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Wednesday, June 10, 2009

WTF??? Updated and Bumped

UPDATED: The Vlad Tepes Blog has some good reporting on the Holocaust Museum shooting:

I resent the way the MSM is portraying the shooter, a National Socialist, as being portrayed as a rightwing extremist.

First, some of James Von Brunn’s sick writings:

Christianity and the Holocaust: They’re both hoaxes, apparently. Hatred of Christianity and Judaism, Christians and Jews, is very, very leftwing.

Hitler’s Worst Mistake: He Didn’t Gas the Jews. I used a cached page for when the Ministry of Information finds it in five minutes and shuts down that server too. They don’t like it when Demonazis don’t use Hillary’s doublespeak.

MSNBC is reporting the gunman is a probable white supremecist and is 88 years old!?!?

Law enforcement officials identified the suspect as James Wenneker von Brunn,
88, from the Eastern Shore of Maryland, NBC News reported. NBC said he may have had connections to hate groups or anti-government groups.
Revere's right. Nappy's dusting off that militia memo for redistribution. . .

2 People Shot at U.S. Holocaust Museum

Updated by Washington Post:

By Debbi Wilgoren and William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 10, 2009; 2:52 PM

A gunman armed with a shotgun walked into the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in downtown Washington today and opened fire on a security guard before being shot and seriously wounded by two other guards, authorities said.

The security guard and the gunman were both transported to George Washington University Hospital with serious injuries, police said. A hospital spokesperson declined to release information on the condition of the two.

A third person sustained minor injuries in the shooting, according to police.

A law enforcement source identified the gunman as James W. von Brunn, who is known to authorities as a white supremacist.

Sgt. David Schlosser, a spokesman for the U.S. Park Police, said the security guard and the gunman were the only two persons who were hit by gunshots. Initial reports said at least one other person sustained gunshot wounds.

He said the museum has been "completely secured and evacuated."

A spokesman for the museum, Andy Hollinger, said in a statement that after the gunman opened fire, "two Museum security officers returned fire hitting the assailant."

A security guard and two other people were shot today inside the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in downtown Washington, authorities said.

U.S. Park Police said a gunman armed with a shotgun opened fire on the security guard and that other security guards returned fire. The gunman was reported wounded.

The shooting was reported to police at 12:52 p.m., and officers rushed to the scene just south of Independence Ave. bordering the Mall.

Scores of police and emergency vehicles converged on the scene, blocking 14th Street, a major artery between downtown Washington and the Virginia suburbs.

D.C. Fire and Emergency Medical Services Department spokesman Alan Etter said there was no immediate information on the shooter. He said two men were transported to a hospital with
"serious" gunshot wounds.

MSNBC Update: The guard, identified by the museum as Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns, died later in the hospital. Johns had worked at the museum for six years.


Fucking Jeremiah Wright. Someone staple his fucking mouth shut.

Rob Taylor at Red Alerts (thanks, Damien!)

So It Begins: Shots Fired at Holocaust Museum in D.C After Jeremiah Wright Claims “Them Jews” are Controlling Obama Update: 9/11 Truther the Perpetrator

I’ve been blogging about the rising levels of anti-Semitism on the left being used to build bridges with both the Islamist community and the White Supremacists who have in turn hitched their wagon to their fellow Jew hating degenerates. Grave desecration and random attacks on Jews have been on the upswing, as has been the “anti-Zionist” rhetoric of even mainstream lefties.

Today just scant hours after it was reported “Rev.” Jeremiah Wright made wildly anti-Semitic statements in an interview a gunman walked into the Holocaust Museum and started a shoot out. From Fox.com:

At least two people were shot after a man opened fire inside the national Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, officials said.

The suspect has been arrested, according to a law enforcement source.

Reports said the suspect first shot a security guard, and that another guard returned fire, wounding the alleged shooter.

There are conflicting reports about how many people were shot.

Right now two people are being reported shot, one the gunman, and one person injured by flying glass.

Fox is reporting that they believe the shooter was a local.

How do I link Wright’s statement to this atrocity? Read it yourself and tell me it’s not incitement:

Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: “Them Jews aren’t
going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in
five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office.

“They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. …
I said from the beginning: He’s a politician; I’m a pastor. He’s got to do what
politicians do.”

Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World
Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the
president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.

“Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a
sin and a crime against humanity, and they don’t want Barack talking like that
because that’s anti-Israel,” Wright said.

