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Wednesday, May 13, 2009

The Jihadists Will Eventually Use Nukes

I believe nuclear war is an inevitability.

The Jihadists demonstrated on 9/11 that they are willing to do whatever they can, with whatever resources they can get their hands on, to kill as many of us as possible, and to do as much damage to our system as is possible.

Therefore, if they were able to get their hands on nukes, they would use them against us.

Since I believe this is an inevitability, I have allowed my mind free reign to ponder the possible solutions.

Here is what I have thought about.

1) We do not want to "turn the entire ME into glass", though many people do propose this idea with much wrathful fury.

2) We can not afford to run continuous wars with the 57 nations which comprise the Organization of the Islamic Conference.

3) We could pursue a strategy of nuking one city after another until we beat them into submission, but that will only encourage more Jihadists to aquire nukes and use them on us.

4) In my opinion, any use of nukes only encourages the use of more nukes.

5) Assimilation does not, for the most part, work. So, I do not believe we can expect an Islamic reformation to begin with ideas born out of assimilation into Western Culture.

6) Our strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan was absolutely wrong. And, the peak evidence of that is that we allowed them to enshrine Sharia in their respective Constitutions. Our blueprint for victory is Japan and Germany. We wrote those Constitutions. We eliminated the state-sponsored religions of Nazism and triabalist Japanese Shinto Buddhism. We did not follow our own blueprint for victory, therefore, we are destined to fail in those two countries.

7) Even if we did succeed, all we would have succeeded with, in my opinion, is establishig a Democracy in the ME, which would in turn have been demonized by all the other ME countries, just as they demonize Israel, the U.S. and the West. They have told us themselves, Islam and Democracy do not mix. So, they would continuously work to destroy an Iraqi or Afghani Democracy. Those countries would never be safe.

8) THEREFORE, the only solution is a long-term policy of Imperialism across the ME. In this way, we could pay for our occupation with the proceeds of the countries GNP. And, we could, over many generatations, teach them the meaning of Freedom and Democracy and Human Rights.

This will come to be perceived as the only humane option, in my opinion.
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Anonymous Bleeding-heart liberal said...

If they nuke us then we should nuke Mecca and blast that meteorite back into orbit to prove Allah doesn't exist.

However, pre-emptive imperialism is the best solution. We should occupy the oilfields, which are mostly small and near the sea, and fence off the rest of Dar al-Islam and let them get on with their dark-age lifestyle. Apart from oil, they produce nothing whatsoever of use to the rest of the human race.

If necessary, we should agree the oilfield confiscation with other interested parties such as China and India, both of whom have serious Moslem problems.

Moslems already in Dar al-Harb should be rounded up and sent back into Dar al-Islam, presumably by herding them back though well-guarded gaps in the cordon sanitaire.

Remember - You may not be interested in Jihad, but Jihad is interested in YOU!

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:14:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Well, I don't agree with rounding up all Muslims and shipping them out. Other than that, it sounds like we're in agreement.

Problem is, we don't have the will for pre-emptive Imperialism. And, I doubt we will find the will, until AFTER we are nuked, or suffer a severe biological attack.

We simply do not learn our lessons that easily. The compfort of our lifestyle in the West leads us to believe that all peoples are generally as decent as us. We fool ourselves into believing that our morality comes entirely from within.

The truth is, our morality is afforded us by the bulwark of weapons and ideas which we have installed around our physical and ideological borders.

We are currently is a state of decay and we are allowing this bulwark to break down.

However, WWII is a good lesson in how quickly we can snap to when our mind is wonderfully concentrated by the gallows which are prepared for us.

By the way, my solution for how to deal with the Jihadists in our midst is this;

We need to enact laws which make it clear that advocacy of Sharia and Jihad are sedition. We should lock up anyone who is guilty of such sedition, and we should try them, and then either send them to prison or send them to the Sharia-state of their choice.

