Monday, January 12, 2009

Vlaams Belang Is Right On This One


From Jihad Watch:

The Flemish Parliament voted a resolution condemning the "disproportionate" violence of Israel in Gaza.

The resolution was approved by all the parties, those of the government coalition as well as of the opposition, except for two members of the Liberal Party who abstained, and the Vlaams Belang which voted against the resolution.

UPDATE: Vlaams Belang calls for a special meeting of the [Antwerp] city council to discuss the riots and AEL demonstration. (hat tip Baron)

Vlaams Belang demands an explanation from the Mayor and the Chief of Police on the serious incidents that occurred. They also want to know why there was nothing done about banners saying "Joden Buiten" ["Jews Out"], "Osama we need you" and "Jihad, yes we can".


There is no room for this Jihadist instigation, and Jew-hatred, here in the Western world. If the mainstream political parties will do nothing, then the people will go with the party which represents their wishes on this very important issue. 

The Jihadist's goal is the overthrow of Western Civilization, and the replacement of the governments of our various nations with Sharia law. The Jihadists are an existential threat to our way of life.

An existential threat is, clearly, more important than who is going to provide welfare payments and healthcare. It is much more important than all the strange arcana which makes up the EU Constitution. 

It's do or die, and the mainstream political parties of Europe are arguing over obscure bullshit. And thus, parties like the Vlaams Belang will take the reins, and Europe will, in my estimation, once again have dug it's own grave.

The reality is, Europeans Jew-hatred has merely been sublimated. It has not disappeared. The Europeans side with the Jihadists because the Jihadists will finish the task the Europeans were not able to accomplish using Hitler. The Jihadists are more than willing. 

And now, the Nationalist parties like the BNP, VB, the Front National, and the Lega Nord, are banding together and falling all over themselves to support, what I believe they perceive to be, the Ethnic Nationalist state of Israel.

This suits the sublimated Jew-hating mechanism of the Europeans just fine. The left hand doesn't have to know what the right hand is doing. And besides, the Nationalists like Israel. 

Send the Jews to Israel the right will say. The left will say, Israel doesn't belong the Jews.

Can you imagine?

What would Theodore Herschel have to say about that?

But, for now, all's well. The Vlaams Belang likes the Jews. 

No, really.

22 comments:

Damien said...

Pastorius,

You said,
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The reality is, Europeans Jew-hatred has merely been sublimated. It has not disappeared. The Europeans side with the Jihadists because the Jihadists will finish the task the Europeans were not able to accomplish using Hitler. The Jihadists are more than willing.
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To a degree that is true, unfortunately. However, what many European antisemitism don't realize is that the Jihadist are done with the Jews, they maybe next.

But not as many Americas support Israel as some might suspect and I don't think it has entirely to do with antisemitism although I certainly don't think their lack of support is justified. The same is probably true for Europe.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
You don't believe the lack of support Americans are showing for Israel has to do with anti-Semitism.

I say, in the coming months I think we will start to see the cards laid on the table.

And then we will find out who the Jew-haters are. We might find there are a lot more than we think.

On the other hand, if Israel shuts down this war as they did the Hizbollah war, then things will just go quiet for awhile.

Until the next time Jewish people have to defend themselves.

Bobby Coggins said...

The criminalization of Vlaams Belang by some people has been criminal. It has given the jihadis Aid & Comfort, and hope that they can divide us whilst they conquer.

But that can wait until after we win the war against the 3rd great Jihad...

Anonymous said...

The European nationalists are slowly moving away from old fashioned ethno-nationalism towards European cultural nationalism and the need to defend Judeo-Christian civilisation against all the barbarities of multiculturalism.

Rolf Krake said...

"It's do or die, and the mainstream political parties of Europe are arguing over obscure bullshit. And thus, parties like the Vlaams Belang will take the reins, and Europe will, in my estimation, once again have dug it's own grave.

The reality is, Europeans Jew-hatred has merely been sublimated. It has not disappeared. The Europeans side with the Jihadists because the Jihadists will finish the task the Europeans were not able to accomplish using Hitler. The Jihadists are more than willing.

And now, the Nationalist parties like the BNP, VB, the Front National, and the Lega Nord, are banding together and falling all over themselves to support, what I believe they perceive to be, the Ethnic Nationalist state of Israel."

