Tuesday, April 08, 2014

The Cold Civil War Has Begun


From Richard Fernandez:


Much of the shock following the removal of Brendan Eich from the position of Mozilla CEO came from the realization that, in a manner of speaking, America was now at war. True it’s a culture war, not a physical conflict. But if you were waiting for the moment when the Cold Civil War actually begins, this might be it.
Not that anyone should have been taken aback. After all, Larry Summers was sacked as president of Harvard following his criticism of Cornell West’s rap album and as a result of a 2005 speech in which he suggested that the under-representation of women in science and engineering could be due to a “different availability of aptitude at the high end”.

Mark Steyn, National Review and the Competitive Enterprise Institute are being sued for defamation by Michael “Hockey Stick” Mann for criticizing the theory of Global Warming.  The Gannet newspapers declared open season on gun-owners by publishing a map showing the names and addresses of registered New York gun owners, as a kind of dinner bell for burglars. “Come and rob … me”.
In fact, the Wall Street Journal points out that a similar database was used to ferret out Eich. “Eich’s support for Proposition 8 became public knowledge because of a California law requiring disclosure of personal information–name, address, occupation and employer’s name — of anybody who gives $100 or more to a campaign for or against a ballot initiative. The secretary of state’s office is required to post this information online, and, as HotAir.com’s “AllahPundit” notes, the Los Angeles Times made it available on its site as an easily searchable database.”
To continue: in 2012, “American fast-food chain Chick-fil-A was the focus of controversy following a series of public comments made in June 2012 by chief operating officer Dan Cathy opposing same-sex marriage”. For those who still remember it (along with the forgotten episode of the Benghazi consulate), the 2013 IRS scandal was all about investigating people who held the wrong political views.
It might be mentioned, though it hardly seems relevant, that Proposition 8 actually won by 52.24% to 47.76. Irrelevant because unacceptable, as James Surowiecki of the New Yorker explains:
The obvious point to make about Eich’s resignation is that it shows how much a part of the mainstream that support for gay rights has become, particularly in the technology world. Eich’s problem wasn’t that he took a political stance: Amazon.com’s C.E.O., Jeff Bezos, has weighed in on gay marriage, too, by donating more than $2.5 million in support of it. The problem was that Eich’s stance was unacceptable in Silicon Valley, a region of the business world where social liberalism is close to a universal ideology. At this point, a tech company having a C.E.O. who opposes gay marriage is not all that different from a company in 1973 having a C.E.O. who donated money to fight interracial marriage: even if there were plenty of Americans who felt the same way at the time, the C.E.O. would still have been on the wrong side of history. And since the role of a C.E.O. as a public face of an organization is more important than ever these days, Eich’s personal views were inevitably going to shape his ability to run the company.
Yes, the culture war has been raging for a long time, except people didn’t notice it because it seemed to take place on the edges or in fringe settings. All the Eich affair did was make it obvious.
Ironically many people, even in the homosexual community, don’t want this culture war and are dismayed by the Eich witchunt. They don’t want it not only because … but I’ll get to that in a moment … especially since the Eich affair is not about gay marriage, except incidentally, any more than the Summers affair was about racism or feminism; or that Steyn’s suit has anything to do with warmism or denialism or the gunowners map was about school safety; or still less that the 2013 IRS persecution of Tea Party groups was to do with Citizen’s United.
The removal of Eich is about fascism.  It’s about one group of people forcing everyone else to bow to their hat on a pole; it s about book burning, compelling obeisance to, as Jame Surowiecki put it, “a universal ideology” in a manner so bald that even those who might gain politically in the short term from it are horrified by its crudity.
Perceptive gays understand now, if they hadn’t noticed before, that a whole mechanism now exists for persecuting people whose views are deemed unacceptable. Today it is directed against Eich; once it was directed against Summers; on other occasions it was employed against Clarence Thomas. But sooner or later, probably sooner, they understand it will be directed against them — or us — or someone.  And if it can get a corporate CEO who is widely regarded as the father of Javascript it can get pretty darned anyone.
Peter Burrows at Business Week quotes Joseph Grundfest, a law professor at Stanford University who says “this is a particularly fascinating situation, because it involves an illiberal reaction from a very liberal community.   It’s fair to say that this could have been handled differently and better.”  But Grundfest misses the point. It was the late Gerald Ford who really put his finger on the problem, which to paraphrase Ford, is that ‘any instrument of social coercion big enough to give you everything you want is an instrument big enough to take away everything that you have.’  Build the bonfire and you too can be torched at the stake. Or as Brian equivalently put it to Max in Cabaret: “do you think you can still control them?”
One person who doubts the fire is under control is Senator Rand Paul. He along with Eich, recently made a stir in the Bay Area in a speech at Berkeley arguing that all this time we’ve been building the apparatus that will soon be turned against us.  And by us, he means everyone, including gays.