So Jews are Nazis blah, blah. This kind of rhetoric started on the now defunct MoveOn.Org forums and migrated to every lefty group that’s active. I heard a couple of hipsters claim that same thing while on line at Starbucks, and just wasted about 30 mins last night arguing with a person on Twitter who claims Jews stole Arabs’ land and should “give it back” to the rightful owners. Anti-Semitism and pro-Islamism is on the rise in America and this is the result, and more incidents like this will happen until we confront the purveyors of this hatred and drive them from the public discourse.

Update: Shooter identified as 9/11 Truther/White Nationalists James Von Brunn. Von Brunn once tried to place the Federal Reserve under arrest. Von Brunn has called America a “Jew Vassal State” in the comments on this post. He’s a Eugenics advocate who claims “Marxism-Multiculturalism-Judaism” are destroying America.

His racialist philosophy and politics mirrors Muslim convert James Stenzel’s Jew Watch.

Fox is reporting that Von Brunn was called “an ass” by Tom Clancy.

He also went by Jim Von Brunn.

Update: James Von Brunn believed Mossad was responsible for the Bali bombings. He tried to pitch a script to Mel Gibson through Infowars.

Yours is an excellent site. Thanks for your efforts.KEEP FIGHTING!


Maybe Alex Jones not responding to him set him off?

Update: Here’s a letter Von Brunn wrote to Earthrainbownetwork.com about 9/11:


The fixed population of both World Trade Center towers (8am) on Sept 11,
2001: 38,500Visitors at any one time during the day: 3,900TOTAL population:

Experts’ initial estimate of total killed: 6,000Total deaths recorded as of
this date: 2,800Total Israeli people killed: 1

Evacuation experts estimate buildings were only 30% occupied: 2,720Those
absent from work that day: 29,680

One Israeli National died in the WTC. Many didn’t show up that day - the
Odigo Instant Messaging apparently gave a two-hour warning prior to the

Update: Von Brunn was a member of the Ron Paul for President Yahoo group where he posted crazy rants about how Israel was founded by Murder Inc.

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Anonymous revereridesagain said...

There were two field trips' worth of kids from Danvers and Swampscott, the towns just south and northwest of me, in there at the time. Maybe that will get some people around this area to put down the kool-aid and pay attention, dammit.

And right on the heels of Wright's "them Jews" remark.

Name and mug shot please...

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:25:00 pm  
Anonymous revereridesagain said...

Oh cripes. FOX is reporting the shooter has "ties to a white supremacist group". Napolitano must be breaking out the champagne.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:34:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:34:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

delusively scrubbing the bloodstains of history with more innocent blood

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:53:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

midnight rider,

I have a gut feeling that this guy was either a Nazi or a Jihadist.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:56:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Damien -- my gut feeling was Nazi/supremecist. Backed up now by what Revere said.

Call me stereotyping but I can't see a Jihadi using a shotgun. They seem more into the automatic weapons and things that go kaboom.

Hope everyone but the shooter comes through this okay.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:59:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NBC's Williams says the suspect is 89 years old. He reports that the suspect is in critical condition with a shot to the head.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:01:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

midnight rider,

Also your suspicion has just been backed up by this recent post on this psycho by by Rob Taylor of Red Alerts. I just found it a moment ago. You should read it. Like most of his commentaries, its very interesting.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:03:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


While I don't feel much sympathy for the guy, I'm somewhat disappointed, I wanted him to get his day in court.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:05:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how the hell did an 89 year old manage to bring a long gun through the National Mall unnoticed?

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:20:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


I have no idea, how he managed to get in there with that gun. Ether he was very clever, he bribed someone or security was just extremely lax when it happened.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:23:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

midnight rider,

Glad you found the link I sent you useful.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:25:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Our local news here in D.C. has just reported that the museum guard has died.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:27:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

On Stormfront's site, Von Brunn is listed as a hero.


Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:28:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

As one local to D.C., I have, of course, been to the museum.

I can't understand how Von Brunn got in there with a long rifle!

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:29:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

As old as Von Brunn is now, I'm wondering if he just pulled a Manson -- you know, trying to start a race war.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:32:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Long rifle -- I've seen both shotgun and rifle reported.

Both can be modified to almost easy concealability, but especially the shotgun can be taken down to the size of a large handgun and hide (briefly) under a windbreaker or overly large untucked shirt.

If it were a shotgun that may explain it. So may lax security. A rifle is harder to modify that small but can still be done.

