Here is someone who actually has the courage to speak the truth, and knows what that truth is. "Vijay Kumar, a longtime Nashville resident, is in the telecommunications business. Last year,he ran for the Republican nomination for Congress on the anti-sharia platform."
"Obama's aid to Pakistan is misguided," by Vijay Kumar in The Tennessean, May 3 (thanks to James):
The brazen, unhindered advance of Taliban militants in Pakistan threatens the world once gain with the specter of universal jihad.The consolidation of Islamic imperialism in the Pakistani heartland underscores the futility of U.S. efforts to prop up Pakistan's ruling generals with massive amounts of foreign aid. The military, riddled with Taliban sympathizers in its lower ranks and corruption at the top, has looked the other way while the militants gained strength, and has ceded swaths of territory to them.
Given Pakistan's complicity with the Taliban, it is foolhardy for the Obama administration to attempt to buy security. Money sent to Islamabad will fall into the wrong hands and come back to haunt the U.S. and its allies. It will be used in attacks on U.S. troops in Afghanistan; it will be used to terrorize India and Israel....
America needs to unite and work with nations that historically have been victims of jihad, not those that are its progenitors.
Radical Islam is implacable. Its ideology does not admit competitors. It is the enemy of democracy wherever it encounters it. The Islamists will not be content until they have Talibanized the world, imposing their fundamentalist variant of Sharia law on true believers and infidels alike. Terrorism is a means to that end for the Islamists, who have a long, successful history of ideological conquest. America's "War on Terror" has erred by treating terrorism as an end in itself.
The time has come for the world's infidels to unite against the tidal wave of jihad before it engulfs them.
Go read the whole thing over at Jihad Watch.
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Pastorius,
I haven't heard much about, Vijay Kumar. I think I'm the one who first told you about this guy. Remember? I'm glad he's still around, unfortunately he apparently didn't win his election campaign. Oh well.
Yes, I do remember that, Damien.
This guy is just ahead of his time. His time will come.
Pastorius,
Let's hope his time comes soon.
What is not an Infidel
Teddy3indc@blogspot.com
American, Israeli
French, Indian, or English
To a true Jihadist
that Is Not an Infidel death wish
Christian, Jew, who believe in One God
You are not an infidel
Buddhist, Hindu, who believe in One God
You are not an infidel
Pagan,
You're a marked infidel
If you like bacon or pork,
enjoy the flesh that God has forbidden.
Or wear a tight skirt,
So much for modesty and comfort
Red pump shoe
So much for modesty and comfort
Or play football in the dirt
Ain't nothing wrong with that!
Pray to One God though and all is over looked,
for you are not an Infidel
Whether you're a woman or man,
you are not an Infidel.
If you're bisexual or Gay
then you lust against God's will
I still love you today, and God will love you tomorrow.
Some Jihadist would hang you true,
But who are they to judge, NO ONE CAN JUDGE YOU
But our God, who is compassionate and merciful
If you're eyein' this week's Hunk
you are driven by this world and wants
If you like Titties and beer
your a regular guy, but you are driven by this world
Leer at the babe of the week
Love the video's and music........
You are human yes, and sinful yes
But fear God and praise him thoroughly
And a infidel you are not
If you believe that science and art
Lead to understanding and beauty
That peace, love and fellowship
Are the ideals of humanity
And also believe in God and his creation
The afterlife and the prophets
YOU ARE THE FURTHEST THING FROM AN INFIDEL
If a Saturday night
Is just meant to have fun
And you feel the need to carry a gun
You should be leery of your type of fun
If you see me (a Jihadi, an American, a Marine, a decent human being)
Be ready to talk and learn
God loves us all when we are needy and yearn
So join the midnight rider if you want to
And cheer with those who raise they're glass
To all you in good company here
If you think for a second that you'll kick my ass,
Question much your fear, cowardice, and action trash
While one of your own take your blows and never backlash.
This is in response to “What is An Infidel” , http://ibloga.blogspot.com/
teddy3indc,
Okay fine, maybe you're a moderate Muslim. Maybe you reject Jihad and Sharia and just don't know what it means to be a Jihadi. Maybe your reject the call to wage war on all infidels in the name of your religion. Than if you're Muslim, and Islamic principles include "Love my neighbor, enemy, family, .. everyone, because God created all," please tell your fellow Muslims to tolerate non Muslims and respect their right to coexist peacefully. Demand that Islamic people stop trying to force the non Islamic world to submit, convert, or die. Tell them to stop with the nonsense that only Muslims are innocent. The non Islamic world didn't start this war, Muslim waging Jihad did.
And while you're at it, tell them to abandon Sharia, and accept secularism. You can't embrace western values and Sharia and/or Jihad at the same time. Western values and those Islamic values are completely incompatible. Things like Sharia violate the most basic tenets of human rights. Are you aware that under Sharia, it is illegal for a Muslim to convert to any other religion under pain of death? Are you aware that a women is the property of a man? That she always belongs to her father, or her husband?
Did you know that under Sharia, it takes four male witness to convict, one man of raping a defenseless woman? Are you aware that Sharia advocates executing homosexuals?
We are not waging war on Islam. However right now, Muslims are waging war on us in the name of their religion. They are using hate filled passages in the Koran to justify this war. If you understand what a Jihadi means, and you want to be one, then please get out of here, leave the west and never come back, infact stay far away from any non Islamic country. In fact go to Saudi Ariabia on your Hajji and if you like it their, never come back. If you don't like it there, you are not a Jihadi.
teddy3indc,
By the way, I'm fully aware that standing up to the fundamentalists in your religion would mean risking your life, but if you truly care enough and you want to live in peace, you need to denounce them, and tell them to give up their Jihad and join the twenty first century.
Thanks for the warning Teddy. I'm guessing you don''t realize that what you are saying is a warning, but it is.
