Tuesday, December 08, 2009

Obama's "Non-Religious" White House Christmas and No Christmas Gifts for his Kids

Pamela has a very good point here.

From Atlas Shrugs:

He is off the wall. Mad with power. Even if you think this, if you are President of the United States, you don't say it. Read this story and then consider the gala event he held at the White House for Ramadan; I covered it here. And remember Obama's cancellation of the national day of prayer.

Obama Plan 'Non-Religious Christmas' at WH FOX

President Obama and the First Family were planning a “non-religious Obama_muslim_garb
Christmas,”
according to Social Secretary Desiree Rogers. Ms. Rogers reportedly told a gathering of former social secretaries that the Obamas did not intend on putting the Nativity scene on display – a longtime East Room tradition.

The account was reported in the Fashion and Style section of The New York Times. The White House confirmed to the Times that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive – but in the end – tradition won out – and the Nativity scene is once again in its traditional East Room spot.

Did you know that Obama does not celebrate Christmas? Obama Leaves the Gifting to Santa

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) tells People magazine in the issue out Friday that he and his wife, Michelle, do not give Christmas or birthday presents to their two young daughters.

Obama tells the magazine’s Sandra Sobieraj Westfall in a seven-page cover story that he and his wife follow the unusual practice because they “want to teach some limits.”

In the interview earlier this summer, Obama noted that they do spend “hundreds” of dollars on birthday slumber parties.

Michelle Obama told People: “Malia says, ‘I know there is a Santa because there’s no way you’d buy me all that stuff.’ ”

UPDATE: Jesus nearly banned at the White House Inn

7 comments:

revereridesagain said...

At the very least this is not normal behavior even for a "nominal" Christian. Now, were Obama a-religious (say, in keeping with his Marxist leanings), why would he go out of his way to attend a rabidly racist, antisemitic, America-hating church for 20 years? Could it be that was the only kind of "Christian" church he could stomach and/or get away with around some of those who know his real leanings, including people who have fostered his career? The Ramadan gala eliminates the possibility that he is just trying to be "inclusive". Either celebrate 'em all or ignore 'em all, Hussein, but don't pull out all the stops for Ramadan then try to tell us you're "inclusive".

It will be interesting to see whether he observes Kwanza and if he ignores Hanukkah, which starts this coming weekend.

midnight rider said...

The non-religious part is troublesome (what the fuck is "all-inclusive"?) especially not initially putting up the creche and in light of the Ramadan nonsense.

But the non-gift giving? Not so much. I've known a number of people who do not give gifts as part of the Christmas celebration (c'mon, for how many eyars have we all said it's become too commercial, the true meaning is being lost?). Besides, it sounds like Santa is taking care of them anyway :)

And the same with the birthdays. Maybe they don't get gifts but they're getting more on the parties than my kids do in gifts and parties.

Of course, he's a paygrade or two above me. . .

And don't start me on Kwanza. Grrrr

Damien said...

Pastorius,

I'm a supporter of separation of church and state, but even if you ignore what the white house did for Ramadan, this is ridiculous.

Always On Watch said...

President Obama and the First Family were planning a “non-religious
Christmas,”...


Huh?

Christmas = Christ Mass.

The White House confirmed to the Times that there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive – but in the end – tradition won out – and the Nativity scene is once again in its traditional East Room spot.

Fear of public backlash, probably.

mah29001 said...

I guess the President and First Lady want to call the Christmas tree, a "Holiday" tree. What does a tree in your living room around December and opening up presents have to do with promoting religion or Christianity to be specific?

midnight rider said...

Not a thing, actually. The practice is an old pagan tradition that was adapted by Christians in Germany on the 16th Century.

The date for Christmas itself is either taken to correspond with the winter solstice or possibly with the Roman Festival of Sol Invictus (unconquered sun) although Ratzinger/Benedict claims it is simply 9 months after the date of the Feast of the Annunciation (March 25). None of the claims or theories are by any means certain.

Santa Claus himself was probably originally modeled after Saint Nicholas of Myra who was a 4 th century Greek Bishop known for his generous gifts to the poor. But again, we also have other figures like Odin muddying the waters.

But 2 things solidified our current conception of St. Nick. Clement Moore's A Visit from St Nicholas and Thomas Nast's drawing in Harper's Weekly in 1863.

As for the gift giving, this mania we have now is a fairly recent phenomenon. A few things here and there but nothing like our Walmart Super Madness. My grandmother (94 yrs young do NOT mess with her) tells how growing up in the 20's Christmas to them meant going to Mass (she is still hardcore Catholic) and their gift was usually an orange and some nuts in a stocking. that was it.

At our house, though the girls do get other things, in their stockings they still get just an orange, an apple, some bits of candy and nuts.

And another Festival we celebrate at home is the Feast of St Nicholas Dec. 6. Where the gift giving legend (likely) started. The girls leave a boot or shoe at the door at night and in the morning St Nick has left them something like pens or pencils or notebooks for school, some candy and nuts, hair ties, small tube of hand cream etc.

I wish he'd stop leaving me crazy Christmas socks. . .

midnight rider said...

And while we're at it Easter (at least Roman Catholic and most other religions) is always the First Sunday after the First full moon after the Spring Equinox.