13 comments:

Always On Watch said...

Note this comment to the essay at Belmont Club:

In 1990, here, the Gay Movement claimed they just wanted acceptance, tolerance, and respect.

They also vowed not to proselytize to the young and innocent.

Now the Gay Agenda is mandatory in our schools.


Yep. To this we have come.

Nicoenarg said...

Much of the shock following the removal of Brendan Eich from the position of Mozilla CEO came from the realization that, in a manner of speaking, America was now at war.

This would all make sense if the above sentence was not so utterly wrong.

Eich wasn't removed. He wasn't fired. He wasn't forced to resign by the company.

If anything, he was forced to resign by the media. The media is the culprit.

Pastorius said...

The media is a weapon of the left in the cultural war.

I don't think the statement is wrong at all. There are huge numbers of Americans who believe in what the media is doing. They are one side, we are the other.

So, what is wrong about the statement?

Nicoenarg said...

So, what is wrong about the statement?

This:

Much of the shock following the removal of Brendan Eich from the position of Mozilla CEO

Like I said, he wasn't removed. He wasn't fired. He wasn't forced to resign by the board...the media is spinning this on one side and the conservatives are also spinning this, on the other, based on false information that the media fed them.

This is not even a story. Shouldn't have been in the first place. Eich became CEO. 5 or so employees (out of thousands) of Mozilla tweeted against that. That made the news playing it as if it was "all employees at Mozilla".

Three board members resigned. Their resignation had nothing to do with Eich or gays or anything, they were already planning on leaving. They'd just been waiting until a new CEO was chosen so they wouldn't leave the company without a leader. The media spun it saying "three board members at Mozilla resigned in protest".

Eich decided to resign because of some websites deciding to block access to users of Firefox based on these lies. He left the company so this craziness wouldn't damage the reputation of Mozilla even further. It was his decision. He was asked by board members and employees to stay. He still left. But his decision to leave was his own. Now the conservatives are playing it as "he was forced to resign" or "they fired him". Again not true.

Media started this thing because "gays". Conservatives are just running with it.

So a statement that says "removal of Eich from the position of CEO" is a lie. Nothing else. A blatant one at that, which in my eyes is no different than the lies of the media. Mozilla and Eich were both victims here of this childish game that seems to be going on.

The reaction to this on both sides sounds like the reaction of Muslims when they hear about "someone insulting the ball gargling Mohammed".

There are people who should be blamed for this. The media and those who support the narrative of the media. And I blame the "militant" gay folks who keep demanding more and more and more. I personally don't care if gay people wanna marry or divorce. Governments should see all citizens as equal. However, I am not going to compromise my beliefs because they are too pussy to handle a difference in opinion or thought. Freakin idiots!

Pastorius said...

Nico,
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Pastorius said...

The problem with your narrative is, while it may be factually precise, you are acknowledging, yet disregarding, the precise amount of influence the gay rights lobby had behind Eich's exit.

The problem is, they did have influence. What you are saying is, at most, he left early. Earlier than he would have. That he would not have left so early except that, well, he was leaving anyway, so he might as well flee in the face of fags.

