Tuesday, June 07, 2011

Bioengineered E Coli?

(With a hat tip to 12iggymom)

Please tell me that THIS isn't possible. Excerpt:
Forensic evidence emerges that European e.coli superbug was bioengineered to produce human fatalities

...There's really only one way this happens (and only one way) -- you have to expose this strain of e.coli to all eight classes of antibiotics drugs....

...[C]reating a strain of e.coli that's resistant to eight classes of antibiotics requires repeated, sustained expose to those antibiotics. It is virtually impossible to imagine how this could happen all by itself in the natural world. For example, if this bacteria originated in the food (as we've been told), then where did it acquire all this antibiotic resistance given the fact that antibiotics are not used in vegetables?...
Watch the video below:

25 comments:

Epaminondas said...

This kind of assertion needs to be taken to the next step, a reputable reporter asking a reasonable question to the CDC.

"Is this explanation possible, likely, and if possible, who would have the where withal to do it?"

Any tertiary care medial center?
Research lab?
Govt's only?

The writer, Adams, slides from what sounds like a reasonable explanation to a self serving blast at the banning of herbs and supplement from the EU armamentarium, while he himself is the editor of Natural News.

It SOUNDS reasonable, BUT... so are a lot of explanations

Always On Watch said...

Read The Demon in My Freezer. Guaranteed to make your hair stand up.

Unknown said...

Hi AOW.
Given the extensive use of antibiotics in cattle, could it be the exposure to antibiotics happened this way?

Always On Watch said...

Will,
Maybe.

I'm no chemist, that's for sure.

Unknown said...

Just following the advice given to people to use less frequently anti biotics because in the end bacteria become resistant , why wouldn't be the same with cattle , they're the same human anti biotics only used in different doses , my guess the same rule applies.The Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli behind this outbreak are known to lurk in cattle guts.

Reaganite Independent said...

The Hand of Al Qaeda?


Linked at RR:


E-Coli Breakout in Germany Appears "Bio-Engineered" to Produce Maximum Human Fatalities

Epaminondas said...

I don't think a cow eating foods with antibiotics gives exposure to that anitbiotics to e coli

Unknown said...

Epa.
I'm talking cows being injected with antibiotics ,in Europe hormones and anti biotics are widely used on cattle.

Unknown said...

However, as the Ecologist reported last month as part of a special report into antibiotics, there are increasing concerns about the spread of deadly antibiotic-resistant infections from animals to humans. In particular, medical experts and campaigners say the overuse of antibiotics in farming is contributing to the ever-increasing amount of antimicrobrial-resistance as bacteria evolve to withstand existing drugs.

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/926083/routine_antibiotic_use_linked_to_new_mrsa_strain_found_in_uk_dairy_cows.html

Overuse of drugs in animal farming linked to growing antibiotic-resistance in humans

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/897405/overuse_of_drugs_in_animal_farming_linked_to_growing_antibioticresistance_in_humans.html

Pastorius said...

Editor of Natural News, huh?

I suppose he also thinks returning to a Hemp-based economy would be good for the world. And, he probably has those little wooden boxes all over his house.

"Wow, that's really cool. What is it?"

"You put your weed in it."

I'm with Epa. I don't buy it.

Natural News is the equivalent of the AGW/environmentalist crowd, absolutely without credibility.

Epaminondas said...

E coli reside io the intesteinal tract, again, I am not sure that equals exposing bacteria IN THE INTESTINE to the antibiotic.

Injections would mean bloodstream, and muscle, and the BODY of the intestine, but not the inside of the tract.

The e coli becomes dangerous when those in the tract of the animal are ingested by people.

Maybe I am missing something

Pastorius said...

Maybe you'll get it if you get high, epa.

Unknown said...

Hmmm....Should i try a career in fortune telling?

Superbug timebomb: Scientists fear the over-use of antibiotics in medicine and farming may have led to the deadly E.coli outbreak

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1395078/E-coli-outbreak-Over-use-antibiotics-led-deadly-strain.html#ixzz1ObPJo3jL

Epaminondas said...

"And you know, when your mouth a gettin' dry, you're really high"

Author please?

Epaminondas said...

I have been accused of ruining threads in many other palaces

But he ain't no author

Pastorius said...

Anyway, thanks to AOW for posting this.

Even though I doubt the information, I am really glad it's posted here.

We need to be on the lookout for this kind of stuff.

It could turn out to be true.

Certainly, it is more sincere than the MSM.

Always On Watch said...

Please note that I did use a question mark in the title of this post. That question mark is not a typo.

I wish that I could remember where I read about Saddam Hussein's apparent attempts to create superbugs. I saw the info in a library book dated years before 9/11.

As one who lived through all the furor of the anthrax attacks back in 2001, I admit that I'm a bit vigilant about biowarfare. And besides those anthrax attacks, a friend of mine in national security informed me a few years back that biowarfare was coming -- and relatively soon. **sigh**

Always On Watch said...

Epa,
The e coli becomes dangerous when those in the tract of the animal are ingested by people.

Maybe I am missing something


The slaughtering process can be very sloppy. Sometimes fecal material gets on the tissue being prepared for sale for food.

Always On Watch said...

Pastorius,


I'm not disagreeing.

But I will point out that even the National Enquirer occasionally gets a story right. Remember the rag's stories about John Edwards and his love child?

Just sayin'.

Always On Watch said...

Pastorius,
Blogger burped and omitted this portion of my last comment:

Natural News is the equivalent of the AGW/environmentalist crowd, absolutely without credibility.

Um, is Blogger getting ready to dive into the dumper again? Sheesh.

Pastorius said...

sometimes they get the story right ....

Yes, exactly, and that's why I'm glad you posted this here.

thanks.

Unknown said...

Hi AOW,Pato. Indeed good post and Yes indeed Blogger seems to have hickups today on Ibloga.

Always On Watch said...

BTW, antibiotics do go through the intestines.

I have a cat who came down with e coli, and she took oral antibiotics, which obviously tended to both her bladder and her intestines.

Epaminondas said...

"The slaughtering process can be very sloppy. Sometimes fecal material gets on the tissue being prepared for sale for food."

Buy kosher ;)

Actually THAT IS EXACTLY the reason the FDA is supposed to have inspectors.

If you cut the gut of the animal you are slaughtering for meat, thus allowing the e coli 'freedom', the animal is instantly GARBAGE

Aunty Belle said...

Important thread--

Here is a report that said the first recognition of this particular strain was in the Republic of Georgia:

"The specific type involved in the European outbreak is O104:H4. Braden says CDC investigators first saw it two years ago in the Republic of Georgia in eastern Europe. At that point it hadn't acquired all the antibiotic resistance genes that the current strain has, Braden says, "but close enough that we would say they're very similar."

From:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/06/07/137027459/u-s-vulnerable-to-e-coli-outbreak-like-the-one-in-europe?ps=sh_sthdl

One other case of the O014:H4 reported was In South Korea http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16807997

One other point is that E. coli is the most studied bacteria globally. The experts are claiming that this strain--the O104:H4--is not properly a "mutant" but a serotype that has picked up an extra gene.

No one ventures a suggestion as to where and how it picked up the extra gene.