The riots were orchestrated since late summer 2008. There were reports within the Greek police that the riots would commence by the Christmas period at the latest; the location and the justification was not known, but any event could have caused them. This is a copycat case of what happened in France in Octomber 2005.
The culprits in the higher level are Islamic networks in the Middle East, hand-in-hand with corrupted Western officials that are selling their services for the highest bidder.
The purpose is to destabilize Greece, since it is the “Weakest link” of the Eurozone countries. The ultimate goal is the creation of a European space suitable for expansion of the Middle Eastern networks.
For the moment the latter use a variety of techniques to bolster their aims:
Terrorism, disinformation, Psy Ops, bribing officials. They are trying to throw USA against Russia from one side and disentegrate the bonds between EU-USA from the other side.
They are the ones that burned Greek forests in summer 2007, in an operation some call “Ibrahim Project”, thus reminding of the same damages in the same region by Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt during the Greek revolution in the summer of 1827.
There is a great issue nowadays with the existence of more than obvious links between renegade intelligence officers of Western origin with anarchist-radical movements in order to destabilize European countries.
The anarchist-radical network of disoriented youth is very strong in Europe as the riots in 2005 showed where the radicals and the Muslims joined forces to damage Sarkozy’s image to no avail.
In France recently it was announced by the Ministry of Interior that French anarchists that were in contact with Greek and Italian counterparts, tried to sabotage the railway network (TGV trains). The inability of the western goverments to comprehend what is really at stake already has grave consequences for Europe.
Moreover the deals being made between European and Russian energy companies that will increase natural gas imports by the former, greatly diminishes the influence of the Saudis in Europe along with their long-term income.
The new American Administration should really understand that it has been used for a number of years by Riyad (and others) that has already managed to throw American forces into the Iraqi and Afgani battlefields were the new 21st century Mujahedeen forces are being molded. They will be used against Europe in a few years in a play that surpasses the ability of the Western capitals to deal with this kind of war.
Back to Greece, the riots were executed using internet-new media techniques, such as instant messaging from a mobile phone to webpages such as Indymedia ...
(Pastorius note: That's an assertion that ought to be backed up by links, right?)
... along with use of CB’s, facebook pages, walkie-talkies, and construction of “Flow-networks” and already established “dark networks” within the city.
The French goverment has already called for tough action by the Greek goverment, whilst the intelligence apparatus of the former provides assistance to the latter. Over the coming days it seems that all the known security forces in the world will either try to take advantage of the situation or take the side of the Greek goverment.
As a concluding mark, the present blog emphatically notes that the responsibility of the Western capitals is of historical purpotions. Rioting by “Radical youth” will become an everyday reality in the Continent in the coming years and the security forces should look further than their noose when assesing a situation.
A 4th world war errupted in 2001, which has enemy collaborators within our ranks. Before any victory can be called, they should be removed and punished accordingly.
The riots in Greece are just one small incident of the ongoing war that may last more than the previous ones and it is one of all-encompassing national, social, and economic nature.
We should not be surprised that Muslims and Leftists would link up. Their shared hatred of the West is more than enough reason for them to be allies.
What Leftists see as the Long March to a Utopian Society, Muslims see as progress towards the day the Infidels will be subdued and humiliated into paying the Jizya.
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First Mumbai, then Greece, now Denmark, next France? Is it me, or is this moving from East to West?
Who woulda thunk it, huh?
Taylor and Hagmann over at Northeast Intelligence Network note a rise in "chatter" involving instruction material about IED's and how to blow up things, as well as the FBI's investigation of the "disappearance" of dozens of Somali and other young men of the Islamist persuasion who appear to be going abroad for jihad training.
A point Gonzales makes (see comment elsewhere) is that humans have a long and persistent record of standing around staring at the tsunami/erupting volcano/forest fire/hurricane/collapsing 100+ storey buildings until they are engulfed. The majority of Americans are distracted by economic crisis, holiday shopping, Obamania, and an engineered mindset that tells them the "real danger" is too many cars and plastic bags and jihadist massacres are just "youths" airing "grievances" and only happen to "them furriners" anyway. We are well and truly Set Up.
