All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.
I tend to enjoy his diatribes about Islam and the war on western freedoms and draw the line there. Condell is an atheist and I am not.
OT:
As the kids prepare to return to school here on the east coast, I thought I'd share this e-mail I got several years ago.
"Lessons NOT to Learn in School"
Do not - repeat - do not learn these lessons.
If we're teaching you these things, we're sorry.
If you've learned any of these already, forget them fast, before you get out of school!
YOU ONLY NEED TO GET A 70(or 65% as in NY) A 70 is NOT OK. 70 stinks. Name one occupation in which it is OK to be right only 70% of the time. How many mistakes can a surgeon make? Can a grocery checker give out correct change only 70% of the time? Can a teacher be wrong about 30% of what (s)he teaches? would you pay a guy who contracted to paint your house, and then quit after only painting three sides? That's 75% - in school that was OK?
Face it: even a farm worker will be fired the first day he leaves behind 30% of the oranges he is being paid to pick.
In real life, jobs require you to know ALL the answers, and do 100% of the work, ALL the time. How many mistakes can airline pilot make?
THE TESTS WILL MOSTLY BE MULTIPLE CHOICE Not a chance! Life never gives you four answers to pick from, one of which is guaranteed to be right. The world doesn't give you a "word bank". Sometimes life presents an infinity of choices, none of which is the "only correct answer". Sometimes there are only two choices, both of which are bad, but you have to pick one. And the penalties for being wrong are real, expensive and sometimes fatal. Life is not a true-false test - AND - you cannot drop the class, either.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A RETEST Only in school, never in life. Do you get to try again, with no penalty, after a car crash, after cancer, after a divorce, after being fired for stealing? You may get another shot, but only after a serious penalty. And your first failure may be a monkey on your back for the rest of your life. If the schools have taught you that it's no big deal to fail, because you'll get another try, we have done you a real disservice.
THEY CAN'T FLUNK ALL OF US Yes, they can. They're not going to "curve the grades" so that only a small percentage fail. Take a business, for instance. Imagine it's YOUR business. You're only going to hire employees who have the level of skills that you want. You will not hire or will quickly fire, all who don't measure up -- even if that means "failing" 98%. If you don't follow such 'unfair' practices, your business itself will soon fail. Would you trust a company that never rejected or fired any employees, no matter how lazy, incompetent, or dishonest they were?
YOU GET TO PASS, ALONG WITH YOUR BUDDIES After eight years of this being true, it takes some kids a long time to realize that it is no longer true. After high school it's even worse. The world does not care how long you've been friends, or if you 'self esteem' will suffer when you 'peers' move on without you. Do you think those "peers" are going to pass up chances to move up in life to stay back with you? "Social promotion" only happens in school. If we've trained you to expect it, we've hurt you.
