Going to the Country, Where I'm Gonna Be Resting
A Personal Note to my Readers
by Phyllis Chesler
August 12, 2011
I may not be writing any articles until September because, as of tomorrow, I leave for a vacation. I plan to practice "not working." I may not be capable of this—but if I must, I hope to do my reading and writing outdoors, under the high, blue heavens with a view of a mountain peak or two.
We live in Orwellian and apocalyptic times, My vision, and the themes that I first began writing about in 2001, (anti-Semitism, Islamic gender and religious apartheid, the global demonization of Israel, hate speech=free speech, jihad rising, etc.), have continued to gain momentum.
Others are now saying what only I was saying back in 2001-2004. This is a good thing—except some are vulgar amateurs and hysterics; some mostly crave attention and money. Some are dangerous racists and they come in all colors and faiths and in both genders. Others still have high standards but are now reduced to repeating themselves incessantly, spinning their every wheel. Still others insist on reinventing the wheel. Increasingly, a small cadre of Israel and anti-jihad advocates are brilliant at putting out fires.
But, we are still unable to prevent the fires from breaking out. Except for the failed flotilla and other unknown missions, we pundits have not successfully engaged in large pre-emptive actions. As I said last year, we need the equivalent of a stuxnet virus to deal with the propaganda wars on the internet. We do not have that nor have we breached the walls of the mainstream media. On the contrary. Now Al Jazeera has opened in English on the Time Warner airwaves. I have watched several programs. They were good: interesting, well done. How soon before the filth begins? We shall see. Maybe it won't, maybe their era of Big Lies is finally over.
And then there is the potential Holocaust ever-poised to engulf Israel. Now, the excellent Guilio Meotti has joined me in this "madness." Some Jews and many more Christians have seen this tragic possibility, most have not.
This summer I also published the 25th anniversary edition of "Mothers on Trial. The Battle for Children and Custody" with eight new chapters. It remains a classic work, and I have now brought it into the 21st century. Already, I am overwhelmed by letters from mothers who are undergoing what I call "legal torture" and whose precious children are at serious risk. (Yes, good fathers are also discriminated against by the same system; however, violent husbands and abusive fathers still manage to use the legal system to turn the screws even tighter against their own families).
Thus, my work continues to straddle both sides of the aisle. This should be rewarded. In our world, it is punished and held suspect.
This is also the year in which I had major spinal surgery. It was totally successful, my surgeon is a genius at what he does. Thus, I am no longer in constant agony or extreme pain. This is a great blessing. My recovery will be a long and uphill road but it is one that I am eager to travel.
Enjoy the rest of August. You will be hearing from me upon my return.
All best,
Phyllis
Saturday, August 13, 2011
Phyllis Chesler Taking A Break
Her announcement, which may be of interest to some here (emphases mine):
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Chelser made a name for herself over women's rights and supporting family abuse. She was very strong in that respect and earned a great level of respect for it.
Then she started going off-the-wall. She produced a document about "honor-killing" and said it was mostly Islamic and provided statistics to prove it. The problem was that she cut & pasted statistics, ignored those items that proved that it was a global problem, cultural, social and yes certainly in many Muslim countries but that it was in many places (even with higher numbers) in non-Muslim countries. We must ask why she did that? She lost respect from many of her original supporters, most particularly the woman's rights movement in general.
References, here item http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/764/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
At the end of the item she in fact admitted to the limitations and what academics would call a failure.
“This study analyzes 172 incidents and 230 honor-killing victims. The information was obtained from the English-language media around the world with one exception. There were 100 victims murdered for honor in the West, including 33 in North America and 67 in Europe. There were 130 additional victims in the Muslim world. Most of the perpetrators were Muslims, as were their victims, and most of the victims were women.”
Somehow her limited selection, lack of any official references and "chosing" what to report was good enough for her......
What a sad case.
Damien Charles,
Just as at my site, I found your comments in Blogger's spam folder. Why? I have no clue!
Anyway, I have published your comment to this thread.
Is D.C. a Mohammedan?
He uses the same arguments that the Mohammedans themselves always fall back on when confronted with the inherent evilness of their doctrine.
Others do it or have done it so what?
It is immaterial that enslavement, torture and murder have occurred and are occurring elsewhere.
That doesn't change the fact that their sacred writings COMMAND such behavior in regards to resisting infidels or apostates from their own doctrine PERIOD!
Making excuses for this doctrine is wicked and those who do so are communing with Satan whether they know it or not.
cjk,
No I am not. Also I do not "defend" Islam. I point out inacuracies, assumptions, basic falseness and even malicious lies. The point is I see many of them directed towards Islam and so I find it necessary to respond, simply because it makes arguments look not only stupid but it DESTROYS the credibility of any correct arguments.
