Sunday, September 20, 2009

President :"We must demand that the individual shall be willing to lose the sense of personal achievement"

"and be content to realize his activity only in connection to the activity of the many"

Yes thats' right. More

"I have long enjoyed the friendship and companionship of Republicans because I am by instinct a teacher, and I would like to teach them something. "

And his team? "New forms of association must be created. Our disorganized competitive life must pass into an organic cooperative life"

HUH?

This is Woodrow Wilson. The progressive's first academic officeholder, a Princeton graduate, whose cabinet and staff meetings looked like an academic faculty and staff discussion, a man engaged on a bold fundamental reshaping of an America which wouldn't even go to war for a single selfish purpose (as he later bragged about WW1)

He ALSO spoke disparagingly of the constitution. A flawed beginning (whereas so long as he and others like him made the changes required by the living thing government and society is, these flaws, would be repaired by flawless fixes) he said as well. The social gospel then was that the state would be the right arm of god (JAMES DOBSON, can you hear me?)

What happens when we get these self righteous goons in there for fundamental change ...?

FROM THE WILSON CENTRE, and "Perilous Times" (a book I have often pushed here):

Wilson sought aggressive censorship legislation. He asked Congress to draft what became the Espionage Act of 1917, making it a crime for anyone to interfere with the war effort through acts such as denouncing the draft. Even this was not enough for Wilson, who pushed passage of the Sedition Act of 1918, which imposed heavy penalties on anyone convicted of criticizing the Constitution, the government, the military, or the flag. The approximately 2,000 people who were convicted under the Sedition Act included, for example, citizens such as Rose Pastor Stokes and Eugene Debs, each of whom was sentenced to10 years in prison for speeches criticizing the government's motives for going to war. "Woodrow Wilson set the tone," Prof. Stone declared, "of an utter intolerance for dissent and disagreement." The courts did no better, as the Supreme Court upheld the convictions of those convicted under the two laws.

Following the war, support for the First Amendment, which had been buried in the fervor of the war effort, began to reemerge. Although the Espionage Act remains on the books today, Congress repealed the 1917 Sedition Act in early 1920. In 1921, Woodrow Wilson offered clemency to most of those convicted under the Sedition and Espionage Acts. The Supreme Court eventually overturned all of its Sedition and Espionage Acts decisions.

Can't happen here?

Eternal VIGILANCE, the man said. It's no hyperbole

7 comments:

Always On Watch said...

Gah!

Some of us tried to warn BHO supporters as to exactly WHAT they were supporting. Do they "get it" now?

Pastorius said...

the state would be the right arm of god (JAMES DOBSON, can you hear me?



I say: My Pastor completely buys into Barack Obama's bullshit. to the point where he was actually censured by our Board of Elders for allowing a woman to speak in church on behalf of Obamacare.

It might come down to a real battle in our Church, and I suspect, in Churches across the nation.

Opus #6 said...

Funny, they didn't teach anything like this about Woodrow Wilson in school. Just like my kids emerged not knowing anything about Reagan/Carter.

We need education reform, but not the type Obama wants.

christian soldier said...

Eugene Debs - head of The Eugene Debs School of Labor?
I read about him years ago ---seems the EDSL was an openly Communist operation -were my books incorrect?
Did he not promote Ayer's type activity?

Do I agree with Wilson's MO-no...
C-CS

Pastorius said...

I did not know the history of Wilson either.

Thanks for giving me a bit of education here.

Epaminondas said...

Here is the interesting part of this .. some of this is out of "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg (National Review) and Stone who wrote the book is ACLU all the way.

IOW, Wilson who should have been a darling to today's left, became armed by self righteous mission guidance .. a freak.

So are all who are on that side of the movement, there are a lot of names trailing Wilson in this endeavor, from the originator of the New Republic, to economic philosophers, and the originator of the word 'Sociology'

Academicians of all dimensions and political ideas MIGHT BE ill equipped to be political leaders. The skills needed to forge compromise may be those that do not inform properly those who are seeing right or wrong answers as professors who long before reaching power formed their opinions and itch to try them out on the less informed to fix everything

Pastorius said...

Epa,
You asked: So are all who are on that side of the movement


I say: I think the paradigm is about to shift, as is noted in the Belmont Club piece above (on which you have already commented).