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Friday, June 17, 2016

The Republicans and pundits STILL apply CW to Trump even NOW, in the sequel

This week we are being exposed to an avalanche of Republican defection, or apparent defection, or real defection, or media defection, or hoped for media publicity of defection that is or is not taking place around Trump.

Now Trump may turn out to have committed suicide on the fulcrum of the ‘mexican judge’, and to be sure when this all started I had a first choice a second choice, and he was neither, and the rest sort of blended together except for Trump comedy moments, punctuated by his 2 messages

BORDER/TERRORISM                                              ECONOMY/FREE TRADE

He had no organization on the ground of any state and relied on the motivated angry voters turning out with pitchforks in hand.

They did.

So now, with Sasse, Kirk, the Govs of Ohio, Md etc bailing, Ryan being passive aggressive in his ‘cooperation’, and McConnell becoming the invisible man Trump is threatening to go it alone, and is now being pooh poohed as stupid, venal, and ridiculous even as we learn all the kings men with warning after warning in this fish rots from the head administration, did NOTHING to stop the enemy terrorist in Orlando.

There is a unanimous huffing agreement out there Trump cannot win unless he gets the ‘republican leadership’ unified behind him.

But let’s pose this scenario. They have all been wrong. GOPe leaders who failed to succeed in anything but increasing heir numbers BUT FOR REASONS OTHER THAN THEIR LEADERSHIP were wrong about this election. Democrats who assured the world Trump could never be president were wrong about this election. Pundits who laughed, then were stridently whining about the stupid American people being too stupid to know how stupid they were (yes, Brit Hume this means you). Hayes, Goldberg, Matthews, Charlie,  Maddow, Blow, all wrong.

What is the scenario if they are all wrong again? There is an attack like Orlando in Cleveland and Philadelphia, PURPOSEFULLY executed with guns because they know it will divide us. Or not. Car bombs. Away from the conventions. Synagogue. AIDS clinic. Elementary school. A performance of Hamilton.

Or none of this happens and Trump brands Hillary for what is really and truly is objectively, and grinds his way to an unpalatable victory.

What do we have?

We have a republican party OUT OF THE POSITION of having a White House they elected. They have, FOR CERTAIN, a president who will ABSOLUTELY make the best deal with the side that will work with him, OBJECTIVELY, and they will have blown their position completely.

And a royally pissed off president who revels in the counter punch.

We already have a vision of this future and how it works this week, when Trump announced he was going to see the NRA about keeping guns from enemy terrorists via federal control of some sort, and the NRA within the day announced it was in favor of keeping guns from them as well, putting much of the GOPe TOTALLY out of position.

So Brit, here’s a question for you, suppose you people are too insulated and thus too stupid, to know how insulated and thus how stupid you are?

You may be right, but you know, when Nate Silver gets it all wrong…..
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got as far as "Now Trump may turn out to have committed suicide on the fulcrum of the ‘mexican judge’,..." and stopped reading.

Friday, June 17, 2016 12:41:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

because this proves you're pissed and erudite, and unable to process that which may conflict with your wold view?

IN that case too bad you missed who REALLY gets the shaft in that post

Friday, June 17, 2016 1:52:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

FWIF it's spelled defecation


Friday, June 17, 2016 3:16:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

This NRA/Trump agreement, or meeting of the minds, or whatever you want to call it, IS WORRISOME.

The Federal Government does not have the authority to take guns out of the hands of people on the No Fly List UNLESS they establish a court which seats a JURY OF THEIR PEERS to deal with the situation.

Simple as that.

The NRA may see the writing on the wall THAT TRUMP WILL BE PRESIDENT, but they had better make sure they do not make a deal with the devil.

Because even if Trump is a man they can work with - and I believe he is - that does not mean the next guy won't be.

Friday, June 17, 2016 4:20:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

This NRA/Trump agreement, or meeting of the minds, or whatever you want to call it, IS WORRISOME.

Yes, it is.

I think we know how Trump himself defines a threat, but I don't trust a federal bureaucracy to operate within those limits.

Friday, June 17, 2016 4:36:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

The IDEA is ok, the due process (which Joe Manchin as conservative a D as there is, is BITCHING ABOUT, he thinks there is too much) is the problem.

Your get on that list inside a star chamber.

We need 3, or 5 judges DEDICATED to this

But it's no coincidence that as the R's are acting this way including Ryan yesterday and today, that we have Trump saying and doing what he is.


Friday, June 17, 2016 8:14:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I really don't know how you could possibly say that 3 or 4 Judges could deal with this fairly. Look how politicized the Supreme Court has become.

If there were just a few judges on this panel then every few years it would swing from a CVE definition of terrorist (with right wing extremists being the pseudo-bogeyman) to a hardcore anti-Islam viewpoint that might make us here at IBA decide to become Democrats again.

Friday, June 17, 2016 9:12:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

Pasto .. I think that's the best humans can up with. It WILL swing just as the SCOTUS has over 240 years


If we are going to govern ourselves, that's how it has to be

Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:56:00 am  

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