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Wednesday, June 17, 2009

A new low... Obama now wants 'dialog' with Muslim Brotherhood ..next up, Bakri, Nasrallah, and the reborn Muhajiroun

From Gertz, (link behind paid subscription wall) quietly buried in a story about Obama avoiding all first person contact with Mubarak's son...Gamal (which can be understood, frankly)... HOWEVER...

Unlike Bush, Obama has signaled that he would seek a dialogue with Egypt's opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama also suggested that his administration would recognize any MB victory, including in parliamentary elections scheduled for 2010 in Egypt.

"There are some who advocate for democracy only when they are out of power; once in power, they are ruthless in suppressing the rights of others," Obama said. "No matter where it takes hold, government of the people and by the people sets a single standard for all who hold power: you must maintain your power through consent, not coercion."

It might be a good idea to convince, via your genius conversational and rhetorical skills the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine of this, you know - HAMAS?

So sorry but:
U.S. White House counterterrorism chief Juan Zarate, says "The Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians.

Columnist and former Kuwaiti official Dr. Ahmad Al-Rabi, who has written that the "beginnings of all of the religious terrorism that we are witnessing today were in the Muslim Brotherhood's ideology."

Former U.S. Middle East peace envoy Dennis Ross (WHO WAS JUST FIRED BY OBAMA AS AMBASSADOR TO IRANIAN ISSUES AND 'DIALOGGING'), told Asharq Alawsat newspaper that the Muslim Brotherhood is a global, not a local organization, governed by a Shura (Consultative) Council, which rejects cessation of violence in Israel, and supports violence to achieve its political objectives elsewhere too

Magdy Khalil, executive editor of Egypt's Watani International, reports consistent MB deceit concerning Egypt's 12.5% Coptic Christian population, so as to oppress and dhimmify them

The Brotherhood is widely believed to have had a `secret apparatus` responsible for terrorist attacks in Egypt including the assassination of Egypt's prime minister in 1948.

Newsweek journalists Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff report connections between al-Qaeda and Brotherhood figures Mamoun Darkazanli and Youssef Nada.

MB Member Mohammed Qutb, brother of Sayd, ran to KSA to teach after the arrest and execution of Sayd, and did at Abdul Aziz U, School of Islamic studies teaching both Abdullah Azzam, and OBL.

A similar article in the Financial Times reported financial links between 74-year-old Swiss Muslim convert, businessman and neo-Nazi Ahmed Huber, and MB members, notably Youssef Nada, Ali Ghaleb Himmat and who founded the Al Taqwa Bank. According to the U.S. government, Al Taqwa "has long acted as financial advisers to al-Qaeda." Huber himself is noted in Europe for his links with alleged neo-Nazi and other far right elements. He is reported to have "confirmed" having "had contact with associates of Osama bin Laden at an Islamic conference in Beirut," whom he called `very discreet, well-educated, very intelligent people.`

Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi, an "expert in the art of deception" was an influential lobbyist and founder and head of the Brotherhood-linked American Muslim Council before being convicted and sentenced to 23 years in prison for conspiracy to murder Saudi Prince Abdullah at the behest of Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi.

In 1997 Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Mustafa Mashhur told journalist Khalid Daoud that he thought Egypt's Coptic Christians should pay the long-abandoned jizya poll tax, levied on non-Muslims (In exchange for protection from the state, due to the fact that non-Muslims are exempt from military service, while it is compulsory for Muslims.). He went on to say that while `we do not mind having Christians members in the People's Assembly... the top officials, especially in the army, should be Muslims since we are a Muslim country... This is necessary, Mashhur explained because `when a Christian country attacks the Muslim country and the army has Christian elements, they can facilitate our defeat by the enemy.`"

Barack Obama and his ideas of how to live in this world, and protect the lives, security, and way of life of everyday american people, are totally disconnected from objective reality, and will lead DIRECTLY to a lot of american people getting killed for absolutely NO OTHER REASON than his determination to cling to delusional ideas


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Blogger Always On Watch said...

NO OTHER REASON than his determination to cling to delusional ideas

And just why can't BHO see that his ideas are delusional?

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:18:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

The Progressive dialectic COMPELS the belief that all humans wish for the same thing in the end, a social justice of equal outcome in a total equally contributive system of consensus democracy and good for all.

UTOPIA of western origin.

It is an arrogance of unbelievable dimension and ultimately catastrophic consequence.

ADD TO THIS .. Obama is Richard Daley with Jimmy Carter beliefs.

The Chicago Way to compel cooperation in this vain endeavor for the 'good' from those who will not harm you, with obsequious reference to those who can and will.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:35:00 pm  
Anonymous revereridesagain said...

It might be time to question the term "delusional" as applied to his motives. Assuming that he is "deluded" that his measures will bring peace and security to this country means we think his goals are the same as ours. They are not. But if what he wants to do is create a socialist America, destroy Israel, promote the worldwide rise of Islam, weaken our defenses, advance his racist agenda, and put us in danger of nuclear blackmail by Iran and NorK, I'd say he's right on schedule.

It's usually a wise course to assume stupidity before malice, but nobody can be this stupid.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:42:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

The worst part is that in his connections with people like Ayers and Wright and his ABSURD explanations for these ENEMIES of the American way of life, such ideas have some traction among too many whereas one would hope, they would be dismissed as ridiculous.

As for me, I believe he IS a believer in social justice (equal outcome for all) as a good, AND as achievable.

THAT IS WORSE. If you were right rra, people in congress would stop him, ultimately. But if his agenda is framed as a social good, and those against it as evil....who will side will evil?

Your Pal, Epa - the ever perverse.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:05:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Connecting more dots . . .

Obama willing to 'dialog' with Muslim Brotherhood

Obama insists White House visitor logs protected by the presidential communication privilege in the law
via Michelle Malkin

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:08:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

Anon.. I believe both Bush and Clinton followed the same policy w rgd to WH visitors

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:11:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they did epa . . .and the courts ruled White House visitor logs are public documents

FOIA's already filed to access logs during O's tenure

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:21:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

Then he cannot LEGALLY resist.


Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:08:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Uh huh huh huh huh,
He said Hosenball.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:00:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

But seriously, Barack Obama is not just disconnected from reality, he is disconnected from the American Tradition of a

Democratic Republic protected by a Constitution which enumerates a belief in absolute Human Rights.

Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hizbollah, and the like, all friends of Barack, do not show any predisposition to being respectful of Human Rights.

Oh sure, they'll use pure Democracy, which is mob rule through the vote, to gain power, but they will not govern according to Human Rights.

I believe Barack Obama knows this, and doesn't care.

That's why he needs to be removed from office.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:03:00 pm  

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