Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Former Archbishop of Canterbury Says ‘British and Islamic values can go hand in hand’


Couldn't someone shut this guy up for good and put him out of our misery?


Some choice quotes from the article linked above:
Dr Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, was a special guest at an event at the Lincolnshire Showground that saw thousands gather for four days of debate about Islam. He told the crowds at Living Islam that Muslims have brought back “open, honest and difficult public discussion” as one of their “greatest gifts” to the UK.
At the Lincolnshire Showground, Lord Williams talked about British values and Islamic values and how the two are often reported as being at odds with each other.
Yet he blamed the media for much of this. “In Birmingham, we have seen a local parish and a mosque combining together to provide family services and youth activities,” Lord Williams said.
“It’s really important that we respect and try to understand diversity of conscience and belief and conviction.
“These are not just about what makes us British – they’re about what makes us human.”
He also criticised some sections of the media for portraying Muslims as “un-British”, and slammed the “illiteracy” about religion among Government figures.
Lord Williams said that he believed the most difficult thing facing British Muslims was the media’s emphasis on what made Muslims different.
“I think that Lincoln Cathedral is one of the greatest treasures of Western Europe.
“I have seen that there’s an academy in Scunthorpe that Muslims and Christians study at, St Lawrence Academy, and it’s a brilliant example of integration between different religions in Lincolnshire.”
The event, which was organised by the Islamic Society of Britain, attracted between 4,500 to 5,000 visitors throughout the four days.
Shamima Hossain, 44, who had travelled to the event with family from Norwich, said she had enjoyed Lord Williams’ speech.
“I think he’s amazing,” she said. “As a Muslim, it’s really pleasing to hear a Christian be so encompassing of all faiths.”

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Related: Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East” , by Barry Rubin

One of the reviews of Rubin’s book reveals:

“…look at the career of Hajj Amin al-Husaini who came to prominence in the 1920s and 30s. Most of this has been covered in better detail elsewhere but what is new here is evidence that at the end of WW I in 1917 operating out of Damascus he had acted as a double agent for the English and later for the French. Nor were his ambitions limited to Palestine – between 1918 and 1920 he worked for the General Syrian Congress as a lobbyist for an enlarged Syrian state including today’s Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories with the Faisal as King. Beyond his connections as a member of one of Jerusalem’s leading Arab families and in spite of his conviction the previous year for instigating the Nabi Musa riots and lack of religious qualifications, his family was able to convince the British to name him “Grand Mufti” of Jerusalem (which he later changed to “Palestine”) and place him as head of the newly created Supreme Muslim Council who’s sinecures provided him with both income and power base for years to come.”

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Germany's grand First World War jihad experiment, via UK Telegraph
Introduces the unlikely prophet of modern day jihad as 54 year old German aristocrat, adventurer and diplomat Max von Oppenheim (suggested reading by Hugh Fitzgerald in 2006 Quote pasted below in next comment...

Noting the Telegraph article suggests Muhammedans could never be whipped up into a cohesive force to reckon with..not by infidel propaganda.





Anonymous said...

"comment on Oppenheim actually motivating the Turks to call a jihad in order to destabilise the British Empire."-- from a reader

See scholarly works, such as Vahakn Dadrian's works on the massacres of Armenians in Turkey (those that began in 1915), and works intended for a larger audience, such as Peter Hopkirk's "Setting the World Aflame." If you google "Max von Oppenheim" and "jihad" plenty should come up; look especially for an article by Wolfgang Schwanitz, but there's all sorts of stuff. The idea was simple: have the Ottoman government issue a fatwa against the Allies (England, France, and Russia) as oppressors of Muslims, and hope especially that it would rouse Muslims against the English in both the Middle East and, especially, in India. It wasn't very effective, but in those days the Muslims were without the OPEC trillions, without means of mass dissemination of material (no Internet or satellite television, no videocassettes or audiocassettes, no television, no radio, mass illiteracy), impoverished (no ten trillion dollars in OPEC money), as there is both the means for funding the Jihad, and the means of dissemination and whipping up Muslim masses, and groups, and individuals, all over the place.

The Jihad was declared in Constantinople in 1915; for various reasons the copy of it possessed by the American State Department was kept secret, off-limits, until the late 1950s. I don't know why. There are many such puzzlements and mysteries. Perhaps no one in the Department understood its significance, and therefore why it might matter. Jefferson and Madison and Adams and William Eaton would have understood. But those were different people, of an altogether different mental formation, than what we have today -- have, for example, as members of Baker's Iraq Study Group."

Anonymous said...

The above comments are suggesting the English/British were complicit/mischievous attempting to harness the jihad against competing political interests for far longer than this nincumpoop Archbishop. he simply brought treason to Olympic gold standard.

Charles Martel said...

Hope the old fool burns in hell.

Anonymous said...

Will no one rid me of this pestiferous priest!