The Ex-Muslims of Britain are organizing in order to make their voices heard. And, where do they stand?
Against the appeasement of Islam:
“Ex-Muslims” hoping to change the terms of debate about Islam in Europe will launch a British group in London on Thursday. The Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain will be the latest addition to groupings that began in Germany in February and spread to Scandinavia in May. A Dutch group will hold its launch in September. [...]
“Too many things in the media and government policies have been geared to pandering to the political Islamic movements and Islamic organizations,” Maryam Namazie, head of the British group, told Reuters[...] “I hope we’ll get a lot more attention and begin to change the debate,”
I would imagine fatwas and death threats will begin to rain down on these brave people.
4 comments:
That’s amazing! Thanks Pastorius! The British government has been so busy appeasing the Muslims, they’ve ignored us. Now that our presence is recognised there’s a lot more we can achieve in terms of development. Great news! Bring on the Imams!! Wohoo!
Yeah, I do think this is great news, and I think this story relates very well to the conversation you and I are having in the other thread.
It's come to a pretty sad state when these people are showing more bravery than the politicians who are elected to run the country.
All power to them.
I stood shoulder to shoulder with some of them a few years ago during the protests against sharia laws in Canada, and I find them to be a mixed bag, to say the least. Yes, they had the nerve to stand in public to protest against Islam in the West, but they were also as much against all other religions as Dawkins and Dennet and Hitchens. They came across as Leftists and haters, to me, though I could be wrong about individuals.
Do we really need an alliance with atheists of this sort or do we want real democrats on our side? This is the kind of clear thinking we have to do now before we find ourselves in the same boat with a different crew later.
Why are ex-Muslims against Islam? What motivates them? Do we have anything in common with them other than our hatred of Islam? Will we benefit from siding with Left fascists? I suggest that unless the ex-Muslims are openly in favor of democracy and explicitly against socialism that we are better off without them.
Yes, they seem to say the right things in the right places, and we do want to have them as an example for other Muslims to cling to-- if they're not the same only different from the rest who are committed jihadis. Are they? Is it better to have Tudeh than Khomeini? I don't see it as an improvemnet.
If we don't offer a positive programme for all democratic people to follow then we will get sucked in by fascists posing under the umbrella of anti-this or anti-that. And then what? We find the same problem in a different hue.
There's a reason why Thomas Paine isn't one of the Founding Fathers. He was there and he did his good work, but he was not part of the plan as it was meant to be. We have to be clearer in our goals than simply naively accepting that all who seem good for us truly are.
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