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It is a sad notion towards the political situation in Europe, VB is Pro-Israeli and NOT antisemitic.
Antwerp has got one of the biggest Jewish communities in Europe, and had so historically, plus prominent members of VB are Jews.

Such painting is not helping at all the situation in Europe where the élite´is selling us out to islam, the situation in Belgium is even more complex having Brussels as ´the capital of Europe´, and VB is a seperatist movement working for an independent Vlandres.

It should be clear by now who the enemies from within are, those who in reality is repeating history, the left, which we can refer to as the ´Transnational Socialists´, and the EUssr, whom VB opposes.

Left and right is no longer a valid notion and in my opinion outdated - Rather it is ´Realists and Utopists´.

The EU is dissolving our nationstates in a coup d'etat in slowmotion, the Communist internationale in a new disguise.

FN is another matter and BNP too, though BNP starts to clean out the rotten eggs it has a way to go yet.

We, the People of Europe, are up against the wall, if we want to preserve our cultures and nation states we are villified as ´Nationalists´, the old Communist argument against their opponents, and it has been hammered into people as being a negative label and evil, so what is good then, being against the existence of our own countries? - And to qoute Walid Shoebat - "It always started with the Jews but it NEVER ends with the Jews"

So true, and we are next in line.

Always On Watch said...

Pastorius,
And then we will find out who the Jew-haters are. We might find there are a lot more than we think.

I agree.

The rest of my comment doesn't directly relate to this post, but is worth noting, nonetheless.

Yesterday, the WaPo ran an article about the rise of the hate groups. The title of that article is "Bad Economy May Fuel Hate Groups, Experts Warn: Experts Warn That Downturn Could Drive Discontent, Help Extremists Recruit."

The article's title provides the basic premise of the article.

There was also this portion in the article:

"These three things -- the Internet, immigration and the economic crisis -- that is the molten mixture for these guys," said Cavanaugh, who leads the ATF's Nashville office. "That is the furnace of hate. As we speak, this is happening."

In recent years, the racist hate movement has veered away from large-scale, Klan-type gatherings as many of its most prominent leaders died, went to prison or buckled under personal and financial troubles, according to scholar Brian Levin. Instead, followers come together online at Web sites such as Stormfront.org, which attracts an estimated 150,000 registered users who view instruction manuals, learn movement history and exchange stories.

The Stormfront site allows users to share information about birthdays, dating preferences and "white nationalist demonstrations," as well as self-defense tips. One recent day a headline about Jewish fund manager Bernard Madoff, the alleged mastermind of a $50 billion Ponzi investment scheme, ran across the top of the site.


To my knowledge, not one word has yet appeared in the WaPo as to the surge in anti-Semitism in Europe.

But daily the WaPo shills for Hamas. And, of course, Time Magazine recently had a cover headline which blared out "Why Israel Can't Win."

In other words, the mainstream media right now are fueling anti-Semitism as Israel is blamed for self-defensive attacks against Gaza and the recent rise in gasoline prices.

Historically, during difficult economic times, Jews are painted as villains and even the cause of the economic problems.

Pastorius said...

Rolf,
I could be wrong. You may be right. That's why I think the format of a group blog is very worthwhile. You express your opinion, and I express mine, and hopefully, over time, we work towards the truth.

Keep doing what your doing. I think what you are doing is very important.

Pastorius said...

AOW,
Yes, it looks to me as if we are seeing the beginning of a perfect storm of anti-Semitism.

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
You said: The European nationalists are slowly moving away from old fashioned ethno-nationalism towards European cultural nationalism and the need to defend Judeo-Christian civilisation against all the barbarities of multiculturalism.


I say: I hope so. I would rather be wrong about the Vlaams Belang. As I've said before, I don't believe racists just suddenly become racist without a paradigm-shifting experience, like Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus.

The fact that the DeWinter has never explained to us how this paradigm-shift has occurred in his life makes me think there has been no fundamental change, but instead just a strategic change.

That may be good enough for some people, but I wonder what happens to the Jews once a party like the VB gains power.

Certainly, the Jews have not fit well into the worldview of the VB and Front National in the past. So, why now, all of the sudden?

Rolf Krake said...