YOU ONLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S ON THE TEST If that's how you've been trained, you should sue! If we've taught you that in Biology, for instance, you only need to learn 30 things this week to pass the quiz on Friday, or that in English there are only 50 facts you need to know about Romeo & Juliet -- the facts you drilled on worksheets and know will be on the test -- then we've taught you incorrectly. It won't be like that in college - or in life. A real test is a SAMPLE: out of the hundreds or thousands of things you are expected to know, a test samples a few. That's why it's hard to study for a real test, like the SAT: there isn't just a short set of facts you can memorize because you know they'll be on thetest . . IT'S THE TEACHER'S JOB TO TEACH YOU STUFF Many schools work that way, so it's not your fault if you think that. But it's a CHEAP FRAUD. If you've learned to learn by sitting back and letting the teacher do stuff to you, then we have seriously stunted your educational growth. Here's the way it's done in colleges and other centers of real learning: the teacher provides the opportunity and guidance for learning, and maybe some clarification now and then. But learning is something the STUDENT does himself -- to himself. He goes after it ACTIVELY. He learns far more than he will ever be tested on, more than a teacher can possibly drum into him if he just sits back passively and lets himself be taught at. A read student uses a teacher, as just one of his resources, to get all the education he can. If you only learn reluctantly, passively what the teacher can teach you, then you're doomed to never learn much, and forget it quickly. Learning is something YOU DO, something you GET, not something done to you. . DON'T BE TOO SMART Yes, I'm afraid we've taught you that too. Look at all the effort we put into getting low-ability kids to pass TAAS (state minimum competency test), compared to how little we work on maximizing your SAT. Look at all the flash and glamour surrounding high school football, compared to that surrounding academic competition -- or just getting top grades. Do we try to protect the "self esteem" of "poorly motivated" or "at risk" students by ignoring or playing down the superior accomplishments of superior students? Are we so afraid of having a high "failure Rate" that we lower our standards to the point where the smart kids feel no sense of accomplishment at getting an A? Do we allow a subculture to develop among kids that says, "don't be too smart -- that'll make the rest of us look bad"? Does school ever convey they idea that "them guys like Shakespeare and Einstein and Darwin was a bunch of nerds with a lotta crazy ideas to confuse us -- you don't really gotta know any of that stuff, anyways"? If that's the lesson, subliminal or overt, that we've taught, we should be closed down. That's the exact opposite of what we should be doing. We have been hurting you, not helping you. If you're one of our victims, if we've unintentionally taught you any ofthese truly destructive attitudes, we're sorry - and guilty. Not every student lets the educational system victimize him, though. Some have refused to learn these attitudes, refused to become victims. They have learned how to learn despite the system They have learned to use us, and they will learn far more than we can ever teach.
If you're a victim and never realized it, you'll join the bleak statistics: another washout product of the American school system, with a third-rate education and no competitive skills. If you do realize it, whining won't help (we probably taught you that "skill" too). You have to decide what you realy want and need and go after it. Quit being a victim. Refuse to be a victim any longer. Use the system to get every bit of knowledge out of it you can. Don't let your willing-passive-victim friends hold you back. Go for everything you can get.
That's OK, Anonymous. As one of the lurking resisdent atheist pariahs around here, I'll be glad to appreciate all of Pad Condell's astute and razor-sharp criticism of Islam for you.
Nice analysis of the current state of what passes for education in America, btw. That's about the size of it, and Obama's candidacy is one of the fruits.
Nevertheless, I believe that atheists have truth to share about matters other than faith. And the Bible does speak of "Whatsoever things are true,...dwell on those things."
I don't know of anyone who considers you a pariah. I certainy do not.
We all express our opinions here. You are free to express your disbelief in the Judeo-Christian ideology/religious paradigm. Go ahead. You're not the only atheist contributor here.
revereridesagain - I didn't provide enough context in my comment about Condell and created this above misunderstanding. I do not dislike Pat because he is an atheist. His dissertations on religion follow logic to a point. He doesn't quite comprehend Jewish history accurately when it comes to Israel and it's heart, Jerusalem. Condell remains firmly implanted in the King Solomon solution to ME peace despite his clear understanding of Islam .
Back before 2001, I was one of those people who would say of the ME Crisis, "If those people can't get along, then let them kill each other."
The King Solomon solution is merely a nice way of saying the same thing. Yes, that's right, it's actually nicer to say, "Rip the baby in half," (because it creates the illusion that it will stop with the "baby" - Jerusalem) when in fact, it will not stop until the "Palestinians" get to commit genocide against the Jews.
Pat Condell is not stupid enough to believe that there is moral equivalence in this situation. So, why would he demand a "split the baby" solution?
It is my opinion that, right though he is about Islam, he is an asshole par excellence who does not deserve to be taken seriously.
I post his anti-Islam videos because they are effective propaganda, but he is full of shit.
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I LOVE this guy!
I tend to enjoy his diatribes about Islam and the war on western freedoms and draw the line there. Condell is an atheist and I am not.