Additionally (& I've never been to the museum so I don't know if they even have them) we don't know if the shooting took place before or after any metal detectors.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:35:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

I believe it was a long rifle. Visitors at the museum at first thought he was a Civil War re-enactor. One visitor interviewed on our local news said that he was wearing a Confederate hat.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:46:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Excerpt from this article at Belief Net:

James W. von Brunn is not only a bitter old white supremacist; he is also a member of Mensa and a decorated veteran who served as a PT boat captain during World War II. These facts will raise at least two different and equally important issues.

First, the identity of the shooter in today's attack will no doubt frustrate the hate-filled and fear-driven voices which have filled the internet this afternoon, voices which were already explaining how we could "know" that this was the work of Muslims. Some went so far as to blame President Obama and his speech in Cairo for inviting such an attack by Muslims empowered to take revenge on America and upon Jews. I wish I was kidding or even exaggerating, but I am not.

Second, this will unsettle all those who blithely assume that ethnic, religious or racial hatred is the domain strictly of stupid or unaccomplished people. While contrary to fifty years ago, the social acceptability of expressing such hatreds tends to limit itself to the lower echelons of society, the challenge is present at all levels of our culture. To be sure, it is nowhere near as common as it once was, but neither is it something to be ignored....

I heard similar words on FNC a few minutes ago.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:50:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

The museum has those electronic screens to walk through. I don't recall how close the screens are to the door.

Von Brunn might have been able to stand on the outside of the screen and fire inward.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:51:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

And if he was dressed as a reenactor most people would have thought little of it until too late.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:01:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

The guard was has died is black. I just found his picture on the web -- at MSNBC or CNN.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:02:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Von Brunn was a convicted felon. He had served 6.5 years for a crime he committed back in 1981.

So, how did he legally have a firearm???

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:06:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Depending on how old the gun was, the type and where he bought it, a private party to private party sale requires no background check or documentation which, this incident aside, is what the Founders had in mind and is as it should be.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:10:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

A possible associate with the message board at Free Republic?

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:12:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Article just published by the Examiner. Worth a read.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:18:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I think the Red Alerts post is worthwhile considering in the sense that the anti-Semitism of Wright and Stormfront types are linked ideologically.

However, I think it is unreasonable to believe a Stormfronter is taking his orders from Jeremiah Wright.

If this did happen to be the case, then such an alliance would portend horrible things for the future of this country.

However, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that such an alliance has been formed.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:22:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

This screen shot, of a page from Stormfront, is evidence that, if such an alliance had already been formed, the members of Stormfront are not in on it.


Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:26:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think it was our Founding Father's intention that convicted felons should own guns.

And, even if that were the case, do you think it's a good idea?

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:30:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue

It's just another scumbag ultra right schmendrick with a gun, and we all have to realize that all the morons of the left, right, LaRouchian, conspiracy, ZOG, white hating black hating jew hating christian hating pope hating ..


They have nothing to do with politics

They are outside the system of thought and are triggered by anything from a repo notice to flatulence

Wright in self identifying, and almost makes the grade. But he's smarter. It's about money and power for him. His racism is utilitarian as WELL AS SICK

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:50:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

Always On Watch,

You wrote,
On Stormfront's site, Von Brunn is listed as a hero.


I'm not surprised, neither should you or anyone else be. Storm Front honoring him, is like Jihadists honoring Osama Bin Ladin. He's their ideal man, a racist, antisemitic nut job, who puts his rage and hatred into violent action.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:02:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Epa is so apoplectic he is going all Airplane on us.


Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:05:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


You wrote,
I think the Red Alerts post is worthwhile considering in the sense that the anti-Semitism of Wright and Stormfront types are linked ideologically.

Its important largely because most people either fail to see it or don't have the guts to point it out. Many people will insists that blacks can't be racists because they don't have the power. But racism is still racism, and irrational hatred is still irrational hatred, even if the person with such feelings has no ability to get what he wants. Racism is an attitude, and black bigotry is just as morally repulsive as white bigotry.

you wrote,
However, I think it is unreasonable to believe a Stormfronter is taking his orders from Jeremiah Wright.

You are correct, that is very unlikely, in large part because Storm Front is a white supremacist organization, and Wright is a black man. People in Storm Front not only want another holocaust, but would probably also support putting black people, including Wright, back in chains. It would be strange, indeed if they were taking orders from him.

you wrote,
If this did happen to be the case, then such an alliance would portend horrible things for the future of this country.