The big ones which are correct is why do we not see moderate Muslims defend themselves or attack the radical arguments and actions? Why is it that there are even governments out there that neither defending the faith or attacking the radicals? Why is it that there is tolerance to radical Muslim groups in the West who push at the minimum anti-integration and supporting foreign leadership?
Your argument, such as "it is in their writings" is in fact an example of one of those that does not make sense. There is just as much "such orders and commands" in The Bible and I am not suprised that a reasonably intelligent Muslim does not go and point out that there is in fact more examples.
Does that stop me from being a Christian and a faithful Catholic, no. What it does tell me is how yet again, Muslims do not bother to point out the realities, defend themselves against rediculous arguments like the one you gave and at the same time totally condemn those that use it as an excuse to conduct attrocities.
Show me any command to do any such thing in the New Testament.
While there are some seemingly evil commands to destroy individual peoples in the Bible they are specific and not open ended.
They were directed towards the Nation of Israel only.
These sparse examples are NOTHING when compared with the numerous unending commands found in Mohammedanism.
Once again you are using the Mohammedan defense which is intrinsically deceptive thus proving my point. IT IS DECEPTIVELY OUTRAGEOUS TO THOSE OF US WHO UNDERSTAND THE SUBJECT.
You ask:
"The big ones which are correct is why do we not see moderate Muslims defend themselves or attack the radical arguments and actions? Why is it that there are even governments out there that neither defending the faith or attacking the radicals? Why is it that there is tolerance to radical Muslim groups in the West who push at the minimum anti-integration and supporting foreign leadership?"
The answer is simple: IT'S IN THEIR SCRIPTURE!
You need to read up on what Mohammedanism teaches because you obviously are lacking on the subject.
IT'S IN THEIR WRITINGS IS IN FACT THE CRUX OF EVERYTHING.
Please learn it.
If your going to put one standard for one and not the other, then your argument will never work and frankly looks silly.
The Old Testiment as in fact statistically more commands to kill and to a degree makes it divinely sanctioned to destroy entire tribes for the sake of ownership of land.
If you read their Koran (of which I have on numerous occassions and have put a diploma into it) you can in fact interpret in the same fashion as the OT. Also, you can go an ask their Imams and Scholars and get many differing interpretations but most of them will tell you that thier Koran is divided into three which incorporates a record of the time, examples of events to learn from and a message. Of course, if you want to play the context game, you can put all of it as some message and ignore the examples and events and thus you have done exactly as I noted, put one standard for yourself and not the same for the other....
Now, if anyone has to learn, it would be you. The best example of your complete failure is in fact calling Islam "Mohammedanism" which is both academically and in fact literally incorrect.
Nomenclature in Religion 101.
We call ourselves Christian because we believe in Christ as our Saviour and the Son of God.
Muslims do not claim that Mohammed is anything other than a Prophet and the focus of worship is on God alone. The original presumption was that Islam was to be called in the same frame as Christianity, which is incorrect.
It would be like calling Judaism as Abrahamism or Mosesism, it just does not work.
"the term Muhammadanism is offensive to Muslims who believe that Allah, not Muhammad, founded their religion"
Damien,
You wrote: The Old Testiment as in fact statistically more commands to kill ...
I respond: This is simply not true, Damien.
You're making it up.
Why are you making things up out of whole cloth like this.
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-educated-non-muslims-dont-like.html
Pastorius, I keep a copy of the Holy Bible near me all the time and am a regular Sunday worshiper. I consider the spirit of the Bible to be both my and society's guide and frankly the only salvation.
Now having said that, I have clearly said here and on other blogs, that if we cannot discuss subjects based on facts then we are fooling ourselves and making our worthwhile causes look tainted.
If we are to talk about the number of incidents, calls for and examples of death and destruction in both the Bible and the Koran, then there is more in the Bible.
We count the examples, commandments and destruction in Malachi, Zechariah, Nahum, Zephaniah, Job, Judges, Jeremiah, Genesis, Kings and Deuteronomy. A number of these include orders that are giving the rights and devine permission for the wiping off from the face of the planet tribes.
I know how I read and interpret them and that is in fact the issue. How come we do not condemn these but somehow the same standard is not given to their Koran? It has more to do with 9/11 than theology, that is my point.
You said "statistically", and yet, you have no statistics. Neither total quantity or percentage.
So, YOU MADE IT UP.
I provided you with stats.
You can not do that in return. You made it up.
People who make things up are called LIARS.
You are a liar. You lie awake at night. You lie through every tooth you've got.
Damien the Omen Part II,
I don't care what you think about me. Tonight you have proven yourself a racist and a liar.
Here's the challenge for you:
There are 245 positive verses about non-Muslims in the Koran.
There are 527 verses of intolerance toward non-Muslims in the Koran.
109 of those specifically advocate violence towards non-Muslims.
The numbers are:
772 total verses about non-Muslims
527 are negative
109 specifically call for violence.
