Nobody told me about the bombs.
The first time I heard them, I was like DAMN!
Being from Milwaukee, I sadly became accustomed to hearing gunshots.
But bombs? Neva!
I was told that hearing bombs around here is pretty normal. Most people who have lived here for many years, barely even notice them.
Until now.
About a month and half ago, I heard (felt) my first bunker buster.
The first couple of times, most people around here shrugged.
But, since then, the amount of bombs that have been exploding, including the bunker busters, have locals raising their collective eyebrows.
People who usually don't notice the bombs, are actually talking about them.
The feeling I have is back prior to the Iraq war. Suddenly, I was hearing military planes.
I was use to seeing and hearing an occasional military plane. But all of a sudden, the volume increased, dramatically.
That is what is going on now with the bombs.
Hmm...
So many places could be the potential targets. But bunker busters?
There's only one place I can think of, that really could use a well placed bunker buster.
Could it really be true? After spending half my life, watching Iran stick their middle finger up at the world, are they finally going to pay?
Is the timing a coincidence or is this well timed?
Is this how Obama intends on getting elected?
Created catastrophy?
I seriously doubt Iran and their cronies will take being bombed, lying down. There very well could be trouble here.
Maybe that is all part of O's plan.
No matter. I want to see Iran finally get it.
But O better not get re-elected.
39 comments:
Thanks for posting this, Christine.
You're welcome.
Hi christine.
I'm willing to bet that once O realizes he will loose the coming election that he will attack Iran.
We are not dealing here with a rational person.
as Pasto said thank you for posting this.
Obama must be trying to use up the supply of bunker busters so President Romney won't have any left.
Oh, and I grew up near a military base. Our parents told us not to say anything when we saw/heard stuff like that.
If Mythbusters has taught me anything, there's a bundle of money to be made selling tickets to watch those explosions...
You're welcome Will.
No, rationality is not one of his assets, either.
You are correct about that Anonymous.
Crosspatch, hard not to talk about something that rocks your house, rattles your windows and creates a 2.0 earthquake for 6 hours.
TO: Christine, et al.
RE: Hmmmmm
Are you 100% certain that these are 'bombs' you're hearing?
To the inexperienced ear, all explosions sound pretty much alike.
It could be that the independent armor brigade stationed at Fort Knox is conducting serious we're-going-to-war exercises.
I'm not sure if that unit has seen combat since 9/11, as they generally are involved with training and support of the Armor School there.
But the way it sounds, based on reports, they could be doing a LOT of live-fire exercises. Which would be an indication that they're preparing for a deployment.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[God is alive....and Airborne-Ranger qualified.]
What went on yesterday, for about 6 hours, could definitely included live-fire exercises.
But, I have no doubt about the bombs. I live in a trailer. Shockwaves rock this place like crazy.
What went on all day yesterday, sounded like a serious thunderstorm, with the occasional big boom.
So yes, now that I think about it, live-fire exercises more than likely were involved.
TO: Christine
RE: The 'Thunderstorm'....
....was probably a field artillery battalion firing a Time-On-Target (TOT) fire mission. All the batteries in the battalion are scattered about the Main Battle Area (MBA). They are different distances from the intended target, so in order for all their rounds to arrive at approximately the same time—giving the enemy no time at all to take cover—they coordinate their firing times.
The net result sounds like a thunderstorm gone rabid.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Field artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl.]
Thank you Chuck for this excellent information. :)
TO: Christine
RE: Miles Away
I see you say you're 30 miles away from Fort Knox. Forts are usually rather large these days. Fort Carson's cantonment area is 30 miles north of where I live in Pueblo, Colorado. But the maneuver and field artillery impact areas extend 25 miles south from there. So I'm actually about 10 miles away.
Go up on Bing and check out the maps. You might be living closer to the field artillery impact area than you realize.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Infantry: The (Closet) Queen of Battle, their always getting scrod.]
I looked at a couple of maps. Couldn't really tell.
I am in Shepherdsville, which is 25 miles away.
Christine;
Google maps shows Ft Knox extending up to and into Shepardsville. I've never been to Ft Knkox, but looking at the rod network (and lack of roads), I 'd guess that the imjpact area extend northeast from the from the main complex. So the explosions you hear, are much closer than 25 miles; ore like 5-10.
And be glad they're ours, not their's.
Coarsehair
TO: Christine
RE: The 'Big Booms'
Those could have been the combat engineers practicing the implacement and detonation of charges to generate battlefield obstacles. They sound different from regular field artillery rounds as they are designed to move the Earth itself. Something more strenuous than merely blasting it.
But that's just conjecture on my part after serving 27 years in the infantry. But I was initially trained as a Combat Engineer.
All in all....if the information I'm getting from my limited capabilities are a retired subject matter expert....
....and throwing in my experience as a master moblizier, I'd say that unit is gearing-up for a fight. And as they are not—usually—the first in a fight, their duties being primarily to train the officers and men to fill the ranks of other units who have sustained casualties....
....this looks.....'interesting'.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[If you had a life in the first place, you'll never have a 'mid-life' crisis.]
P.S. As we generally don't need to do TOT or battlefield obstacles against mere guerrillas....