OT:
As the kids prepare to return to school here on the east coast, I thought I'd share this e-mail I got several years ago.
"Lessons NOT to Learn in School"
Do not - repeat - do not learn these lessons.
If we're teaching you these things, we're sorry.
If you've learned any of these already, forget them fast, before you get out of school!
YOU ONLY NEED TO GET A 70 (or 65% as in NY) A 70 is NOT OK. 70 stinks. Name one occupation in which it is OK to be right only 70% of the time. How many mistakes can a surgeon make? Can a grocery checker give out correct change only 70% of the time? Can a teacher be wrong about 30% of what (s)he teaches? would you pay a guy who contracted to paint your house, and then quit after only painting three sides? That's 75% - in school that was OK?
Face it: even a farm worker will be fired the first day he leaves behind 30% of the oranges he is being paid to pick.
In real life, jobs require you to know ALL the answers, and do 100% of the work, ALL the time. How many mistakes can airline pilot make?
THE TESTS WILL MOSTLY BE MULTIPLE CHOICE Not a chance! Life never gives you four answers to pick from, one of which is guaranteed to be right. The world doesn't give you a "word bank". Sometimes life presents an infinity of choices, none of which is the "only correct answer". Sometimes there are only two choices, both of which are bad, but you have to pick one. And the penalties for being wrong are real, expensive and sometimes fatal. Life is not a true-false test - AND - you cannot drop the class, either.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A RETEST Only in school, never in life. Do you get to try again, with no penalty, after a car crash, after cancer, after a divorce, after being fired for stealing? You may get another shot, but only after a serious penalty. And your first failure may be a monkey on your back for the rest of your life. If the schools have taught you that it's no big deal to fail, because you'll get another try, we have done you a real disservice.
THEY CAN'T FLUNK ALL OF US Yes, they can. They're not going to "curve the grades" so that only a small percentage fail. Take a business, for instance. Imagine it's YOUR business. You're only going to hire employees who have the level of skills that you want. You will not hire or will quickly fire, all who don't measure up -- even if that means "failing" 98%. If you don't follow such 'unfair' practices, your business itself will soon fail. Would you trust a company that never rejected or fired any employees, no matter how lazy, incompetent, or dishonest they were?
YOU GET TO PASS, ALONG WITH YOUR BUDDIES After eight years of this being true, it takes some kids a long time to realize that it is no longer true. After high school it's even worse. The world does not care how long you've been friends, or if you 'self esteem' will suffer when you 'peers' move on without you. Do you think those "peers" are going to pass up chances to move up in life to stay back with you? "Social promotion" only happens in school. If we've trained you to expect it, we've hurt you.
YOU ONLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S ON THE TEST If that's how you've been trained, you should sue! If we've taught you that in Biology, for instance, you only need to learn 30 things this week to pass the quiz on Friday, or that in English there are only 50 facts you need to know about Romeo & Juliet -- the facts you drilled on worksheets and know will be on the test -- then we've taught you incorrectly. It won't be like that in college - or in life. A real test is a SAMPLE: out of the hundreds or thousands of things you are expected to know, a test samples a few. That's why it's hard to study for a real test, like the SAT: there isn't just a short set of facts you can memorize because you know they'll be on thetest . .
IT'S THE TEACHER'S JOB TO TEACH YOU STUFF Many schools work that way, so it's not your fault if you think that. But it's a CHEAP FRAUD. If you've learned to learn by sitting back and letting the teacher do stuff to you, then we have seriously stunted your educational growth. Here's the way it's done in colleges and other centers of real learning: the teacher provides the opportunity and guidance for learning, and maybe some clarification now and then. But learning is something the STUDENT does himself -- to himself. He goes after it ACTIVELY. He learns far more than he will ever be tested on, more than a teacher can possibly drum into him if he just sits back passively and lets himself be taught at. A read student uses a teacher, as just one of his resources, to get all the education he can. If you only learn reluctantly, passively what the teacher can teach you, then you're doomed to never learn much, and forget it quickly. Learning is something YOU DO, something you GET, not something done to you. .
