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Sunday, August 16, 2020
The Gilded Palace of Sin
The Flying Burrito Brothers
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Gram Parsons (RIP). I understand he hung out with the Stones in south France while they were trying to make Exile album.
Supposedly both Jagger and Pallenberg asked Gram to leave because he was a bad influence on Keith. LOL.
1) Yes, assuming that we don't have a civilizational collapse. We are still listening to Bach. 2) Depends on the moral flavor of the time but both should be prominent. 3) Yes, for the same reason there is such a wide variety of composers studied at the conservatories today.
The Stones. I hope The Beatles names are stricken from every pylon, obelisk, and stone that no man speak of them or remember them any longer. So let it be written. So let it be done.
Pop music of the first half of the century has been whittled down to just a few, and that is only 70+ years ago. Centuries wipe away nuance.
I think The Beatles will be remembered more as a "Pop" phenomenon, than as a band. Some songs will be listened to more for the novelty of what they say about popular trends, than what they say about music.
I have come to believe that the Stones will last because they will be remembered as what Rock n' Roll really felt like and meant. Primarily the period 68-78 period. NOt much else. I happen to be one who thinks the Stones STILL do some great music. But I don't think much will be remembered beyond that ten year period.
I also think Led Zeppelin will be remembered, but no so much for their Stairway and after period. More for the first three albums, the reinterpretations of blues music, and the mythological element they added to it, with an almost Wagnerian bombast, laden with a precision and the nuance and beauty of English Romanticism.
After that, not much will be remembered. Not in academia anyway. There will be music nerds like me, and you, who might say, hey we really need to pay attention to the Bix Beiderbeck's and the David Bowie's of the world. And what about Gram Parons, and The Cure? What about Jeff Buckley, and Jimi Hendrix, and fucking Buddy Holly?
Listen, I hope I am wrong, but I try to project myself into the future, and that's what I see happening.
By the way, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Chuck Berry, and Elvis will also be remembered. But Elvis will only have three or four songs he is remembered by. Very little will survive.
I love Elvis, but I can't imagine Now or Never, or You Are Always On My Mind being remembered. Only Jailhouse Rock, It's Alright Mama, Hound Dog, and Mystery Train, likely. IMO
Thanks for posting that article on Keith Richards and Gram Parsons. That's awesome.
Maybe Gram will be remembered. It is true that without Gram there would be no Eagles, no CSNY, no Neil Young, no Wilco, no Ryan Adams, etc.
It wasn't until I heard Gram Parsons in the early 90's that I realized how important he had been to much of what I had heard growing up.
He made a lot of things make sense, in retrospect, when I listened to him.
Likewise, though I always loved the Stones, it wasn't until the past 15 years or so that I realized they probably are the most important of all Rock n' Roll bands.
They still aren't my favorite. But the thing is, i have to back out my own feelings and tastes, and try to listen from the perspective of history.
I imagine in 200 years they will be tearing down Statues Of The Beatles In Liverpool because they were a reminder of the displaced white european culture.
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Gram Parsons (RIP). I understand he hung out with the Stones in south France while they were trying to make Exile album.
Supposedly both Jagger and Pallenberg asked Gram to leave because he was a bad influence on Keith. LOL.
LOL
Didn't know that.
Hilarious.
Hey, since you are a fan of this era, I have some questions for you. (forgive me if I have asked you this before)
1) 100-200 years from now, do you think Rock n' Roll music will be remembered?
2) Who will be remembered more, The Beatles or the Stones?
3) Will any other bands be remembered at all?
1) Yes, assuming that we don't have a civilizational collapse. We are still listening to Bach.
2) Depends on the moral flavor of the time but both should be prominent.
3) Yes, for the same reason there is such a wide variety of composers studied at the conservatories today.
The Stones. I hope The Beatles names are stricken from every pylon, obelisk, and stone that no man speak of them or remember them any longer. So let it be written. So let it be done.
LOL
I am surprised you feel that way, Peter.
However, I am actually closer to you on this.
Pop music of the first half of the century has been whittled down to just a few, and that is only 70+ years ago. Centuries wipe away nuance.
I think The Beatles will be remembered more as a "Pop" phenomenon, than as a band. Some songs will be listened to more for the novelty of what they say about popular trends, than what they say about music.
I have come to believe that the Stones will last because they will be remembered as what Rock n' Roll really felt like and meant. Primarily the period 68-78 period. NOt much else. I happen to be one who thinks the Stones STILL do some great music. But I don't think much will be remembered beyond that ten year period.
I also think Led Zeppelin will be remembered, but no so much for their Stairway and after period. More for the first three albums, the reinterpretations of blues music, and the mythological element they added to it, with an almost Wagnerian bombast, laden with a precision and the nuance and beauty of English Romanticism.
After that, not much will be remembered. Not in academia anyway. There will be music nerds like me, and you, who might say, hey we really need to pay attention to the Bix Beiderbeck's and the David Bowie's of the world. And what about Gram Parons, and The Cure? What about Jeff Buckley, and Jimi Hendrix, and fucking Buddy Holly?
Listen, I hope I am wrong, but I try to project myself into the future, and that's what I see happening.
Pasto: check this out. (URL is long enough, huh?)
https://selvedgeyard.com/2010/03/21/1969-desert-trippin-gram-parsons-anita-pallenberg-keith-richards/#:~:text=Gram%20Parsons%20and%20Keith%20Richards%20first%20met%20back,Keith%20was%20like%E2%80%93%20%E2%80%9CMan%2C%20we%20don%E2%80%99t%20go%20there.%E2%80%9D
By the way, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Chuck Berry, and Elvis will also be remembered. But Elvis will only have three or four songs he is remembered by. Very little will survive.
I love Elvis, but I can't imagine Now or Never, or You Are Always On My Mind being remembered. Only Jailhouse Rock, It's Alright Mama, Hound Dog, and Mystery Train, likely. IMO
Thanks for posting that article on Keith Richards and Gram Parsons. That's awesome.
Maybe Gram will be remembered. It is true that without Gram there would be no Eagles, no CSNY, no Neil Young, no Wilco, no Ryan Adams, etc.
It wasn't until I heard Gram Parsons in the early 90's that I realized how important he had been to much of what I had heard growing up.
He made a lot of things make sense, in retrospect, when I listened to him.
Likewise, though I always loved the Stones, it wasn't until the past 15 years or so that I realized they probably are the most important of all Rock n' Roll bands.
They still aren't my favorite. But the thing is, i have to back out my own feelings and tastes, and try to listen from the perspective of history.
I imagine in 200 years they will be tearing down Statues Of The Beatles In Liverpool because they were a reminder of the displaced white european culture.
It will be The Stones because Keith Richards will still be alive 200 years from now.
LOL
Good point.
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