrapped looking as serious as a heart attack and as uncomfortable as a case of hemorrhoids. You see them carrying signs calling the Israelis "murderers" and accusing them of "war crimes." You have to understand the language difference, however. "Murderer" in Arabic means "anyone who resists Islamic aggression" and "war crimes" means "anyone who fights back when Muslims attack."
Of course, there are our usual home-grown morons called Leftists, like International Answer, a communist organization who always supports everything evil and opposes everything good. Which probably explains why they support communism, since it completely eradicates human freedom and prosperity. Now they are supporting the murderous Muslims because, well, because they kill people and conquer people and blow up buildings and busses and pizza parlors and otherwise make nuisances of themselves. Commies like people who share their values. It's understandable, I guess.
Ignore the head-wrapped, fish-hook design-wearing morons with their nasty little signs. It's time we got in their faces and told them the truth: that their crappy religion is an evil joke, that we are not fooled by their lies, that we will never accept head scarfs when baseball caps are available. And as long as they are going to hate Jews, plot to commit terrorist acts and plan to replace democracy with Sharia, they have no place in the West and need to relocate to the desert shit hole of their choice.
While we're on the subject, some other things we need to make clear: Israel belongs to the Jews not the Muslims. Get the hell out of Israel and do it now. After sixty years we hoped you would get the hint by now but some people just aren't sensitive enough to pick up on subtle clues. I guess it's time we were more direct, which probably explains the Israeli troops on the Gaza border.
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Lol, I like it. Thanks to successive Arab aggression Israel has become 60% larger. It was THEIR military incompetence and stupidity, THEIR Russian planes and tanks, THEIR armies and mercenaries. They keep bleating about the US help to Israel but fall silent about the Russian technology they had. Lol, in '73 the Russian Migs were still the best fighter planes around and what the Arabs did with them? And next is even more funny: they blame the enemy because they lost. Quite surprisingly the enemy fought back, kick them in the teeth and did everything an enemy was not supposed to do. What a bunch of cry-baby mofos.
Thanks for this blog. It's a good illustration of why the U.S. must be neutral in the Middle East between the two genocidal gangs bent on wiping each other out.
Guess.
Genocidal as in IDF reaches Damascus and turns back?
Then, I'm guessing you have evidence that Israel is a genocidal state.
Res ipsa loquitur, baby.
I'm too stupid to know what that means.
So, what European Ethnic Nationalist party do you advocate for?
I'm too stupid to know what that means.
How unfortunate for you.
So, what European Ethnic Nationalist party do you advocate for?
The Likud, of course.
I think those Americans who aren't part of the AIPAC Bund (i.e., 98.5% of us) have had just about enough of your games. We're fine with Jews as Jews, but we do want to keep out of your tribal religious land wars on the other side of the world.
And we do with your organizations would cease being foreign agents that harbor spies. Thank you.
I'm not Jewish, dude.
Well, there are also the far-right wing christian fanatics who subscribe to the "End Times" heresies that require Israel to exist before ol' Jesus H. can come back.
Here's some stuff for you to get off on (all from Hamas' official Charter):
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
Anonymous,
Try as you might, you're not going to nail me:
What Does CUANAS Mean?
CUANAS is "Christians United Against the New Anti-Semitism"; a non-apocalyptic group of Christian Zionists who are apalled by the spread of anti-Semitism in the modern world, and are endeavoring to do something about it. Some of our members are in other countries working to foster better relationships between Christians and Jews, while some of us work to make this blog a source of information about the new anti-Semitism and it's effects.
Our goal is two-fold:
1) To educate Christians and non-Christians alike that anti-Semitism is once again rearing it's ugly head in our world.
2) To let Jewish people know that there are Christians out there, who are interested in helping, and who do not merely see Jewish people as the key needed to unlock the door leading to the apocalypse, and the return of Christ.
We hope we do good work.
http://cuanas.blogspot.com/2004/12/what-does-cuanas-mean-cuanas-is.html
So, like I asked before, which European Ethnic Nationalist party do you advocate for?
Nice little disinfo campaign you've got going there!
So, how do those excerpts from the Hamas Charter make you feel, bro? Did you dig them? You like hearing about Jews being killed to herald the End Times?