Yes Pastorius, the reality and the truth isn´t always transparent or evident at first.

The fog of war and deceit, propaganda and counter propaganda.

Indeed we never stop to discover and to learn, that is what makes us strong and our biggest asset.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

you said,
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I hope so. I would rather be wrong about the Vlaams Belang. As I've said before, I don't believe racists just suddenly become racist without a paradigm-shifting experience, like Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus.
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Unfortunately the same tends to be true for Jihadists as well. That's why we have to severally limit immigration from Islamic countries, unless their societies one day embrace democracy and freedom of religion, and denounce, terrorism, jihad, and Sharia.

Pastorius said...

Very true, Damien.

And, when Jihadists tell us that suddenly they have become "moderates", we do not believe them, do we?

jeppo said...

I had to laugh when I saw the photo accompanying this post. "Zonder Jihad Straat" means No Jihad Street, and when the VB launched this campaign in May 2007, guess who was praising them for it?

Pastorius wrote: "I wonder what happens to the Jews once a party like the VB gains power." I think the real question is, what happens to the Jews if the VB *never* gains power? I have my doubts that the Jewish community in Flanders can long survive when the entire political establishment, excepting only the VB, is staunchly pro-Muslim and anti-Zionist. Please tell me who the Jews of Flanders should vote for if not the VB?

Also I think you meant Theodor Herzl, not Theodore Herschel, the father of political Zionism and the author of the foundational book "Der Judenstaat".

Pastorius said...

Jeppo,
Jeez, I mispelled Herzl's name.

Fucking embarrassing.

I've actually never read about Herzl, except for in a book called The Case for Israel by Dershowitz.

One thing a lot of people don't know is I'm NOT Jewish. And, I don't really spend that much time learning about Jewish history.

I do this stuff because I believe it is the morally RIGHT thing to do.

So anyway, thanks for correcting me.

By the way, the question you posed about the VB is very resonant. The governments of Europe, the political parties, the various institutions, including the police in most cases, are not doing shit. In fact, in many ways, they are making the situation even worse.

Damien said...

Pastorius

you said,
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Very true, Damien.

And, when Jihadists tell us that suddenly they have become "moderates", we do not believe them, do we?
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No we don't and for good reason. If they want us to believe they have learned the error of their ways, they must prove it.

jeppo said...

Thanks for posting this BTW Pastorius. I know you're no fan of the VB, but you're a fair-minded person and felt that they deserved praise in this instance. Other opponents of the VB I can think of would NEVER do such a thing, merely out of spiteful pride. You might not be Jewish, but you're definitely a mensch.

Pastorius said...

The reason I bring up that I'm not Jewish is that because of the fact that I spend so much time defending Jews and Israel, people think I that I must be Jewish, or that I have spent a lot of time studying the Holocaust, or whatever.

Nope. I haven't.

For God's sake, I haven't ever even seen Schindler's List.

Thing is, I am a somewhat naiive person. I always believed that our society was on board with protecting Jews when we said, "Never again."

I believed it.

When, in 2002, the Jenin situation made me aware that we were all a bunch of liars, I decided to add my voice to the mix. Because, simply put, I won't be a party to that lie.

Pastorius said...

And, that probably has a lot to do with why I'm no fan of the VB. A good friend of mine used to live in Belgium and she told me of watching the VB march in the streets with anti-Semitic placards and chants against the Jews.

As I said, they'd have to have undergone a profound shift in values to have changed from the political party she witnessed and related to me.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

If you ever have the time you should watch Schindler's List. Its a good movie, although its hard to watch, its still worth it.

Pastorius said...

Thank, Damien, but I think I'll pass.

Epaminondas said...

Pastorius is right.
Also about Schindler's List.

Many years ago in junior high, I watched The Pawnbroker, and it was so harrowing, I vowed to never again watch a holocaust movie.

I know what happened.
Rubbing my consciousness in it changes nothing.

Pastorius said...

I had a lot of Jewish friends growing up. I know more many people whose families were directly effected by the Holocaust.

The effects could be measured in the aunts, uncles, and grandparents I never met.

I know a man who calls himself a Mexican, even though he's a German Jew, because he grew up in Mexico, having fled Germany in the late 30's.

It's a very direct connection for me.