Do you see the problem with your precision?

Pastorius said...

By the way, I appreciate that you are trying to bring reason to the debate. But I don't think it is as simple as you're making it out to be.

I have to wonder if you have to be here to understand.

Nicoenarg said...

BTW I am not even criticizing the whole article. I have a huge problem with the starting line of this article. The rest is accurate from what I can see.

There's enough facts out there without embellishing this shit with "he was removed". There's no need for that. Cheap shots will always be just that...cheap.

Pastorius said...

I'm not understanding you then.

You're agreeing that he decided to leave because of the uproar around the supposed gay rights issue.

So, your frustration is that it should have said, "decided to resign" rather than "removal"?

I don't understand.

The pressure of the supposed gay rights movement (people supposedly standing for gay rights when they are really standing for fascism) is what caused the man to decide to resign.

How is that not removal?

This is why I'm wondering if you have to be here to get it.

You live in Argentina. Maybe you're not getting the zeitgeist.

He left because of pressure. To try to draw a distinction between pressure and removal seems useless to me.

Perhaps I am still not understanding you.

Nicoenarg said...

Yes Pasto. That is the problem.

"Removal from the position of CEO" or "fired" has a specific meaning, aka, Mozilla board let him go. No Mozilla board did not force him to resign nor fired him.

I have worked at a couple of places. Resignation and getting fired are two different things...

And yes, unless the writer's fingers were hurting, writing "he decided to resign because of the gay lobby and the media..." would have been just fine. He was "removed" from the position puts a whole another spin on it.

He left because of pressure. To try to draw a distinction between pressure and removal seems useless to me.

We can agree to disagree because it isn't useless to me.

As for living in Argentina...the whole gay issue is not unique to the US. Argentina "prides" itself on being the first country in Latin America to legalize gay marriage. We're still in the thick of this shit. In the US you get pressured to resign by the media, here you get taken to court and thrown in jail if you go against the narrative and "offend" people...so no, this isn't about understanding the situation or not...this is about factual statements.

Pastorius said...

I could be wrong, because I don't pay too much attention to these things, but I don't think many CEO's get outright fired. I think most of them are allowed to resign. This is common with people in top Executive positions. They are allowed to tender their resignation. Or that is what I notice.

Pastorius said...

From Mozilla:

Q: Was Brendan Eich fired?

A: No, Brendan Eich resigned. Brendan himself said:

“I have decided to resign as CEO effective April 3rd, and leave Mozilla. Our mission is bigger than any one of us, and under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader. I will be taking time before I decide what to do next.”

Brendan Eich also posted a blog on this topic.

Q: Was Brendan asked to resign by the Board?

A: No. In fact, Board members tried to get Brendan to stay at Mozilla in another role.

Pastorius said...

From an article by the Washington Post on the firing of Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz:

You’ve got to hand it to Carol Bartz. The CEO of Yahoo got fired by the board on Tuesday, and didn’t mince words when telling the company—the entire company—exactly what happened. As Kara Swisher reported Tuesday, Bartz sent out this two-sentence zinger of an email to Yahoo’s more than 13,000-person staff after she was canned. “To all,” Bartz addressed her email, “I am very sad to tell you that I’ve just been fired over the phone by Yahoo’s Chairman of the Board. It has been my pleasure to work with all of you and I wish you only the best going forward.”

That’s not something you ever hear from the CEO of a major corporation. CEOs don’t get fired. And they certainly don’t send out emails to everyone to let them know the board didn’t do the work face to face. They resign—preemptively, or with the board’s blessing. They retire. They leave to spend time with their families. Of the 43 companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index that changed CEOs in 2010, according to executive search firm Spencer Stuart, just 5 percent (that’s two people) were explicitly ousted from their jobs by the board.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/yahoo-ceo-carol-bartz-gets-fired-by-phone-gets-real-by-email/2011/04/01/gIQA0WSN9J_blog.html