We are a Culture built on Law. We must maintain that.

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:21:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

By the way, your name is a bit of a misnomer, isn't it?


Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:21:00 pm  
Blogger Just Cause said...

I'll agree on one point, we need to take the oilfields. Cutting the arabs off from the petrodollars would immediately stop the funding of mosques and the wahhabi ideology that's spreading like a cancer throughout the west.

Let's be honest, without petrodollars, the Arabs are at best camel herders.

As for nukes, we would have to use them decisively for them to have any effect but unless taking the oilfields is part of the plan then it would be pointless.

In a way, we are desensitised to nukes so deploying a couple for a show of force like Hiroshima and Nagasaki will not work against the Jihadists. The strategy to employ would have to be in comparison to a master smacking his dog sharply across the nose to show them who's boss. Arab/Jihadists are like an untrained dog and need to be brought into line so the hit has got to be hard and followed up again and again. The one overarching problem though is where would you nuke to get maximum effect? My money is that Tehran has to be target #1. Nuke it and then broadcasts go out saying "irans leaders were against us, what about you?". Of course, this would spark local jihadi flare ups the world over therefore you'd have to have the military/law enforcement on hand to put these down equally as hard and by that i mean shoot to kill.

nukes would only be part of the strategy. the risk would be destabilising russia and china if they saw nukes going off not far from their borders but i'm fairly confident that russia and china both know nuclear warfare is a zero sum game and would quite happily hang their jihadi friends out to dry if they were to get some nice black gold kickbacks for keeping their fingers off the hair triggers.

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:48:00 pm  
Blogger WC said...

Pasto - see my latest post here.

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:54:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take the oil fields? Nah . . .too much effort and human capital invested in such an endeavor. Secure another source of energy then seal the ME oil fields or contaminate the fields so the oil is unusable.

Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:44:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...


Before we do anything else, the west needs to solve the birthrate/immigration problem. We can't win this war, if our societies become majority Jihadist. Also, we'll be at a huge disadvantage, if our populations keep shrinking, and we might not have enough forces to continuously occupy the Middle East under those circumstances, not to mention the rest of the Islamic world. But in the long run, I'm not even sure containment is possible, since they're so determined to destroy us. We really need to eliminate our need for oil. That's just about the only major export of most of these theocratic Islamic states, excluding Illegal drugs. We need to bankrupt them, especially the Iranians and the Saudis.

By the way, did you come up with this post after reading my comment, on this post, about Christians in Egypt? Its almost an exact word for word reprint of your reply to my comments. Did you come up with this after reading them?

Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:58:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The West might want to gather all relevant historical and contemporary data regarding the present global ideological scourge into one or more digital processing repositories.

The data might then be checked for historical accuracy, condensed, sorted, prioritized, and repackaged in such a way as to be compelling and accessible to as many different kinds of infidels as possible. In essence, a motivational awareness inducing compendium of recorded dar al Islam vs dar al Harb animus.

After that we could apply some "stimulus style" cash to PAY the voting citizenry to actually study this information until they become convinced of its veracity and rightfully concerned about the magnitude of the threat.

And then, or after another terrible cataclysm, we will reach the necessary tipping point.

Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:07:00 am  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

This will come to be perceived as the only humane option, in my opinion.Well, I happen to agree. However, I don't see any Western leaders anywhere near that point.

Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:09:00 am  
Blogger SamenoKami said...

Tell the muslims that the first nuke that goes off in the US, we nuke mecca and medina. That stupid cube is the weak point of islam.
Could islam exist w/o mecca and the ka'ab?

Pipedreams! All the world except islam is too politically correct. We'll never have the gonads to win against islam.

Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:15:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

If you were coaching, say, the Lakers, would you walk into the locker room at half time and tell them they are going to lose the 7th game of the Finals?

Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:31:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


Don't say that we can't win. Never give up hope, because if we do, than we will lose.

Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:17:00 pm  

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