Good Day Damien. Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I love my country, The United States, and have done my very best to protect it and honor it. I served in the Marines on active duty as well as reserves. I have been called back, and have taught almost every single CBRN Marine in the corps. I teach terrorism awareness and Chem/ Bio response. My resume tells one story of my dedication to you, my family, this country, and all of my brothers and sisters in arms. I also am a Muslim. Therefore I also have a kinship to Islam and the righteous people of Islam. I have One Creator and value life in all of it's magnificent ways. The world works too perfect to deny any of this. I am writing you this morning to just let you know that I value all of your opinions, because without your differing opinion, my opinion will not matter. With me your opinion will not matter. Thank you for being very knowledgeable and the people of the Quran, but your knowledge is biased and rooted in hatred. If you truly understood Islam you would not tell a Muslim Marine, who is respectful to you, proven such, and honorable in intentions and words, to leave and never come back to the wonderful life I have been given here. Don't kid yourself when writing to teach me something that I must learn for myself. I see the world with eyes wide open, while yours are wide shut. If I should die today I will be happy, and you will still be angry at those darn Jihads (strugglers). Because of my outlook, I see the exact same things you do, but with curiosity and understanding. I do not chalk the eastern Muslims as stupid or different. They just live in a different place with a different code of ethics. And when I go to Mecca a “good” Muslim will greet me with happiness, although I am very different then them in cultural terms. I don't stop you from spreading the hate speech, but you are doing your best to get me to 'Never come back'. Take an honest look at yourself and ask; 'Why do I really feel this way', 'Why do I feel like I am being attacked', 'When was the last time I feared about God, rather than fear the God fearing'. If you feared God you would not put down any of God's creations. If you believe in God you would strive to talk to individual Muslims, rather than try to banish them, or tell them they are wrong. Freedoms to choose, live, talk, and write opinions that are giving by God and protected by this country, and I fully appreciate your insite.
I do not reject Jihad. I do not reject Sharia. I will not reject the Quran, Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, Noah, or Allah. There is not one single thing you could do to me to make me reject any of these.
Sir, a Jihadi is, ONE WHO STRUGGLES THE ADVANCEMENTS OF INJUSTICE, HATE, MALICE, DISCONTENT, AND LUST. This can be in the physical, or in the spiritual. Physical in two parts; Defense against aggression or protection of the self from evils. Spiritual in two parts; Learning or God consciousness. You seem to think that Jihad means holy war of some sorts. Let's get it straight. Jihad is not holy war, it is One's Holy Struggle. Some people are falsely driven yes, and may claim to be practicing Jihad, but can be misguided. I cannot judge who these people are, but I can tell you that if aggressive acts stop on them, then they must stop of the aggression. If you would not have made a multiple posting to me, then I would not have made this one. This is my Jihad and because I feel as though you try to discredit my words, (praise God), I respond will equal words. Jihad is not war on infidels. You just keep watching the news and taking what you hear as true. An Infidels in the unbelieving and unfaithful. That can be someone who doesn't believe in God, or someone who believes in God but for their own pleasure. Jihad can be me inviting my family over to my house and telling them I am a Muslim and allowing them to ask questions. It can be me typing to you over the Internet. I can be me sustaining positive outlook on life, not drinking, not cursing, not taking from people who are in need, and the list can go on. If someone chooses to go to war with you, they must first look at themselves and ask why then look upon the enemy in the same concern. Why do you feel the need to attack me? Trust me I don't need it, but I can take it. I don't need to tell Muslims anything. The God will punish them if they transgress, just as he will punish you. And by the way Jihad cannot start wars. Jihad fixes wars. If every single person in this world struggled against usury, greet, and hate, then there would be not war. Simple concept for complex minds.
I can embrace all I want. Western culture is just that. Western CULTURE. Whatever the majority feel goes as far as culture's standpoint. If I want my life to be this way, then given this culture of be all that you can be, I Can.
The reason why a Muslim in not 'allowed' to convert to other religions is because of what it says about the person. Islam makes you appreciate life and God. To convert to anything else would take that away. Loosing your faith after attaining it is like loosing your eyes site while walking across a busy street. That's not good. You cannot find falseness in the Quran, and the Quran is what our faith is all about. Sharia is just a set of rules to govern people to the right way. There are a lot of Muslims who understand that.
Woman are not property. Woman are responsibility. A good man deserves a good woman. A good woman deserves a good man. True woman don't have the right to divorce, but they are allowed to ask for one. If the husband is a righteous man, and I know that that doesn't always happen, then he will grant an unhappy woman her divorce and settlement. You can't blame a religion for bad people in it. Don't try to say that all people are bad because that would be a lie also.
The reason it takes so many people to convict a man is because in Muslim communities the woman is usually inside. For a man to rape a woman he would have to bypass everyone in the house. If he does he will no doubt be burned in hell. No body should have to be abused in that manner. On the other hand though, How many men do you know have been falsely accused? How many woman after being hurt have falsely accused a man? I know many! I know many who are still serving jail time after the women admitted their lie. There are reasons for everything. You just seem to dwell on a few sticky western philosophical points. I hate to say it, but a philosophe would not only see one side.
Muslims believe that homosexuals are lusting after flesh. Lust corrupts the communities and will destroy the moral fabric of society. I know many homosexuals, and although, they are nice people, I choose to disagree with them. In this country they have the power to choose. Over seas they do not have the open power that they have here, but if they choose to leave then so be it.
Everything you have said has a reverse opinion. You are forgetting one thing though. One of the moral traits recommended in the Quran is forgiveness:“Hold to forgiveness, command what is right, and turn away from the ignorant.” (Quran 7: 199).In another verse Allah commands: “… They should rather pardon and overlook. Would you not love Allah to forgive you? Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an, 24:22)
Many Muslims for the sake of themselves in the eyes of Allah pardon all ills, because it is up to Allah to judge, punish, and condemn. If we take such actions then we are putting our “Deen” or way of life in jeopardy. God doesn't like ugly and isn't happy about the wicked may they parish in their own misery.
When your resume, book of life, moral compass or fortitude grows to the lengths of mine, I will still not leave my home unless I chose to. I will visit and make pilgrimage, but I will return home ever vigilant. I hope to continue this dialogue with you then, or anytime before. You truly are a gifted thinker and writer, but you heart is set on separation.“Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.”, Kahlil Gibran.
My God bless you with his every insistent love and honor, and may your days be filled with wonderment and joy at the creations that you cannot control.
Deuces!
{pastorius}
Good day,
I was not threatening anyone. I was stating the reverse opinion from my standpoint, but also trying to convey that I am one of you with a different point of few. I actually feel threatened by the Islamic hate speech on this page, but I am drawn to it profoundly.Thank you all for the long and detail thoughts. Maybe one day we can all sit outside on our decks and drink iced tea and laugh about it all. Tell you what I will invite you all over if your ever around the D.C. metro area.
Thanks, Teddy. That's kind of you.
I will explain my comment later. Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now.
Hope you have a good day.