That's very well put. Who is Gonzalez?
I knew this -- intuitively.
RRA,
Yes, coming in this direction.
Damn.
JP
Laurence Gonzales, wrote "Deep Survival" and "Everyday Survival", I mentioned him a few posts down and am going to try to do a post on him soon. Basically his work is about why people are unaware of danger until it strikes them. The first book is better. Unfortunately he illustrates what he's warning about in "ES" by focusing on "Global Warming" while totally ignoring the Islamist threat.
AOW, in discussing the tsunami, Gonzales writes about two people who spotted the danger early enough to save others. One was a 10-year-old girl who had read a lot on the internet about tsunamis and knew what it meant when the water drained off the beach. The other was a Californian, familiar with the sound made by an earthquake, who heard the faint rumble of the quake that started the wave and so was on alert for anything strange happening.
We here have done the same thing. We have sought out information and made ourselves aware of what is happening and know what danger signs to watch for. Most people are, in effect, standing on the beach dismissing the rumbling as distance thunder, the "tide" running out as some moon-related event, and complaining that all these European tourists on the beach are probably disturbing the ecosystem.
RRA,
Most people are, in effect, standing on the beach dismissing the rumbling as distance thunder, the "tide" running out as some moon-related event, and complaining that all these European tourists on the beach are probably disturbing the ecosystem.
I used to believe that making others aware of the oncoming tsunami would result in their taking action or at least start watching.
I don't believe that anymore.
It's damned discouraging.
Ah, well. But I do keep plugging away.
I have Christmas preparations to tend to today. In spite of what I know, I'm going to force myself to do "the regular stuff."
Last night, I pushed back my melancholy and played the piano for a while. But my spirits will never be lifted as high as they once were. The march of Islam, in all its methodry, has cast a pall over my life.
That is fascinating RRA. I can't wait for your post.
AOW
Same here. In between early gift wrapping and card writing I'll be spending today looking at my work/upcoming Medicare eligibility/Social Security situation to make some serious decisions about whether to "retire" (i.e., bail out of the bookstore, take SS a little early, and fill in the rest with my eBay selling) so I'll have more time and less distraction to concentrate on dealing with what's coming at us. But I know I'm standing on the beach too. I hear the rumbling of the quake, I see the water receded, and the line of the first of the great waves has appeared along the horizon. So when am I going to get serious and start moving my ass to higher ground? So that for one thing I'll have the time and energy to write that post?
Anybody has any input about medicare/SS to share it is all welcome.
AOW,
I've been writing back and forth with our Spanish writer, Spanish Pundit, and she seems to think these riots really are caused by Leftists.
I don't believe leftists have the energy to sustain this kind of energy for days on end. She says they do, from her experience. She says it has happened in Spain.
I think that the problems in Greece are far too complex to assign them to Islam. We have to be careful not to see "Gespenster in allen Ecken" here.
Mark,
When you say too complex, do you mean there are multiple forces at work including Islam? Because that's what I think. I don't think this is all about Islam. I just think the Muslims have joined with the Lefties. these riots look like the French riots mixed with Islam to me.
Note, by the way, even the reason for the rioting is the same as the French riots.
Pastorius:
When you say too complex, do you mean there are multiple forces at work including Islam? Because that's what I think. I don't think this is all about Islam. I just think the Muslims have joined with the Lefties. these riots look like the French riots mixed with Islam to me.
Yes, I do mean that there are multiple forces at work here. In my humble opinion, I do not think that Islam is the main problem in this anarchy. Often times, I do think that Islam is at work in our problems; but on this occasion, I do not.
Greece has a very strong communist element in society. There are also many grievances related to the EU. The universities and schools there leave much to be desired.
The shooting of this poor, young man was but the catalyst that set it all off.
Unless I am greatly mistaken, Islam has sweet little to do with this grave problem. The problems in Greek society are many and complex.