....this sounds like a stand-up/do-or-die modern battlefield environment they are training for. And that would indicate the 'liberation of Iran'.
What was it I saw, shortly after the liberation of Iraq? Some Iranian spray-painted a slogan on a wall in Tehran.....
Freedom through American boots
P.P.S. Did I ever tell you that Blogger 'stinks'?
Thank you coursehair.
Yes anonymous, these have definitely been "moving earth" as you say.
To me, the artillary causes booming sounds, the bombs cause a booming sound, the earth to move and an aftershock that shakes this place off it's foundations.
A message to the "conspiracy theorist" - I am reporting what I have been experiencing, as honestly as a non-military person can.
I may not be military. But, I know an aftershock when I feel it.
Maybe you just don't like the fact that I am talking about this.
Understandable. But don't call me a liar.
TO: Christine, et al.
RE: Talking About....
....'Conspiracy Theory'.
Late last January the Iranian launched a successful 'satellite'. A couple of days later one of their high-mucky-mucks announced that the United States would soon be destroyed.
As I commented earlier, I'm something of an SME in certain matters. The last part of my professional career was preparing State Area Commands (STARCs), i.e., the state Adjutants General and their staffs, to cope with national emergencies—think Gulf Wars—and natural disasters—think Katrinas.
That 'satellite' the Iranians launched, based on all I've been able to gather about it, comes close to the profile of a device to make an EMP attack on US: orbit about 250 miles up, weight and size of the device on a par with a small nuclear device.
Pop such a 'device' at that altitude above Omaha, Nebraska, and 90% of the electricity in 90% of the US is out for a number of years.
Within the first 12 months of the aftermath of such an attack, 50-90% of the population of US will be dead: starvation, illness, freezing, etc., etc.
Read the book....
http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765327252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340138942&sr=8-1&keywords=one+second+after
....to get a 'clue'.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. As for the naysayers....
....Illegitimi non carborundum!
They just took in a new crop if ROTC cadets last week. They might be doing firepower demonstrations, etc. Got to get them used to combat conditions and train them on heavy weapons such as armor and artillery.
I agree with the comment that you are likely closer to the impact area than you might realize. While the gate to the post might be 25 miles away, some of these posts are huge.
It also might have been a while since they used that particular impact area or they might have an overlap of ROTC training along with National Guard unit drills, which often take place in the summer.
Oh, one other thing, did you call the post's public affairs office? They are generally pretty responsive to neighbor inquiries.
Their Community Relations number is 502-624-0150 so give them a call, that's what its there for.
They'll probably tell her some unruly ROTC kids set off a bunch of firecrackers.
I thank you for your comments, Crosspatch. You obviously have a lot of knowledge we do not have.
But, I must say, I looked up "Military exercises fort know" on Google and I got the information about drills for the ROTC.
That seems extremely unlikely, unless Christine is very, very mistaken.
I seriously doubt the military would bring ROTC kids in and start using bombs that shook the Earth.
It just does not make sense.
"I seriously doubt the military would bring ROTC kids in and start using bombs that shook the Earth."
Those ROTC "kids" are likely older than the average recruit in the Army. Those showing them how to fire those weapons are likely younger. Our military is staffed by "kids". The average age of the USS Carl Vinson is about 20 years old.
Average age for most US infantry divisions is 22. That means there are a LOT of soldiers younger than that. I would say the average age of the ROTC cadets is 20. They aren't "kids".
I was in the Army when I was 17.
Speaking from personal experience, they would probably much rather talk to someone directly on the phone (which is why I posted the number above) than deal with idle speculation on the Internet. That's why they have a public affairs office.
They're probably closed for today, but will likely be open tomorrow. But then again, the shooting might be over tomorrow or moved to a different area.
Ok, you're teaching me something I did not know. I think of ROTC as being a High School Military prep class. I did not know there was a college age ROTC.
TO: crosspatch, et al.
RE: Stand-Down
They're probably closed for today, but will likely be open tomorrow. But then again, the shooting might be over tomorrow or moved to a different area. -- crosspatch
Units going through intensive training will stand-down to perform maintenance on their equipment and go over what went on during the exercise period. That will take anywhere up to a week....barring garrison support requirements.
Usual cycle in the 82d was—when I was there—one month of intensive field training, one month on Division Ready Force, i.e., 'fire house' standby, and one month on installation support.
Not sure what that Independent Armor Brigade (IAB) does. But a month of intensive field training with burning a LOT of ordinance, as the locals describe it, is 'out of the ordinary'.
The 'quiet' may be a stand-down. If the 'booming business' begins again for an unusual amount of time, it's something of an 'indicator' that there's more to this business than some PR pukes are willing to let on.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. Something else to look for....
....are State Area Command (STARC) HQs burning the midnight oil and ordering in pizza for dinner?
Still, however, what you are asserting is, or seems to be that Christine is WAY off base in her estimates of the ground shaking quality of these explosions.
Or, are you saying, they would be using very large explosive devices in training ROTC Cadets?
TO: Pastorius
RE: New Around Here?