Teddy3inDC,
I would never say that all Muslims are Jihadists. I'm fully aware of the fact that some Muslims don't support things like Jihad or Sharia or killing infidels maybe you're one of them. If you want disprove that Islam is a hate fulled, intolerant religion, you must disprove it. But you can't do it, by going around saying that Islam is a religion of peace. You have to prove that its a religion of peace. Get as many of your fellow Muslims as possible to openly denounce Sharia and say to anyone who supports it, that it has no place in the modern world. Whenever Muslims leaders demand that people who criticize their religion, be killed, you must get your fellow Muslims to denounce them, not support them and call for the death of some Danish cartoonist. There are many vile antisemitic cartoons printed in the Arab world pretty much every day, but there are virtually no Jews who call for the executions of those cartoonists. Also, you need to protest on behalf of former Muslims who are going to be put to death by their governments for converting to another religion. Suicide bombing must be condemned in all instances, including, but not limited to when the tactic is used on Israelis. Condemn any law that makes homosexuality a crime. You also must denounce honor killings and the idea that women are inferior to men. Last but not least, you must thoroughly refute the idea that only Muslims are innocent, and worthy of life, and you must demand that Muslims learn to peacefully coexist with non Muslims as equals and not their superiors.
You might do some good towards your goal, by joining organizations like, "Muslims Against Sharia" or another reformists Muslim organization like, "The institute for the secularization of Islamic Society." While you're at it, you need to stay away from "Muslim Brotherhood" affiliated organizations like CAIR which is a phony civil rights organization, but really dedicated to destroying our constitution and replacing it with Sharia. Also you need to denounce such organizations, as well as Hamas, and you need to get large numbers of your fellow Muslims to do so.
Teddy3inDC,
Oh and while you're at it, you need to explain why any passage in the Koran that calls for the subjugation or death of all unbelievers is no longer relevant, and must get other Muslims to do the same.
I will say that all Muslims are Jihadists. I have defined the definition of Jihad and listed possible types of struggle for you clearly and concisely. I do support Jihad and Sharia, like I said before, as well as killing those who kill. But for the sake of my personal Deen and the sake of my salvation in heaven, I will leave the judgment to Allah. Islam is a religion of peace. Islam, the word, by definition is peace and submitting. If you were thinking clearly you could see this without foggy glasses. You have not defined the religion based on the Quran, but you have defined the religion based on the people. The religion of the Quran is perfect with or without the people, but it is the people that are to blame for the view of Islam in the world. There is no such thing as a perfect human, and 100% correct person, therefore all of our actions have repercussions whether negative or positive. It is also not my place to decide the outcome of someone else's actions. I am responsible for my own. Therefore it is not my responsibility to prove anything about the religion, it is your responsibility to PROVE to everyone else that Islam is wrong and therefore evil. It cannot be done. If you read a verse and take it out of context or don't understand the full body of work then you just won't get it, however you will never prove that God is wrong. Do you even belief in God? I will never, ever, gather Muslims to denounce a single thing for your sake. We have nothing to prove to you. As you write and spread, once again, your disdain about Islam, you give me the opportunity to spread the REAL Islam to more people. The religion of Islam is better then you and anything you can muster up, because God is better than anything you do. Everything you do is because God allows you. A Muslim leader, or anyone for that matter, will have to face God for ALL his actions, so what matter is it to me what he says. Sure he is wrong for wishing death on anyone, but he also has the same conviction you have towards me. Does that mean that you should be put to death by all Americans because you wish death on anyone else. No! You can only be judge by The Judge, and therefore I have no place to scrutinize you.
I think I will just make a list---
I will not condemn anyone for saying anything. It is not my place. They will have their awards and their punishments.
I will not tell people to stop doing anything unless it has been ordained by God not to do so. Even then I will not pass judgment on them. However, if someone ask me if they are wrong, or if I see something wrong taking place, I will do my best to stop it from occurring. I will not punish the aggressor without just cause. And the punishment will reflect the crime.
I will not condemn any law that is God abiding. I will not condemn any law of governments, because governments reflect the will of the people. I will strive to teach people tolerance, love, and understanding. I will strive to teach people that it is God's will that, as long as someone isn't hurting or hindering another, they should be shown respect, and should be cared for.
I will not deny anyone's ideas. That would be critical of me. I will not be so arrogant to think that because I have the right to an opinion, that that makes my opinion right. Sir, this is your ultimate falsehood, and this is why your words come out hateful and shameful.
Woman are not inferior in any respect. Woman are however, in the Muslim society a respected responsibility to the men. If men in the United States were more respectful to women, there would be less domestic violence, killings, rape, abuse, and more harmonious existence. The rates of all of those things listed are way more prevalent in the U.S. then most other places. A God fearing woman, and a God fearing man are a force to be reckoned with, but in the U.S. more people are afraid of their neighbors having more money then themselves.
If you got on your face and knees 5 or more times a day to talk to God maybe you would be a bit wiser in your words.
How dare you think that you can pass judgment on anyone else! You are not God, so never say who is innocent and who is guilty. And most of all don't begin to say who is worthy of life. You continue to do that and you continue to put hatred in your heart. Ultimately a stone floats to the bottom of the deepest seas, and you are well on your way. Your heart tells you to continue to slander, and your mind gives you those words, but your body can only take so much until it will expire due to your darkness.
I am a Muslim and I don't just coexist. I am well please with my surroundings and the people in my life. I will give you 300 names of people who will tell you how well I co-exist.
I do not think I am better than you. No Muslim does. We are all put here to run our course, worship our God, and Live to honor the way of life we were giving. You fail to realize that because you requested those specific parameters that you automatically put yourself above all Muslims which makes you a hypocrite to ask for their superiority. NO one person in Islam is more superior to another. That is why Muslims, regardless of money and societal status, pray shoulder to shoulder, foot to foot. Who in your life do you get that close to?
I will decide for myself what affiliations I belong. I will stick with affiliations like; American, Muslim, Black, Marines, Veterans, Workers, Writers,Thinker, Free thinkers, Voters, Lovers, and Jihadist.
I do not agree with many organizations and principles, but I will not pass judgment because someone like you has asked me to. Nor will I ask others to follow me if I were not to do so.
You have a strong can-do spirit, a very intelligent style of repose, and an interesting way of detailing your opinion, but your views are extremely one sided. If I may point out a view things.
You will be better at conveying your opinion, IF you can better understand the other's
You will be understood if you don't try to FORCE another to do your bidding
A leader is someone who can make people follow because them because they feel he is true
To be a leader you must not be proven false
To be a leader you must be humble
To be a God fearing leader you must show respect to all creatures
You must wish no harm on others
Drop you fear of the world, and your fear of what you DON'T Know, so you will grow as a better person for what you do know.
Don't threaten because eventually you will be ousted by those you threaten
Don't bring yourself down a notch with each word. Eventually your dark words will fall on deaf ears.