Thanks for this blog. It's a good illustration of why the U.S. must be neutral in the Middle East between the two genocidal gangs bent on wiping each other out.
It sounds as if you are arguing that there is absolute moral equivalence between Israel and the governments of the Palestinians (Fatah and Hamas).
That is a tremendous conflation of facts. It betrays an inability, on your part, to make distinctions.
Israel is a Democracy.
Gaza is thugocracy.
Israel supports human rights.
Gaza approved supports crucifixion, and death to homosexuals and apostates.
Israel has a mixed population of people from all parts of the world.
Gaza is Palestinian. In fact, they insisted that all Jews be removed from Gaza.
Israel is a thriving economy.
Gaza produces almost nothing.
Israel is a hub for technological, and biotechnological innovation.
Once again, Gaza produces almost nothing.
You see, "Pastorius," unlike you I know what being an American is. I don't have to take sides in a war that doesn't involve me. I don't have to support one gang against another. I don't have to become involved in anyone's religious fanatacism.
I did a little Googling, and see that you are involved in Republican causes. Well, I am a far better Republican that you will ever dream of being. I actually know what George Washington said in his farewell address, and take it to heart.
This country has absolutely no interest whatsoever in inserting itself between Israelis and Arabs who hate each other's guts and are bent on wiping each other out. It is not our problem. We should stay then hell out, and not supply either side.
In short, we should be Americans, and mind our own business. Period.
By the way, if Israel is a thriving economy and Gaza produces nothing, then Israel should have no problem with its war. Isn't it about time that the U.S. stopped sending money to Israel, then? Let them fight their own battles. Why in hell should we be involved? And, just for grins, it might be worth remembering that Hamas was elected in Gaza, which means you've got two democracies duking it out.
Let 'em go for it. There is only one thing of interest to the U.S. in that part of the world: oil. And if we had half a brain, that wouldn't be for too long because there are all kinds of other ways to generate energy. In any case, there is no need to put American lives and security on the line for 5.5 million Israeli Jews who can't get along with their neighbors.
Let them solve their own problems.
Anonymous,
You said: Isn't it about time that the U.S. stopped sending money to Israel, then?
I said: That seems reasonable to me. I don't think it's a good idea for Israel to be dependent on American aid.
You said: And, just for grins, it might be worth remembering that Hamas was elected in Gaza, which means you've got two democracies duking it out.
I said: Yep, the Gazans elected a government, by a majority, which is more evil, in it's stated goals, than was the Nazi government at the time it was elected.
But, you and I both know that when we use the word Democracy, we mean a Democratic Republic whose foundational ideas support Human Rights, and are protected by a Constitution.
That is not what Gaza is.
You said: there is no need to put American lives and security on the line for 5.5 million Israeli Jews who can't get along with their neighbors.
I say: There are two assertions there. One is that we do put our lives on the line for Israel, which is not true. The second is that Jews can't get along with their neighbors. That's an asinine assertion. Where in the world do any peoples who get along with their Muslim neighbors?
Anonymous
Remember the America First Committee organized to keep America out of foreign entanlgments. They were believers in GW to.
Their 1940 charter read:
* The United States must build an impregnable defense for America. (That didn't work out so well. Remember Pearl Harbor and 9/11. A determined enemy that hates you will get to you.)
* No foreign power, nor group of powers, can successfully attack a prepared America. (see #1)
* American democracy can be preserved only by keeping out of the European war. (Hitler declared war on us in Decmeber of '41 and started sinking our ships off our coast. So, we do nothing?)
* "Aid short of war" weakens national defense at home and threatens to involve America in war abroad. (Just the opposite. Showing weakness only emboldens an enemy. Learn your history.)
Based on your comments you might fit right into the New America First Committee.
Here's the first two points of their charter:
1. That all men are not created equal in mind or body and that this natural inequality among men and races is of Divine origin.
2. That the Natural Law governing all Human life is based on the maintenance of Racial Integrity and genetic heredity.
Sound familiar to you?
Anonymous,
You said: I don't have to take sides in a war that doesn't involve me.
I say: You and I see the world in a very different way. I believe we are in a war with Islamic Jihadists. This is not a nation against nation war. It is a war of transnational ideologies. Their side is represented by Wahabist and Salafist institutions, terror grousp, and governments, and our side is represented by America, Europe, Israel, Australia, Japan, Canada, and New Zealand.