That means
68% are negative towards non-Muslims
and
14% specifically call for violence.
Go ahead, count up the verses in the Old Testament. And, come back here with numbers that prove your original assertion.
Point tonight is, YOU MADE IT UP.
And, that means tonight you are a liar.
If you are able to come up with some definition by which you feel justified, then that does not excuse you from being a liar tonight. You have lied, so you are a liar. That's how it works.
We have not even discussed abrogation, or anything of the sort at this point, because I know you would deny it. But, it does not matter what you think Damien, because you do not define Islam. Muslims define Islam. And, they define Islam through a combination of exegesis and their behavior. And, that does not speak well for Islam worldwide. Certainly not in relation to other religions.
By the way, just to fill everyone else in, I have erased one of Damien's comments. I erased it because it was a personal attack on me. The brunt of it was that he'll be back and prove me wrong, and he thinks I am a sad human being blah blah blah.
Who cares.
Get us the numbers, Damien the Omen Part II.
I'll tell you whats silly: Claiming that the Bible has anywhere near the same commands to violence as the Queeran does. You need to study the Mohammedan texts with honesty and not as their defender via semantics and technicalities ie. twisting the intent and truth.
Example: Moe is nothing but a profit.
That's a load of horseshit in reality. You are a deceiver. A cartoon is drawn of Moe on the other side of the world and 100's die, but yet they don't worship the fiend!
B.S.
Comparing Jewish veneration of Abraham or Moses with Mohammedan adoration of Moe is RIDICULOUS to anyone who knows and understand this subject.
Name calling remains childish in any book, thus I will respond as if talking to a child until you grow-up.
Your talking versus I am talking totality of commandments and examples of death and destruction.
Question, how many of the Koranic versus are you (actually it is Spencer, not you) interpreting as commands or examples of a conflict in that era of time?
Question, how many tribes were wiped off the face of the planet in the Old Testiment. Examples:
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When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are about to enter and occupy, he will clear away many nations ahead of you: the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These seven nations are all more powerful than you. When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them, and don't let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you. (Deuteronomy 7:1-4 NLT)
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"You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?' But don't be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all. (Deuteronomy 7:16-24 NLT)
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Now interpret them as being examples of events of a time and there are messages within it, such as God's rath. Regardless, it is more destructive alone with seven entire "nations" being wiped away. The point, AGAIN, is the feable and futile attempt at trying to put different scales and values - it does not work.
Try again and this time do it yourself, not cut & paste Spencer.
li·ar
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noun
a person who tells lies.
This is not about me calling you names, Damien. This is about what you did, and what you revealed yourself to be in doing what you did.
You lied. Therefore, you are a liar.
You said you had statistics. You don't. You are a liar.
Now, you are quoting verses (which are not statistics). And, in doing so, you are ignoring the fact that we have been down this road before. We do not deny there are violent verses in the Bible. The question is how are they interpreted.
And now, you are challenging me to interpret them. No, that is not my job. I'm not going to go through all the verses of the Bible and interpret them. The reality is, those verses are not interpreted by any authoritative Church/Synagogue or Christian/Jewish academic institution as a license to kill.
But, in the case of the violent verses of the Koran, there are whole nations whose Mosques, governments, Academic Institutions, and Media outlets, interpret the violent verses of the Koran as a license to kill.
Like I said, we've been down the road before.
But, in the meanwhile, I thought you were going off on an errand to get us those statistics, which you claimed you already had.
Go get them. And, until you have them, shut the fuck up.
The verses you quote in Deuteronomy are UNIVERSALLY recognized by Jewish and Christian authorities as pertaining to specific peoples at a specific time. Why do you deceive?
Mohammedan authorities backed up by Mohammedan history expressly demonstrate that their commands to kill, oppress, enslave, and conquer the world by force if necessary for Allah are active and unending.
THERE IS NO OTHER SANE, HONEST, CONCLUSION.
Why do you deceive?
Anyone who defends this evil is a dupe for evil whether they realize it or not.
The answer to your question, cjk, is, HE IS A LIAR!
Now, as to why he is liar, we can only guess.
You've got an errand to do, Damien. Go get those stats you said you had. Go get them, and then I will let you comment again.
I have removed yet another comment from Damien. In this one he is saying he did respond to us. But, the response I am waiting for is the statistics he said he already had. He doesn't have any stats. The only response he has provided is a verse from Deutoronomy which calls for war against Canaanites. No one said there is no violence in the Bible. The question is, as Damien the Omen Part II put it, is there statistically more violence in the Bible. Damien said there is, and that he had the stats to prove it. He doesn't have them, or he would have provided them. I provided the exact stats on the violence in the Koran. Why can't he provide the stats?
Cuz, he is a liar. He doesn't have them.
Checking back here to see those stats. Not present.
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