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
What else do I need to say. You base your arguments on things you read and don't understand. If the Quran did say it were okay to kill, unbelievers wherever, then who would convert to Islam out of love. Those converts of fear would corrupt Islam in the same way that the bible was corrupted by the Holy Roman Empire at the fall of the Great Roman Empire. Do your homework sir. If you find something specific in the Quran, say the verse, and I will tell you what it means. If you can say why the meaning is wrong, then I will ask you to write something better. If you do I will ask you to follow your own doctrine and see where it gets you.
(Quran 60:7-8):
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."
Teddy3inDC,
You support Jihad and Sharia? Than you can't embrace Western Values.
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The religion of the Quran is perfect with or without the people, but it is the people that are to blame for the view of Islam in the world. There is no such thing as a perfect human, and 100% correct person, therefore all of our actions have repercussions whether negative or positive. It is also not my place to decide the outcome of someone else's actions. I am responsible for my own. Therefore it is not my responsibility to prove anything about the religion, it is your responsibility to PROVE to everyone else that Islam is wrong and therefore evil. It cannot be done. If you read a verse and take it out of context or don't understand the full body of work then you just won't get it, however you will never prove that God is wrong. Do you even belief in God? I will never, ever, gather Muslims to denounce a single thing for your sake. We have nothing to prove to you. As you write and spread, once again, your disdain about Islam, you give me the opportunity to spread the REAL Islam to more people. The religion of Islam is better then you and anything you can muster up, because God is better than anything you do. Everything you do is because God allows you. A Muslim leader, or anyone for that matter, will have to face God for ALL his actions, so what matter is it to me what he says. Sure he is wrong for wishing death on anyone, but he also has the same conviction you have towards me. Does that mean that you should be put to death by all Americans because you wish death on anyone else. No! You can only be judge by The Judge, and therefore I have no place to scrutinize you.
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No, the terrorists are simply doing what the Koran tells them. It says that it is the duty of Muslims to convert the world by any means necessary and that includes Coarsen, which also includes terrorism. Do yourself a favor and read the Koran and realize that you yourself are being condemned by it, for fighting on behalf of the United States, because the United States is not a Muslim country.
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I will not condemn anyone for saying anything. It is not my place. They will have their awards and their punishments.
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Yes it is your place, and by not having a significant number of Muslims condemning those who call themselves Muslims who call for the death of unbelievers, it makes it look like they have wide spread support. If they have wide spread support among Muslims, it gives me reason to fear the day that Islam becomes dominate here.
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I will not tell people to stop doing anything unless it has been ordained by God not to do so. Even then I will not pass judgment on them. However, if someone ask me if they are wrong, or if I see something wrong taking place, I will do my best to stop it from occurring. I will not punish the aggressor without just cause. And the punishment will reflect the crime.
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Really, now that's a marvelously vague answer.
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I will not condemn any law that is God abiding. I will not condemn any law of governments, because governments reflect the will of the people. I will strive to teach people tolerance, love, and understanding. I will strive to teach people that it is God's will that, as long as someone isn't hurting or hindering another, they should be shown respect, and should be cared for.
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Really? What about a law that violates the US constitution or human dignity. Sharia violates the Constitution? By the way, don't tell me that the Koran supersedes the constitution, in fact if you do, please leave this country and go live in Saudi Arabia, and see if you like it. And by the way, if you do like it, please don't come back to America.
Also don't just stay away from America or the west, stay away from any non Islamic country.
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I will not deny anyone's ideas. That would be critical of me. I will not be so arrogant to think that because I have the right to an opinion, that that makes my opinion right. Sir, this is your ultimate falsehood, and this is why your words come out hateful and shameful.
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Really? You will not deny anyone's ideas? You just did! You denied what I am saying.
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Woman are not inferior in any respect. Woman are however, in the Muslim society a respected responsibility to the men. If men in the United States were more respectful to women, there would be less domestic violence, killings, rape, abuse, and more harmonious existence. The rates of all of those things listed are way more prevalent in the U.S. then most other places. A God fearing woman, and a God fearing man are a force to be reckoned with, but in the U.S. more people are afraid of their neighbors having more money then themselves.
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Really women are more respected in Islamic societies than in the west? Don't make me laugh. Okay here are a few facts about how women are treated in many Islamic societies.
The deepening humanitarian crisis, mostly unnoticed by the Western world, is laid bare by the numbers:
Between 70 percent and 90 percent of the 83 million women in Pakistan have been attacked or suffered other forms of domestic abuse by husbands, future husbands or other family members, according to Human Rights Watch (HRW).
More than 4,100 “honor” killings - the slaying of a woman by relatives who think she has shamed the family - occurred in the country between 2001 and 2004, according to Pakistan’s Interior Ministry.
Nearly 290 women were killed and 750 permanently injured or disfigured as a result of acid attacks in 2002 alone, according to HRW.Source, Oh and by the way, read the Source I linked to, that those statistics came from.
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If you got on your face and knees 5 or more times a day to talk to God maybe you would be a bit wiser in your words.
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Actually I know of a few very wise atheists who never pray to God and yet they are still wise, some perhaps wiser than me.
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How dare you think that you can pass judgment on anyone else! You are not God, so never say who is innocent and who is guilty. And most of all don't begin to say who is worthy of life. You continue to do that and you continue to put hatred in your heart. Ultimately a stone floats to the bottom of the deepest seas, and you are well on your way. Your heart tells you to continue to slander, and your mind gives you those words, but your body can only take so much until it will expire due to your darkness.
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Well than, how dare you hypocritically pass judgment on me.
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I am a Muslim and I don't just coexist. I am well please with my surroundings and the people in my life. I will give you 300 names of people who will tell you how well I co-exist.
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Fine, good for you
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I do not think I am better than you. No Muslim does. We are all put here to run our course, worship our God, and Live to honor the way of life we were giving. You fail to realize that because you requested those specific parameters that you automatically put yourself above all Muslims which makes you a hypocrite to ask for their superiority. NO one person in Islam is more superior to another. That is why Muslims, regardless of money and societal status, pray shoulder to shoulder, foot to foot. Who in your life do you get that close to?
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Well I'm certainly glad that you don't think your better than me, but do you honestly expect me to believe that no Muslim out there thinks he's better than me, because of his religion when many of them are committing terrorists atrocities against unbelievers in the name of their religion?
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I will decide for myself what affiliations I belong. I will stick with affiliations like; American, Muslim, Black, Marines, Veterans, Workers, Writers,Thinker, Free thinkers, Voters, Lovers, and Jihadist.