DON'T BE TOO SMART Yes, I'm afraid we've taught you that too. Look at all the effort we put into getting low-ability kids to pass TAAS (state minimum competency test), compared to how little we work on maximizing your SAT. Look at all the flash and glamour surrounding high school football, compared to that surrounding academic competition -- or just getting top grades. Do we try to protect the "self esteem" of "poorly motivated" or "at risk" students by ignoring or playing down the superior accomplishments of superior students? Are we so afraid of having a high "failure Rate" that we lower our standards to the point where the smart kids feel no sense of accomplishment at getting an A? Do we allow a subculture to develop among kids that says, "don't be too smart -- that'll make the rest of us look bad"? Does school ever convey they idea that "them guys like Shakespeare and Einstein and Darwin was a bunch of nerds with a lotta crazy ideas to confuse us -- you don't really gotta know any of that stuff, anyways"? If that's the lesson, subliminal or overt, that we've taught, we should be closed down. That's the exact opposite of what we should be doing. We have been hurting you, not helping you.
If you're one of our victims, if we've unintentionally taught you any ofthese truly destructive attitudes, we're sorry - and guilty. Not every student lets the educational system victimize him, though. Some have refused to learn these attitudes, refused to become victims. They have learned how to learn despite the system They have learned to use us, and they will learn far more than we can ever teach.
If you're a victim and never realized it, you'll join the bleak statistics: another washout product of the American school system, with a third-rate education and no competitive skills. If you do realize it, whining won't help (we probably taught you that "skill" too). You have to decide what you realy want and need and go after it. Quit being a victim. Refuse to be a victim any longer. Use the system to get every bit of knowledge out of it you can. Don't let your willing-passive-victim friends hold you back. Go for everything you can get.
That's OK, Anonymous. As one of the lurking resisdent atheist pariahs around here, I'll be glad to appreciate all of Pad Condell's astute and razor-sharp criticism of Islam for you.
Nice analysis of the current state of what passes for education in America, btw. That's about the size of it, and Obama's candidacy is one of the fruits.
Most here know that I'm a Christian.
Nevertheless, I believe that atheists have truth to share about matters other than faith. And the Bible does speak of "Whatsoever things are true,...dwell on those things."
RevereRidesAgain,
You are a valued contributor here at IBA.
I don't know of anyone who considers you a pariah. I certainy do not.
We all express our opinions here. You are free to express your disbelief in the Judeo-Christian ideology/religious paradigm. Go ahead. You're not the only atheist contributor here.
Pat Condell at his best - again!
I shall be posting this one' and there'll be a hat tip to you, Always.
Thanks a lot.
revereridesagain - I didn't provide enough context in my comment about Condell and created this above misunderstanding. I do not dislike Pat because he is an atheist. His dissertations on religion follow logic to a point. He doesn't quite comprehend Jewish history accurately when it comes to Israel and it's heart, Jerusalem. Condell remains firmly implanted in the King Solomon solution to ME peace despite his clear understanding of Islam .
Anonymous,
Back before 2001, I was one of those people who would say of the ME Crisis, "If those people can't get along, then let them kill each other."
The King Solomon solution is merely a nice way of saying the same thing. Yes, that's right, it's actually nicer to say, "Rip the baby in half," (because it creates the illusion that it will stop with the "baby" - Jerusalem) when in fact, it will not stop until the "Palestinians" get to commit genocide against the Jews.
Pat Condell is not stupid enough to believe that there is moral equivalence in this situation. So, why would he demand a "split the baby" solution?
It is my opinion that, right though he is about Islam, he is an asshole par excellence who does not deserve to be taken seriously.
I post his anti-Islam videos because they are effective propaganda, but he is full of shit.
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