We are in a war like WWII. We have allies.
Thing is, we are not truly committed to this war, at this point. From my perspective we should be. Waiting for full commitment will only mean that things will get much worse, before they get better.
Our U.S. Congress has told us on more than one occasion in the past seven years that it is inevitable that we will be hit by nuclear weapons. Inevitable.
The thing is, once that happens, then we will become committed. I believe it would be better for us to start that commitment now.
So, what you see as a war that has nothing to do with us, I see as a front in a worldwide war that began seven years ago.
That seems reasonable to me. I don't think it's a good idea for Israel to be dependent on American aid.
Okay, then we agree on something. No more U.S. aid for Israel. No money, no loan guarantees. How about an arms embargo, including spare parts, on both sides? They are belligerents, and we should stay out.
Where in the world do any peoples who get along with their Muslim neighbors?
Indonesia and Malaysia are Muslim nations, and they're not at war with anyone. Turkey is >90% Muslim, and they're not at war with anyone. The various former Soviet Republicans of Central Asia, the so-called "stans," are heavily Muslim and they're at peace with their neighbors.
Frankly, it's the Christian countries that historically have been some of the most violent. Only when they are restrained by secularism has that really changed very much. This blog all but calls for jihad against the Muslims. Maybe you should ask yourself what it is about fundamentalist Christians that makes your people so hateful.
I'm no fan of Islam. To me, it combines the worst features of fundamentalist Protestantism with the worst features of ancient orthodox Judaism. But your attempt to whip up hatred and use it to justify Israel's wars is ridiculous, and unAmerican as all hell.
We're not in any war with Islam. The neocon crazies who took over the Republican Party are bent on it, but there's no basic conflict between the U.S. and Islamic countries. There is a conflict between us and terrorists, which is similar to the conflict between civilized countries and pirates. That's the extent of it, with the big difference being that technology has improved the killing efficiency of rogue actors.
To inflate this into a religious war is outlandish, and calls into serious question the motives of those who seek to do it.
One more thing: Cut your self-righteous incantations and insinuations. I disdain Israel as much as I disdain the Arabs, but that doesn't make me an antisemite. You can keep calling me a Nazi if you want, but if you think it's going to intimidate me, you're mistaken. All it will do is cause me to lose what respect I might have had for you and your arguments.
Don't worry "Anonymous" you lost all that respect when you posted as "Anonymous" but keep it going, free speech is for everyone. (unless you criticize "the one" religion or "the one" person).
andre79, don't make me laugh. You post anonymously too. Come on, who is "andre79"? Would you feel better if I made up a sign-on? Would that earn your respect? If so, then you're a cheap date.
So, "andre79," please publish here your name, address, and phone number. If not, then shut up about anonymity.
Malaysia:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/022190.php
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=8002
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/3502.html
Indonesia:
http://www.centerforstrategicanalysis.org/christian_beheading_2_indonesia.jpg
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/222638.aspx
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/185018.php
Turkey:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/mar/29/turkey.books
http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1125666440.shtml
http://www.christianpersecution.info/news/turkey-church-facing-closure/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
Lol, thank you for the enlightenment. But as far as I know, the internet is full of wackos pretending they are something they aren't. If you want my phone number and full address that's a long stretch, dude, and not because you aren't my type (there's no amount of Chianti to convince me otherwise), but because I cannot differentiate your posts from other "anonymouses" posting here. Cheap date? Been there done that. Tuck your balls (if you have any) and create an identity as phony as you like and make my piece of mind. There were quite a few "Anonymous" posting here; I agree with some and I disagree with some. Which one are YOU? As for my "phony" profile it contains more personal info than yours, but I have a feeling none of us will lose too much sleep over it.
"Pastorius," your links have nothing to do with how well Turkey, Malaysia, or Indonesia get along with their neighbors.
andre79, you haven't identified yourself, and therefore you are no less anonymous than I am. All of the anonymous comments in this thread are mine. But, given that you have a fetish of some sort, I've made up a sign-on just for you.
I'm glad you read my above post, especially the second phrase. Allow me a wild guess:
A one state solution?