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Fine, but Jihadist and free thinker aren't exactly compatible.
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I do not agree with many organizations and principles, but I will not pass judgment because someone like you has asked me to. Nor will I ask others to follow me if I were not to do so.
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Fine than, how do you expect to refute the claim that Islam is a violate hate filled intolerant religion, or get the non Islamic world to stop viewing it, with fear and suspicion?
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You have a strong can-do spirit, a very intelligent style of repose, and an interesting way of detailing your opinion, but your views are extremely one sided. If I may point out a view things.
You will be better at conveying your opinion, IF you can better understand the other's
You will be understood if you don't try to FORCE another to do your bidding
A leader is someone who can make people follow because them because they feel he is true
To be a leader you must not be proven false
To be a leader you must be humble
To be a God fearing leader you must show respect to all creatures
You must wish no harm on others
Drop you fear of the world, and your fear of what you DON'T Know, so you will grow as a better person for what you do know.
Don't threaten because eventually you will be ousted by those you threaten
Don't bring yourself down a notch with each word. Eventually your dark words will fall on deaf ears.
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Again, you condemn judging anyone's ideas, yet you condemn mine?
Teddy3inDC,
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"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
What else do I need to say. You base your arguments on things you read and don't understand. If the Quran did say it were okay to kill, unbelievers wherever, then who would convert to Islam out of love. Those converts of fear would corrupt Islam in the same way that the bible was corrupted by the Holy Roman Empire at the fall of the Great Roman Empire. Do your homework sir. If you find something specific in the Quran, say the verse, and I will tell you what it means. If you can say why the meaning is wrong, then I will ask you to write something better. If you do I will ask you to follow your own doctrine and see where it gets you.
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If you are not willing to condemn those who do evil and preach evil in the name of your religion, and you and unwilling to get your fellow Muslims to do that, than all your claims of the peaceful nature of Islam will fall on deaf ears. How do you expect to change our view of Islam, if you won't even do that. I gave you some friendly advice, but you just won't take it. Yes you might be able to find a few positive verses in the Koran, but so what? It still doesn't delete all the hate filled negative verses.
Teddy3inDC,
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(Quran 60:7-8):
"It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just."
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Read my response to your previous Comment.
Teddy3inDC,
By the way, sorry about deleting so many of my previous posts and rewriting them, but I mind a lot of stupid mistakes that needed fixing and I didn't notice them until after I posted them. That's what happens when you are in a hurry.
“the terrorists are simply doing what the Koran tells them. It says that it is the duty of Muslims to convert the world by any means necessary and that includes Coarsen, which also includes terrorism. Do yourself a favor and read the Koran and realize that you yourself are being condemned by it, for fighting on behalf of the United States, because the United States is not a Muslim country”
1.Tell me where in the Quran I can find this. That is your new job.
2.The United States is a country without religion,...... Hence the right to choose, the separation of church and state, and the list continues. I tell you what, come to my home and make me change my religion legally and we will see if your arguments hold true.
“it is your place, and by not having a significant number of Muslims condemning those who call themselves Muslims who call for the death of unbelievers, it makes it look like they have wide spread support. If they have wide spread support among Muslims, it gives me reason to fear the day that Islam becomes dominate here”
1.Who gave me the power to Judge over this?
2.Why would you fear anything?
3.If you were sure about your concerns of Islam, as a religion and it's wrongness, then you wouldn't fear anything about it.
4.Muslims don't condemn each other. There are bad people, but no one is allowed to say who is bad and who is not. God Judges justly in a way that we cannot comprehend.
5.It is not support that drive people, it is recognition. If someone continues to fight against the religion (like yourself), there will be equal force in it's retaliation (like me)
“Really? What about a law that violates the US constitution or human dignity. Sharia violates the Constitution? By the way, don't tell me that the Koran supersedes the constitution, in fact if you do, please leave this country and go live in Saudi Arabia, and see if you like it. And by the way, if you do like it, please don't come back to America. Also don't just stay away from America or the west, stay away from any non Islamic country.”
1.Word of God or Word of Man, Don't be silly and think you are doing me a favor
2.Muslims in the United States go by rules of this country out of respect and will of the people here. Muslims in the East can do what they feel because they are not in this country. Who cares if Sharia courts rule there? That is their country and their rules. Do not think you are going to change that.
3.The Quran does supersede the constitution. How many times has the constitution changed? How many times has the Quran?
4.I have served this country and your right to speech, as well as mine. I think I will stay and enjoy my terrific home and terrific neighbors (who are Christian)
5.I will return after my Hajj. Don't tell me what to do, because you have no authority over me.
6.When you act as you have in your last sentence, you loose credibility with your friends. How many Americans are going to tell a Marine to leave his lovely country and never come back. Please have respect for yourself and every others God fearing person in the world. Wish upon others as you wish upon yourself. God Bless You.
“Really? You will not deny anyone's ideas? You just did! You denied what I am saying.”
1.I listened and gave you may opinion
2.I backed my opinion with Quranic versus
3.I asked you to do research
4.I admit that I disagree, but I also said that I saw your point. Your are losing ground as fast as you write friend.
“The deepening humanitarian crisis, mostly unnoticed by the Western world, is laid bare by the numbers”
1.Great numbers. Did you witness these?
2.Where are the domestic abuse numbers for the United States for comparisons. Please do equal comparison.
“Actually I know of a few very wise atheists who never pray to God and yet they are still wise, some perhaps wiser than me.”
1.Humility perchance
2.Wiseness comes with age and degrees of suffering. Wiseness comes with growth. Wise is the understanding that there is more to learn in the world, but being able to recognized the patterns. Would you like to guess my age?
3.I know many an atheists who never pray to God, but I have never heard many say the things that you have.
“Well than, how dare you hypocritically pass judgment on me.”
1.I did not pass judgment. Judgment has consequences.
2.I gave my opinion of 'who I think you are', not who you are, or what you 'have' to do as a reflection of your statements. You however stated that I need to leave, Muslims need to admit, the Quran is wrong..... You catching my drift.
3.I said also that I wish you the best. I complemented you. I praised your awareness.
4.I said you heart was dark, but I didn't say dark was wrong. I am black does that mean that I think I am wrong. God created you for a purpose, and maybe you are fulfilling it by talking to me. For that fact, may God grant you the most eloquent words for you hatred of love and submitting.