I would have to agree, if the Rev. wright and Nazis joined forces it would not hold well for the future of this country.

you wrote,
However, to my knowledge, there is no evidence that such an alliance has been formed.

Which means that most likely there is not one.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:17:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

By the way, for anyone who's interested, Rob Taylor, just did another post on James Von Brunn

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:22:00 pm  
Anonymous Total said...

MR, from what I heard, the Gestapo Geezer was packing a sawed-off shotgun. That makes plenty of sense how he could have easily concealed it, like you said.

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:55:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Total -- I hadn't heard that but that's exactly what I was thinking.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:02:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...


That makes sense. A sawed off shotgun sounds a bit easier to conceal than one of those old long rifles. It also would have a faster rate of fire. Which would explain how he was able to shot two people before being taken down.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:17:00 am  
Blogger midnight rider said...

(there will be sarcasm in this response most likely. It is not directed at anyone here, but at our stupid laws and CJ system)

Pasto -- Should convicted felons be allowed to own guns?

Depends on what they were convicted of, I say.

That kind of law cannot be applied evenly, although that is what the gun control crowd tries to do.

A murderer, rapist, wife batterer, no, of course not, they should not be allowed to have a gun. BUT NEITHER SHOULD THEY BE OUT ON THE STREET IN THE FIRST PLACE. And with the limited info I have, neither should Brunn have been.

Why is it a father who has defended his wife or daughter in public or in the home penalized AS A FELON and yet a gangbanger can get off scotfree? Or very near to it? And why should that father, uopon his release, NOT be allowed to own a gun when that gangbanger comes knocking for the wife or daughter WITH A GUN HE PURCHASED, OR STOLE, ILLEGALLY? AND WHY IS HE EVEN ON TH STREET TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT GUN?

Yet we'll lock away a father who doesn't EARN enough money to pay support or alimony ad let loose some serial killer who has been able to get off on an insanity plea.

How about a 45 yr old happily married mother of 2? One night when she was 23 or 24 she ahd a little too much to drink. Not enough to be visibly impaired but impaired nevertheless. Crosses the centerline, head on with a 65 yr old man. COnvicted of manslaghter(as she should be). Does whatever time is required. Now, she's a convicted felon. 21 years later, driving home from work late at night car breaks down in a less than desirable part of town.

Body found the next morning in a dumpster raped mutilated and strangled. And she couldn't protect herself becasue she was a felon and couldn't own a gun.

Brunn could have gone on a rampage with a hammer or knife or whatever. He chose a gun.

The gun is not the problem. The gun is a criminal justice system gone overly soft over the years and allows the wrong people to walk after the most aggregious of crimes while wasting time money and space on candyass bullshit.

So yes, I do believe the Founding Fathers intended just that. ANy free man or woman could own a gun. For personal protection, home & town defense and to be used, as a last resort, against a tyrranical government.

What they never thought they'd see is violent felons allowed to walk as freely as they are these days. Their penalties were more severe. And meted out without liberal lawyers interested only in sensationalism and the dollar to get their clients off, justice be damned.

Do you think O.J. would have walked if Jefferson and Adams and Washington had been on that jury? Or do you thin k we'd never have to worry about him, or anyone like him, trying to own a gun?

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:31:00 am  
Blogger midnight rider said...

"The gun is not the problem. The PROBLEM 9not gun) is a criminal justice system. . ."

Sorry about that.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:32:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...


In my response to your gun question, I'm a second amendment supporter. I am not a fan of gun control. But there are limits. I don't think that even the founding fathers would think that people in prison (other than the guards) should be allowed to have guns.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:35:00 am  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Incidentally, I forgot to mention this in my original response, IN THIS CASE the point is moot.

That sawed off shotgun would be illegal in Pa. most certainly in D.C. and just about everywhere else. Barrel has to be 18 inches long.

So either Brunn bought a gun and modified or bought an already modified one on the black market in which case no background check law would have made any difference at all.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:43:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

You said: "A murderer, rapist, wife batterer, no, of course not, they should not be allowed to have a gun. BUT NEITHER SHOULD THEY BE OUT ON THE STREET IN THE FIRST PLACE. And with the limited info I have, neither should Brunn have been."

I say: Sounds reasonable to me.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:43:00 am  
Anonymous andre79 said...

He only fought the Nazis by accident, the guy would fit in the SS quite nicely. TBH, I think/hope this case is unique in the US.

Another thing is his age: 89 and dementia are not incompatible. Also it is very sad that a 89y.o. kills a 39y.o.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:04:00 am  

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