Ok, you're teaching me something I did not know. I think of ROTC as being a High School Military prep class. I did not know there was a college age ROTC. -- Pastorius
Most officers in the Army come from the college ROTC programs.
You apparently don't pay much attention to the way the Instapundit keeps hammering Ivy League and other liberal universities for kicking ROTC off their campuses.
Between their third and fourth year of college ROTC, the cadets attend what is called Advanced Camp for about six weeks. They get exposed to the various branches of the Army, e.g., infantry, armor, artillery, engineers, etc., as in their fourth year, they state their desired branch in which they are to be commissioned.
However, with regards to what is being reported by the locals around Fort Knox, the booming business is much more than the cadets experience.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit. -- In the August 1993 issue, page 9, of PS magazine, the Army's magazine of preventive maintenance]
TO: Pastorius
RE: Heh
Still, however, what you are asserting is, or seems to be that Christine is WAY off base in her estimates of the ground shaking quality of these explosions. -- Pastorius
You talking to me?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Good communication techniques are the hobgoblin of blogging.]
Like I said, it is probably easier to just call and ask them than to engage in idle speculation.
Such things can seem quite frightening to people who have not experienced it before. I lived near a military base but there was at the time another one about 60 to 70 miles away. I could hear when they were firing artillery at that one.
Some things to note: There is nothing in the local news (Pioneer News) concerning this event. The borders of Ft. Knox do go directly to the city limits of Shepherdsville. It wouldn't be like a newspaper to keep something like this quiet.
There are no other stories from any other media concerning anything unusual. I'm not saying she isn't experiencing what she is experiencing but it might actually not be all that unusual. Accounts to the opposite from locals might just be them pulling a "newbie" leg.
I know if I could hear that artillery from a good 60-70 miles away, I can't imagine would it would have been like to be practically right next to it.
TO: crosspatch
RE: Heh
Like I said, it is probably easier to just call and ask them than to engage in idle speculation. -- crosspatch
Anyone can do that, but don't expect to hear the truth.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....but not from a PR puke.]
If you think you "want to see Iran finally get it", then by all means, please feel free to be the first to go.
but I don't think you understand what you're asking for.
War is not the answer. The only ones who win are the bankers who finance both sides.
I recommend War Is A Racket by Gen. Smedley Butler, the most decorated Marine in the history of our country.
Our military's purpose is to defend, not wage wars of aggression against foreign nations that have never posed a threat or attacked us.
If we are going after terrorists and the nations harboring them, supposedly 14 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudia Arabia.
we've had boots on the ground in Afghanistan for over 10 years guarding 90% of the world's poppy fields, yet the amount of heroin entering this country has continued unabated.
Scott Chaney
USAF '73-'79
Crew Chief B-52H
Chuckle,
No, I don't read Instapundit, and sadly, I don't really pay that much attention to the military in general. I have never been in the military, so I can claim to know very little about it.
There are a couple of other bloggers here at this site who do know about the military. I, on the other hand, don''t know much about anything useful.
And, no I was not referring to you. I was talking to Crosspatch.
TO: Pastorius
RE: Commo Matters
And, no I was not referring to you. I was talking to Crosspatch. -- Pastorius
Acknowledged.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary! -- James D. Nicoll]
TO: Scott Chaney
RE: The Purpose of Our Military....
Our military's purpose is to defend, not wage wars of aggression against foreign nations that have never posed a threat or attacked us. -- Scott Chaney
....is INDEED to defend US.
However, allow me to point out a couple of thinks.
• Defensive war always results in failure. Look at the Confederacy. Where is it today? And as Napoleon put it....
The logical outcome of defensive warfare is defeat.
• You should read One Second After and consider the consequences of US losing almost all of our electricity from a single orbiting nuclear weapon, as might be the case with that 'satellite' the Iranians launched into orbit last January.
Hope that helps....
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything. -- Harry S. Truman]
P.S. Since we're flashing 'creds'....
US Army
Airborne, Ranger, Infantry
Enlisted 1970
Retired 1997 (LTC)
TO: Scott Chaney
RE: Smedley Who?
I recommend War Is A Racket by Gen. Smedley Butler, the most decorated Marine in the history of our country. -- Scott Chaney
Being an Army grunt, I'm not that familiar with the heroes of the GIrines. I had thought that Chesty Puller was their greatest. Oh well...
RE: War As a Racket
I counter-recommend This Kind of War: A Study In Unpreparedness by T.R. Fehrenbach.
TR was a high school history teacher, who was also an officer in the National Guard, when Korea broke out.
His unit was mobilized, fought the entire war and demobilized after the armistice.
He went back to teaching history. He also wrote that book. And THAT BOOK was recommended by EVERY GENERAL OFFICER WHO CAME TO SPEAK TO THE ASSEMBLED CLASSES AT Benning School for Boys, a.k.a., the US Army Infantry School.
I got it after getting to my next duty station—Fort Carson—and it was superb reading about how US got 'slack' between WWII and Korea.
I especially recommend Chapter 25, Proud Legions.
Hope that helps....
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[You haven't lived until you've almost died.]
Does anyone actually believe the national media will tell the truth,its entertainment,if you want real news you gotta dig.
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