“Fine, good for you”
1.And also for you
“but do you honestly expect me to believe that no Muslim out there thinks he's better than me, because of his religion when many of them are committing terrorists atrocities against unbelievers in the name of their religion”
1.No, I don't expect anything from you
2.No, You don't have to think that
3.KKK members commit atrocities based on color and creed, however they are not right. Terror is wrong in any sense, but I also said that there are bad people anywhere. Bad Muslims, Bad Christians, Bad Pagans. They are bad in the eyes of God for their atrocities, and God has said that in the Quran. People do all sorts of bad things, but the RELIGION does not.
“Fine, but Jihadist and free thinker aren't exactly compatible”
1.A Jihadist does what Jihad is. Struggle.
2.There are many forms of struggle. Example I am struggling to give you a proper understanding.
3.I am struggling to give you my opinion
4.I am struggling to get you to stop hating
5.Me and freethinking are good friends, but that has not stop my from being a Jihadi
“how do you expect to refute the claim that Islam is a violate hate filled intolerant religion, or get the non Islamic world to stop viewing it, with fear and suspicion?”
1.Islam by definition is peace. What more can I say.
2.The Quran says that we are here to learn and worship, that is the opposite of intolerants.
3.You should read my previous postings.
4.People fear what the can't understand, Hate what they can't conquer, That is the fury of Man, Not the religion.
“Again, you condemn judging anyone's ideas, yet you condemn mine”
1.I outline your faults
2.I have not given you a punishment
3.I respect your ideas
4.I listen
5.I read
6.I disagree
7.I have not thrown you under a bus, nor have I stifled your opinion. Condemning would be me finding you and sowing your mouth and fingers together. That is something I will NEVER do.
Thank you again for giving me reason to voice my opinion. You are getting very good at pulling this out of me. You are a Great writer and thought provoking tool. May God Bless you yet again, and again, and again.
I am willing to do what is told of me to do by Allah, and after he tells us what to do, HE also tells us that we cannot judge less we be judge by the same weight. He also states that we must be ever compassionate and merciful because we want to please our God who is The Compassionate and The Merciful. Islam falls on open ears, and the dear eyes pass. Cars drive faster in the night with lights on then they do in the dark without.
You cannot give good advice without admitting your own issues also. I have a hard time understanding your point, so I ask you politely to give me those hate filled versus you are talking of. If there is something I cannot explain, or if there is something you dislike, kindly rewrite it and follow it to a T without any changes.
We all make mistakes in way of grammar and word choices. I have you have, so what is the concern. Suggestion, Slow down.
BTW. All of these post are also going to http://teddy3indc.blogspot.com/
Teddy3inDC,
I'm sorry I won't be able to respond on a point by point basis this time, due to a a lack of time. However, I will address some of your more serious responses.
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“the terrorists are simply doing what the Koran tells them. It says that it is the duty of Muslims to convert the world by any means necessary and that includes Coarsen, which also includes terrorism. Do yourself a favor and read the Koran and realize that you yourself are being condemned by it, for fighting on behalf of the United States, because the United States is not a Muslim country”
1.Tell me where in the Quran I can find this. That is your new job.
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Okay,
2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
(2:191-2) "Slay them wherever ye find them."
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.)
(2:193) "Fight them until ... religion is for Allah."
Source, The Skeptics anointed Quranyou wrote,
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2.The United States is a country without religion,...... Hence the right to choose, the separation of church and state, and the list continues. I tell you what, come to my home and make me change my religion legally and we will see if your arguments hold true.
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The United States is a country with freedom of religion, and the separation of Church and state. However there is no separation of religion and state in Saudi Arabia and in most Muslim countries. If I wrote any thing that made you think that I was saying you didn't have a right to your religious beliefs you must have misinterpreted what I wrote.
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4.Muslims don't condemn each other. There are bad people, but no one is allowed to say who is bad and who is not. God Judges justly in a way that we cannot comprehend.
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Really, and is that supposed to make us feel better? The fact that you won't condemn Muslims who call for our Submission, conversion or Death? I would condemn people of any religion or lack thereof who demanded that people agree with them or else.
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1.Word of God or Word of Man, Don't be silly and think you are doing me a favor
2.Muslims in the United States go by rules of this country out of respect and will of the people here. Muslims in the East can do what they feel because they are not in this country. Who cares if Sharia courts rule there? That is their country and their rules. Do not think you are going to change that.
3.The Quran does supersede the constitution. How many times has the constitution changed? How many times has the Quran?
4.I have served this country and your right to speech, as well as mine. I think I will stay and enjoy my terrific home and terrific neighbors (who are Christian)
5.I will return after my Hajj. Don't tell me what to do, because you have no authority over me.
6.When you act as you have in your last sentence, you loose credibility with your friends. How many Americans are going to tell a Marine to leave his lovely country and never come back. Please have respect for yourself and every others God fearing person in the world. Wish upon others as you wish upon yourself. God Bless You.
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Actually I care, about what goes on in other countries largely because what it might mean for my own country, but beyond that, it is inhuman to force someone to believe in something that they don't want to, and that goes on all the time in Saudi Arabia. As far as I'm concerned, most of the Middle east is barbaric, for that and many other reasons. What goes on over there needs to be condemned, just to keep it from happening here. Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia are barbaric, because of how women are treated there. Things like four male witness to prove a rape, and that's just to start with. In an ideal world such societies would not exist.
Also the fact that the constitution has changed does not make it inferior to the Koran! In fact, the fact that it can be changed is a good thing. It means it can be improved. The same logic could be used to argue that the Bible supersedes the constitution, but no it does not. I wouldn't want any on the Supreme Court who believed that Biblical law should be placed above the Constitution. The same goes for the Koran, but even more so.
If you know what Sharia is, and you want it to be the law here, I don't want you living in my country. If you risk your life defending America, against people who want to impose Sharia on us, and you actually want Sharia to be the law of the land here, than your actions make no sense. Sharia is not compatible with the Constitution or any notion of individual rights or human rights. Sharia is the Antithasis of the Constitution and no good American could support it, knowing what it is. In fact it is your duty as an American to oppose it.
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“The deepening humanitarian crisis, mostly unnoticed by the Western world, is laid bare by the numbers”
1.Great numbers. Did you witness these?
2.Where are the domestic abuse numbers for the United States for comparisons. Please do equal comparison.
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No I did not witness them first hand, but I was quoting a reliable source.
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1.A Jihadist does what Jihad is. Struggle.
2.There are many forms of struggle. Example I am struggling to give you a proper understanding.
3.I am struggling to give you my opinion
4.I am struggling to get you to stop hating
5.Me and freethinking are good friends, but that has not stop my from being a Jihadi
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Tell that to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, The Iranian Mullahs, Al Quaeda, The Taliban and Osama Bin Ladin.