Check this out:
http://librabunda.blogspot.com/2008/12/les-grecs-disent-leur-colre-lejdd.html
and this:
http://librabunda.blogspot.com/2008/12/anarchy-in-greece-greece-comes-to.html
Please use Google translate if you must. Whilst not perfect, it will give you a fair idea of what has been written here. The German articles are particularly worth translating.
A bogus claim without evidence. Seems like Islamophobia at it's peak.
If you really want to learn about the true meaning of Islam, then come to the source and find out.
Greeks Rethink,
What are you talking about, GR? Are you referring to the Krayon?
Pastorius, I'm refering to the post, 'Riots In Greece Coordinated By Islamic Networks In The Middle East? '
Such a bogus claim with no evidence whatsoever. If there was any chance of it - even a shred - all the news networks would be all over that.
If you really want to learn the truth about Islam, your best bet is to go to the source (i.e. educated Muslims - www.greeksrethink.com).
Ignorance leads to fear. Fear leads to Islamophobic paranoia.
It is very hard to believe everything in the article, but there is a lot of truth there
To claim that the 'Riots In Greece Coordinated By Islamic Networks are The Middle East, seems a bit far fetched, but looking at the history of the Islamist/far left it could be very possible and should not be overlooked.
We should remember how Red Army Faction aka. the Baader-Meinhof gang where involved with the islamist in aircraft high jacking,
One of the leading members of RAF, Monika Haas, was even married to one of the palistianian hijackers of a Lufthansa-operated Boeing aircraft bound from Mallorca in Spain, with 87 passengers.
The Lod Airport massacre was a terrorist attack that occurred on May 30, 1972, in which three members of the Japanese Red Army, on behalf of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
The Blekinge Street Gang was a group of ten communist political activists who during the 1970s and 80s committed a number of highly professional robberies in Denmark and sent the money to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
However those activists were also the official leaders of a small political party, whose official ideology formed the moral excuse for their crimes. The gangs claims to fame were the professionalism of their heists, and the 1988 discovery of a large cache of weapons and explosives in a flat on "Blekinge Street" giving the gang its press name
During one of their robberies the Marxist gangsters shot a young police officer, Jesper Egtved Hansen but none of the seven terrorists among whom the internationally known Swiss terrorist Marc Rudin could be convicted of the murder.
They all refused to tell who had actually pulled the trigger, so nobody was ever convicted for this heinous crime.
Some of the gang members are still politically active, and some are heroes and role models for the contemporary Danish red-fascist movement around the organizations DEMOS, REDOX, Ungdomshuset, ARN, AFA and a large numbers of similar groups.
After serving their rather lenient sentences, one of the murderers Thorkil Lauesen was rewarded with a high post in the municipality of Copenhagen where a sympathetic contact; Bo Asmus Keldgaard member of the Socialist Party SF, helped secure the ex con a well paid job apparently in good understanding with the dominating Social Democrat fraction and their Mayor, and without repercussions when it became public knowledge that the perpetrater of a highly politically motivated crime got the job.
On September 6, 1970, Leila Khaled and Patrick Arguello, a Nicaraguan leftist, attempted the hijack of El Al Flight 219 from Amsterdam to New York City as part of the Dawson's Field hijackings;
Leila Khaled Palestinian fighter, Marxist revolutionary grew up in Sweden Has on several occasions spoken at Stop the war rallies in london
For Islamists and the far left there has been a headlong tumble into each other's arms.
A series of anti-war rallies in 2003 - Britain's biggest ever political demonstrations - were organised jointly by The Stop the War Coalition, which is led by Lindsey German of the Socialist Workers Party and Andrew Murray of the Communist Party of Britain, and the Muslim Association of Britain, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. The apparent contradictions of socialists and Islamists forming political coalitions have been either ignored or overcome in their desire to form a broad political front. While the majority of marchers on the anti-war rallies were ordinary, non-political people for whom these doctrinal differences do not matter, the leaders of the Stop The War Coalition and the Muslim Association of Britain have had to put aside serious differences over, for instance, homosexuality and women's rights, in order to work together.