While I'm glad it worked quite well in Malaysia it didn't quite do so in Sudan, innit?
We should handle Israel and the Arabs like we handle the Nigerians. Do we give a shit which Nigerian tribe slaughters the other? Nope. Hell, we barely even know their names. We're there to pump oil. To me, the Arabs and the Israelis are two tribes who are fighting over a scrap of land. Big deal. Why should we care?
So, andre80, what's your take on the ongoing attacks in Southern Thailand and Southern Philippines that are supported by Islamic Caliphate networks based out of Indonesia and Malaysia?
And attacks by Indonesian Jihadists against the Christian population of East Timor and the Moluccas?
And Turkey's invasion and continuing occupation of northern Cyprus?
Andre80 is just a petty troll and a bully, if you can't take his identity seriously then don't bother with him and his comments. He's just a waste of time, save your energy.
Andre80,
The fact that you see no difference between Jews and Muslims is proof that your intellect perceives no nuance. It must be clouded by some kind of hatred or fear.
I've already given you a list of distinctions between Israel and Islamic states. You can't see them.
Hahaha. This post needs to be republished on hundreds, no, thousands, of blogs across the world. Thanks for posting.
"Pastorius," you're an evangelical Christian neocon fanatic of the kind that has taken over the Republican Party and run it into the ground. You don't know the first thing about what it means to be an American.
You want to take sides in a local religious war and turn it into a global religious war. The U.S. is a nation founded on a secular basis, and you would plunge it into a religious war over a scrap of land halfway around the world. The Founders didn't like your kind, and they put specific provisions in the Constitution to protect us and our institutions from the likes of you.
In a word: NO!
You're a funny man.
If you only knew what I do with my life, you'd be shocked.
Pastorius, Anon. aka andre80 is one of those slightly delusional people who think that if we leave everyone alone, they will leave us alone. That was possible in 1950, (maybe, if we didn't count the commies), but that is suicidal now with the rise of islam to some level of power. If our time machine could erase everything we've done for the Jews/Israel, we will/would still have a problem w/islam. If we stop all foreign entanglements today, we will still have a problem w/islam and the Jews/Israel would never ever bother us, they just want to be left alone. Peace w/islam is a pipe-dream, and Anon/andre80 is smoking something special in that pipe.
Hi Jaco, res ipsa loquitor means the thing speaks for itself, which is what pinheads say to confuse you, but I digress. I am going to agree with brave mr anonymous on one point, the one he wasn't trying to make, but I will make for him, and it is that we have got to butt out of Israel's ability to successfully defend herself. The US must stop dictating and butting into Israel's affairs. We have no business setting up peace treaties between sane governments and renegade genocidal lunatics. Mr. Anonymous is drearily wrong when it comes to morally equating 'two genocidal parties', but as his name implies, he's a big fraidy cat. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, it could have done so, and improved the middle east by ridding the world of a billion muslims. Alas, we have to contend with them yet, precisely because of their love of CHAI, or life...not tea....although I suspect they like that almost as much as their murderous Muslim neighbors. So much in common, so little common decency.
Hi Jaco, res ipsa loquitor means the thing speaks for itself, which is what pinheads say to confuse you, but I digress.
O'Leilly, is that you?
If Israel wanted to commit genocide, it could have done so, and improved the middle east by ridding the world of a billion muslims.
Nice to see the evangelical Christians and their religion of "peace."
If you only knew what I do with my life, you'd be shocked.
Look, I wasn't shocked by Ted Haggard, so I won't be shocked by you. Don't worry. It's okay. Everyone has their needs.
andre80 said...
If Israel wanted to commit genocide, it could have done so....
Nice to see the evangelical Christians and their religion of "peace."
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Israel is an evangelical Christian nation? Read the post, comment w/logic instead of non-sequiturs.
And try not to attack the messenger.