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1.Islam by definition is peace. What more can I say.
2.The Quran says that we are here to learn and worship, that is the opposite of intolerants.
3.You should read my previous postings.
4.People fear what the can't understand, Hate what they can't conquer, That is the fury of Man, Not the religion.
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Okay than, condemn anyone who demands that people submit to Islam against their will. If this is the case, why won't you denounce any attempt to force people to live according to Sharia?
In fact why won't you condemn Sharia, which is brutal and barbaric?
“Again, you condemn judging anyone's ideas, yet you condemn mine”
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1.I outline your faults
2.I have not given you a punishment
3.I respect your ideas
4.I listen
5.I read
6.I disagree
7.I have not thrown you under a bus, nor have I stifled your opinion. Condemning would be me finding you and sowing your mouth and fingers together. That is something I will NEVER do.
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I don't think that you deserve punishment, but you are judging my ideas, even through you say I shouldn't judge yours. I am glad that you respect my ideas, however you are wrong. If you don't have a problem with Sharia, maybe its because you don't understand it, or just refuse to look at what it actually is. If you don't believe me, If you still think I'm wrong, please talk to the people who run "Muslims against Sharia" and ask them what Sharia is.
You really should stop so I don't get tired of typing.
“Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits…191And slay them wherever ye catch them. and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they (first) fight you there; But if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. 192 But if they cease, Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 193And fight them on until there is no more persecution. And the religion becomes Allah’s. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression 194 The sacred month is for the sacred month and for the prohibited things there is the Law of Equality. Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you likewise transgress him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with the pious.” (Surah 2:190-194)
To concrete my previous statements.
The Quran, of Allah, Tells of what to do when being faced with aggression.
190- Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits.
*Allah gives us here just reason to fight, and clearly gives us a means of watching those limits. If you are of righteousness then you will fight with God in mind. If you do so you will only do so in defense, and once the offense is halted and turns away, one should halt and rest.
191-And slay them wherever ye catch them. and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they (first) fight you there; But if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith
*And kill them where you catch them.- clearly means to catch them as they transgress on you if you read 190 first.
*And turn them out from where they have turned you out. - Defensive in nature. First the aggressor is named as the transgressor, then told of what they will do. Afterwards the defenders are told to turn them back around.
*For persecution is worse than slaughter.- If someone persecutes you for believes and creed they provoke your disdain and vengeance. A strong victory is always referred to as a slaughter to the defenders, and a good victory is therefore better for the defenders, the weak, and the God fearing, than their previous persecution.
*But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they (first) fight you there- Cut and dry. How can someone on the attack fight the enemy on the defenders soil. The sacred Mosque will not be a place where Muslim would fight because it is a Holy and sacred place.
*But if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith- If someone attacks you at prayer or in a neutral zone, they have embarked on a very dangerous ship. The utmost disrespect is fighting someone while they are in a defenseless state. If someone does so they deserve the harsh treatment of death in battle. If someone can go to battle to slaughter the praying they honestly they deserve the slaughter they receive. If you fight against someone to the point that there is no respect you have given away you right to be respected. That is a lesson that everyone in the world goes by.
192-But if they cease, Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful
*If they stop then you stop for the love of Allah. He gives us will power to control our rage, for the simple fact that he wants us to emulate him. Forgiveness and Mercy are central to the Muslim.
193- And fight them on until there is no more persecution. And the religion becomes Allah’s. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression
*And fight them until there is no more persecution.- If someone fights you, and persecutes you, one has the right to fight back. That's what equality is all about. This country was founded on the search for freedom of persecution, and thrived on the basis of it. Why do you think we had the civil rights movements? It is the act of stopping ill treatment that earns the halt of fighting against something. What is there to fight about if everyone is respected and treated properly.
*And the Religion become Allah's. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.- Again same concept. Cease, but unto those who continue. This meaning the intolerant people of the group who continue to put you down.
194- The sacred month is for the sacred month and for the prohibited things there is the Law of Equality. Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you likewise transgress him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with the pious
*The sacred month is for the sacred month and for the prohibited things there is the Law of Equality- Ramadan is sacred to Muslims, when Muslims fast, and are most humble.
*The whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you likewise transgress him.- If someone has no respect for your custom then you need not respect his. Equal representation of force is to be met.
*And fear Allah, and Know that Allah is with the pious.- Here is a warning though not to conduct falsely and to fear the One True Creator.
I don't know where you could have go your outstandingly false notion of a evil Quran, but you sir are incorrect here. That is my opinion. But like I said in my very first posting, We can see the exact same things, and because of our minds, We will see them in different light.
(Example- If you and three buddies break into my house to steal something or harm me, I have the right to defend my home. If I fire a warning shot and everyone leaves the house but one who continues to charge at me, guess who is taking two to the chest and one to the head, but the one who continues and does not heed my warning.) God gives me this right. God never says that it is okay to attack. Anyone who does this will surely Burn in the hell fire, but I cannot say who that person may be.
The United States is a country with freedom of religion, and the separation of Church and state. However there is no separation of religion and state in Saudi Arabia and in most Muslim countries. If I wrote any thing that made you think that I was saying you didn't have a right to your religious beliefs you must have misinterpreted what I wrote.
Okay fine. My bad. Maybe I miss interpreted you. I am sure most people would have however. Your comments were very specific.
Really, and is that supposed to make us feel better? The fact that you won't condemn Muslims who call for our Submission, conversion or Death? I would condemn people of any religion or lack thereof who demanded that people agree with them or else.
I don't want to make you feel good. I want you to know the truth about a different group of people. You say “us” like you represent everyone. Trust me you don't. I don't condemn anyone, and I do not support anyone who is the oppressor, regardless of affiliation. If you do so then I would like you to go to the next KKK, skin head, or Nazi party meetings and voice your opinions there. If you say it, then you should do it. Make sure you take a good camera and video recording device. I will help you locate the meetings myself. Good luck and God bless.
“it is inhuman to force someone to believe in something that they don't want to”
- Who is saying it is?
“most of the Middle east is barbaric”
-Define barbaric
-Tell me about your trip there.
-Compare that to the treatment of Slave, Indians, Mexicans, Jews, Irish, non-Muslim Arabs, Chinesse, etc. in our very own country. Tell me which is worse a be prepared to back your thesis up with facts.
“What goes on over there needs to be condemned”
-Who can condemn it?
-Who can condemn it, without seeing it?
- What would the punishment be?
-Who would judge the rulings and carry out the punishment.
“Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia are barbaric, because of how women are treated there”
How courageous are you?(sarcastically)
What are you doing to help the woman here?
How well do you treat your wife?
Have you ever committed adultery?
Have you ever been told that you are the bread winner, and your wife should stay at home?
Has you woman ever worn something you asked her to change?
How many woman have you slept with?
Compare the difference with American men sleeping with 30+ women in a year, spreading herpes, AIDS, HIV, and gonorrhea, to a society where one partner is cherished.
“Things like four male witness to prove a rape”
How many would you like
Witnesses can also be police officers who do the investigation, no?
How many cases of rape were there in Muslim countries compared to the United States?
Also the fact that the constitution has changed does not make it inferior to the Koran! In fact, the fact that it can be changed is a good thing. It means it can be improved. The same logic could be used to argue that the Bible supersedes the constitution, but no it does not. I wouldn't want any on the Supreme Court who believed that Biblical law should be placed above the Constitution. The same goes for the Koran, but even more so.
The constitution is great! Even during the time it was written, it barely passed. Many thought it allowed to much government control. Many thought it didn't have enough governmental control. It has been written, changed, and revised. A perfect document needs no revisions. The Quran is the only book never to be revised, and is also the most memorize book on the planet! How can you say something man made is superior to God's book. Do you also think the constitution is superior to the Bible. The Quran's means don't need improvement. It details one of the worlds largest movements in history, and doesn't have to be changed to fit world views. You are surely not a believer in any stretch of the imagination. First you deny the Quran and The Bible as God's books, then you say they both are inferior to the words of men. You dare compare the words we use to the words of Moses, Jesus, Mohammad and Noah. Sir, for the first time I will strictly say you are wrong. Even with the Bibles falsehoods, I would follow it way before a doctrine you wrote. I really want you to write something better then either one of the Two Great Books.
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f you know what Sharia is, and you want it to be the law here, I don't want you living in my country. If you risk your life defending America, against people who want to impose Sharia on us, and you actually want Sharia to be the law of the land here, than your actions make no sense. Sharia is not compatible with the Constitution or any notion of individual rights or human rights. Sharia is the Antithasis of the Constitution and no good American could support it, knowing what it is. In fact it is your duty as an American to oppose it.
I want to protect everyone from falsehoods and suspicion.
I did not say I wanted Sharia law here.
I will stay, thank you
correct! This country has the constitution and they are not compatible. However human rights and individual rights are given by God and protected by government. You cannot say that everyone in the Middle East is being oppressed. If they were then Islam would make them revolt.
It is my duty as an American to be American and that is all. My outstanding sense of duty compels me to protect, honor and serve. Does your compassion tell you to serve? As a God fearing American my job is to love, respect, and understand our differences. That is all.
“Tell that to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, The Iranian Mullahs, Al Quaeda, The Taliban and Osama Bin Ladin”
-If I meet them I would tell them I disagree and why. I can not pass judgment. They do what they think is right just as you do when you wish death on them, and wish me to leave for good.
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Okay than, condemn anyone who demands that people submit to Islam against their will. If this is the case, why won't you denounce any attempt to force people to live according to Sharia?
In fact why won't you condemn Sharia, which is brutal and barbaric?
“Again, you condemn judging anyone's ideas, yet you condemn mine”
I will not condemn anyone who ask people to submit to Allah. I disagree with those who oppress however. The will get their rewards and I am not responsible to them nor you. No one should submit against their will, that is why Islam is spread with words rather then swords. I am not at your doorstep with a weapon am I. I will combat anyone who forces themselves on me, and that is all. Like I said a million times, Leave the condemning to God alone.
I have not condemned your ideas. You still have them and are able to voice them right. I have no power over you and we are equals. Stop saying that I condemn you this, condemn you that. Find a new word, because I am getting tired of this banter.
I don't think that you deserve punishment, but you are judging my ideas, even through you say I shouldn't judge yours. I am glad that you respect my ideas, however you are wrong. If you don't have a problem with Sharia, maybe its because you don't understand it, or just refuse to look at what it actually is. If you don't believe me, If you still think I'm wrong, please talk to the people who run "Muslims against Sharia" and ask them what Sharia is.
I don't deserve punishment, thank you very much.
I am opinionated about your ideas, yes. Judgmental I am not because I have no power to change you views, or your way of saying them. To pass judgment is to dish out reward or punishment for actions. Your actions spread one word, and mine another. If I were to Judge you for one thing like that, God will judge me equally with you. The act of Judgment is wrong enough for me to deal with The Creators punishment.
OK so you say I am wrong. About what exactly. Let me help get clarification
Would you like to take a poll?
Poll Question
Has Teddy3indc, after reading his posts, mistreated Damian?
1.Yes
2.No
3.Maybe
4.I didn't read his posts
5.Damien deserves it
6.Teddy3indc deserves it
Has there been equal opportunity to voice one's opinion on this blog?
1.Yes
2.No
3.Maybe
4.I didn't read these posts
5.Damien deserves more
6.Teddy3indc deserves more
Damian. I have been to that site today and I do not agree with their credo. Sounds like it is written by non-Muslims. Most of them, if they believe the Quran is mistaken, shouldn't believe in the Quran at all. If something has mistakes then it cannot be true. The Quran has no mistakes. Again I say find they and please let me know. I do not agree with most of their creed or goals, and I am a Muslim. They seem misguided.
Why don't you follow them. (All statements that follow are very sarcastically written for the intention of highlighting obvious wrongs of sinners) Convert today so you can say you are a Muslim against everything that is Muslim!!!!! Keep drinking, It is hip! Keep fornicating, STD's are cool! Keep denying God, he will not care! Live Life for yourself, the world will be fine! Keep repenting for sins you plan on doing tomorrow!!!! This and many more secrets of the flesh will be yours if you on submit to yourself and the devil!
Oh my Damien,
Forgive my tiredness and quick posts. I forgot to give you warm wishes and blessings. May God bestow you with what it is that you seek, whether you have said that overtly or subtly. May you receive the blessings of peace and tranquility associated with care, love, and understanding. May the word of God be given to you in earnestness and clarity. May you be blessed with ease of acceptance and learning.
In the name of God, the Infinitely Compassionate and Merciful
Praise be to God, ruler of all worlds.
The Compassionate, The Merciful.Lord of the Day of Reckoning,
You alone do we worship and you alone do we seek for help.
Guide us on the straight path.
The path of those who have receive your grace, and not the path of those who have brought down your wrath, nor the path of those who have gone astray.
May our prayers be answered! May it be!
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