Until recently, the far left ignored the Muslim community, and particularly political Islamists, as possible allies, viewing them with suspicion as not only religious but also socially reactionary. This changed with the start of the second intifada, when the far left and Islamist groups regularly found themselves on the same anti-Israel demonstrations.
Many on the far left view Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad as being in the romantic tradition of anti-imperialist liberation movements, despite the fact that their radical Islamist ideology and agenda are entirely at odds with those of the left.
Spark, published by the youth wing of Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party, hailed Asif Mohammed Hanif, a British Muslim who carried out a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv in April 2003, as a "hero of the revolutionary youth" who carried out his bombing "in the spirit of internationalism". A British delegation from the Che-Leila Youth Brigade, a radical left wing student group named after Che Guevara and Leila Khaled, held a meeting with Palestinian Islamic Jihad the day after an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber had killed 17 people on a bus in Megiddo in June 2002.
Again,
Ignorance leads to fear. Fear leads to Islamophobic paranoia.
Your posts and comments are bordering on racism, instead of evidence. If you want to really learn about Islam, start learning from the scriptures, not the history of the Middle East. Two totally separate things.
Here is the news report on our site covering the riots, which is based on facts.
http://www.greeksrethink.com/2008/12/riots-in-greece-are-muslims-behind-it/
Greeks Rethink: You said, "Your posts and comments are bordering on racism ..."
I say: If you are a Muslim (and it seems that you are), then you know that Islam is not a race.
You also know, as a human being who is aware of the world that there are whole countries (Iran and Saudi Arabia being just two of them) which are dominated by a very virulent form of Islam which insists that apostates and gay be put to death and that women have no choice in their lives.
Do you condemn that?
If you do, then you are with us. That's what we talk about here.
if you do not condemn that virulent form of Islam, then your silence = consent, and you are part of the problem.
"...and that women have no choice in their lives."
I am a woman and Islam gives me a lot more freedom and choice in my life than I had as a Christian. You see, this is what I am talking about. If you really want to know about the real Islam, you need to learn it from the source.
Back to the original topic. Whoever wrote this article has no clue about the event in Greece. Either that or they are Islamophobic. I don't mean to be offensive in anyway but this article is really offensive to Muslims, at least me.
GR,
You have not addressed what I stated. You may feel more free. Do you wear a burqa? Do you parents choose your husband? Are you allowed to go outside without a male relative guarding you? Are you allowed to choose whether or not to go to school?
Women in Saudi Arabia are not allowed to make these choices for themselves.
And, you know that to be true.
You may be offended by the contents of this article. However, you know that the techniques that the man is describing in this article were used by the Muslim terrorists in Mumbai just the other day. So, what good does it do to protest that this offends you when your Muslim btothers and sisters already use such techniques to kill people in the name of your god?
Please cease playing coy with me. YOu have already tried the racism canard. Now, you are trying the "personally offended" ploy.
Enough.
Deal with reality.
Pastorius, I'm not here to insult you or fight with you. I'm simply here to stay on topic and to say that this article that was posted is clearly untrue. No facts, just Islamophobic at its height.
If you would like to go off topic and mention other political events, that's not my problem. I'm here to stick to the main point and hope that you can take constructive criticism on the article.
I think my message is clear but just in case, I'll say it one more.
1. This article is false.
2. Your picture of true Islam is totally distorted. (I'm not talking about Muslims here, I'm talking about Islam, which is a big difference).
3.If you really want to learn about Islam, you need to get rid of any preconceived ideas you have and go to the source to find out.
Thanks for your time. Goodbye. If you would like to further discuss these main points, you're free to visit our site and start a discussion there.
Oh, by the way, you asked a lot of questions not indirectly related to the article so I decided to answer them on our blog. You can find the answers here:
http://www.greeksrethink.com/2008/12/q-do-your-parents-choose-your-husband/
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