I am not sure what evangelism has to do with my above post andre80, but we are talking about survival. We didn't declare this war, and we really haven't the courage to identify the enemy, at least the officials running or ruining the country haven't yet, and that is because they are full of their own superior intellect and goodness and power, they don't see the obvious. They believe, as fools always do who are in these positions, that they can write up a form, have everyone sign it for the cameras, and voila...reality will cooperate with their fantasies. Sooner or later, as it is in Israel, and as it is becoming in Europe, the muslims will feel strong enough to begin waging their unholy war on neighborhoods. Do you not understand that? It isn't an army with tanks and a banner, and a definitive frontline. We are in the frontlines right now. Shall we not wage this war with attrition in mind, then? Should we sit back and wait for an army to rescue us, but never comes? Byzantium waited and is lost forever. The evangelical Christian can wage the war without bombs by praying fervently for the courage to speak truthfully and denouncing the hideous lies of Islam and its prophet and false god, and know he will get killed for it. Or the secularist can reasonably say why he doesn't believe in the existence of any deity....and get killed for it, though he believes his ability to reason with the lunatics of Islam will persuade them not to cut off his head. Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl realized too late, that there is no negotiating with the Peaceful Sons of Allah.
And I don't know where you get your news from, but the coverage is pro Hamas, so for all their power, the evil Zionists can't seem to control the press you think they control.
I see that your friend Billy "Mr. Saturday Night" Kristol of The New York Times thinks that Israel will succeed in Gaza. Given Billy's track record, if I were you I'd be very worried.
andre80 said...
...doesn't mean the world as "at war with Islam."
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"Well, islam is fighting the whole world a few at a time," is what I added to that comment. They are at war, most non-muslims are too stupid to know it.
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Jewel said...
If Israel wanted to commit genocide, it could have done so....
(which is a statement of fact)
andre80 said...
Nice to see the evangelical Christians and their religion of "peace." right after the comment about what Israel could do. The implication is Israel is evan. Christian since you made no reference to Jewel and don't know Jewel personally at all.
My bad.
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I have read both the koran and the Bible. Two radically different books about two radically different
gods/Gods and precious little in common.
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andre80 said...
Do you listen to the Christian ministers? A week after 9/11, the two most popular televangelists in the United States aligned themselves with Osama bin Laden, saying the attacks were God's punishment.
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Heard them when they said it originally. I don't remember them saying anything like aligning themselves with OBL and saying he had done a good and wonderful thing. What they said was their perception (right or wrong) of the cause for the attack.
You read a little too much into it. Tell me the minute count where they praise OBL and agree with the attack and I'll watch the vid again. But I don't think you'll find it if for no other reason than OBL took a little longer than 2 days to get on radar.
I don't remember them saying anything like aligning themselves with OBL and saying he had done a good and wonderful thing. What they said was their perception (right or wrong) of the cause for the attack.
You read a little too much into it.
There was no need to read anything into what they said. The two Christian leaders, "whether they were right or wrong," took Bin Laden's side in saying that the U.S. deserved the attacks and that they were ordained by God.
Your ministers are no better than theirs. The only difference is that, in the West, the excesses of Christianity are held at bay by a strongly-rooted secular tradition. If left to their devices, Christian ministers would act no differently than imams.
I have read both the koran and the Bible. Two radically different books about two radically different
gods/Gods and precious little in common.
Given that gods are a human invention, it all comes down to a duel among humans. I see no inherent conflict between Islam and the U.S. The Jews have a conflict with them to the extent that they're bumping up against them in the Middle East, but that's not my affair.
The Europeans are also bumping up against the Muslims, mainly as a consequence of their colonial past. It's a pretty good advertisement to refrain from colonialism.
andre80 said
Given that gods are a human invention.....
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We differ on that opinion but we both will live/die w/our opinions. One of us will be wrong.
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Your ministers are no better than theirs....
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There is no moral equivalency between islam and Christianity. If you look at what the overwhelming majority of the followers of each do, and what the tenets of each religion are, there is a distinct difference. Generally you see compassion from Christians and none from muslims. muslims won't even send aid to fellow muslims in times of natural disaster.
As the muslims continue to assault the civilized world we will all get to see their wonderful religion of peace in action. It looks like they will prevail, since no one wants to try to stop them. They are looking for their 12th imam (with or w/o the nation of Israel as an excuse) and for islam to rule the world and are doing everything they can to make it happen. We aren't going to be able to say 'My bad' and throw Israel under the bus and then see it all be honky dory between us and the muslims.
I'm not saying you jews shouldn't be jews, it's not like it's your fault.
Just please get out of Palestine, go somewhere where you're not hated for once.
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