"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1 Section 21:
Right to Bear Arms
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
Dear regular readers and Fellow Infidels:
You know how I feel about this subject. And you know how I can get. So maybe you just want to pass on by. Or stick around for some lunatic raging. . .
Listen up, people. I, Midnight Rider, hold a legal License to Carry Firearms in the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Which means I also have recipricol rights in 30 or so other states. AND I REGULARY CARRY A GUN. THAT'S RIGHT, A SIDEARM, WEAPON, PIECE, HEATER, WHATEVER THE HELL CLICHE YOU CHOOSE TO ATTACH TO IT. 24/7/365 except in unenlightened Victim Disarmament Zones.
I own near 20 handguns or so, 1 rests comfortably and loaded in the vehicle, 3 others are loaded in various places about my house. And as I type this I have a full size Springfield Armory 1911 Mil-Spec happily concealed on my hip.
Did I mention I have a 10 year old daughter? Who has easy access to those guns? But guess what. That kid has been taught gun safety and respect. She can shoot the smaller calibers and she knows that if she wants to see any gun in the house all she needs do is ask. My older adult daughters have been taught the same.
Well look at that. 4 people who regulary own and handle guns who haven't gone on a killing rampage today.
THE EVIL IS NOT IN THE GUN. IT IS IN THE HAND THAT HOLDS IT.
That Wong killed 13 people is tragic. But my daughters and I could have held those same guns AND THEY WOULD HAVE HURT NO ONE.
But of course now the fulll press is on from the media about any "national goal to deal with the epidemic" . Not the national epidemic (eight is an epidemic?) of unstable individuals who did the killing, but the epidemic of guns in our society.
First of all an epidemic is a disease. A gun is a thing. Right. Leave that.
Let's talk about the epidemic. 8 spree killings in a month. Now, I just named 4 non-spree killers. Here's 4 more: Jeanne Assam, Yitzschak Dadon, Ya'akov Asahel, Yaki Asa-El.
Well Hell, look at that. Eight Rampages with a gun. 8 non-rampages with a gun, including 4 that stopped rampages using that gun.
So, the eight wiping each other out, that leaves us 79,999,984 gun owners that did not go on a spree in America this last month. Don't hear much about that, do you? Or about crimes that are stopped by the mere presence of a gun without a shot being fired.
DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T USE MY GUN TO STOP SOMEONE FROM CARJACKING MY VEHICLE WITH MY KID STRAPPED IN THE BACKSEAT. DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T USE MY GUN TO STOP SOMEONE IN MY HOME ILLEGALLY IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT, INTENT ON DOING HARM TO MY FAMILY. DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T USE MY GUN TO STOP AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IN A MALL IF I'M THERE AND CAN DO SO. AND DON'T TELL ME I SHOULD CALL THE COPS AND WAIT FOR THEM. WE SAW HOW WELL THAT WORKED AT VIRGINIA TECH OR IN BINGHAMTON.
THE POLICE HAVE NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT YOU, TO INTERDICT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER. NONE. A NUMBER OF COURTS HAVE SO RULED. THEIR LEGAL OBLIGATION IS TO INVESTIGATE, ARREST, CLEAN UP THE FUCKING MESS.
YOUR SAFETY IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY.
But now it's on. The media is going to start trying to soften up the public for tougher gun laws, keep the guns out of the hands of the criminals by taking them from everyone. So then only the cops and military will have guns. And the criminals who didn't get them legally in the first place. Who could just as easily use a hammer, or screwdriver, or bulldozer.
Well, go ahead, come at me or my wife with a hammer or screwdriver. And guess how I am going to stop you.
That's right. You will experience, as Massad Ayoob calls it, " a catastrophic failure of the victim selection process".
Molon Labe MotherFuckers
from MSNBC:
Gunmen in mass killings had permits
Despite recent massacres, regulations aren’t getting any stricter
They had more in common than unleashing carnage — nearly every gunman in this monthlong series of mass killings was legally entitled to fire his weapons. (They also had one other thing in common -- they were all apparently unstable you fucking twits. AND THEY WERE NOT LEGALLY ENTITLED TO FIRE THAT WEAPON AT INNOCENT PEOPLE. THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITH THE SHOOTER WHO CHOSE TO ACT IRRESPONSIBLY)
So what does that say about the state of gun control laws in this country (not a goddamn thing) ? One thing appears certain: the regulations aren't getting stricter. Many recent efforts to change weapons laws have been about easing them. (as they should be)
Despite eight rampages that have claimed 57 lives since March 10, "it hasn't sparked any national goal to deal with this epidemic (see? there's the epidemic! makes the gun sound bad) . In fact, it's going the other way," said Scott Vogel of the Freedom States Alliance, a gun control activist group (weenies -- nanny staters -- the gov't will protect us) .
Even President Barack Obama has felt that sway. Last month, 65 House Democrats said they would block any attempt to resurrect an expired federal ban against assault weapons (PATRIOTS!).
'A long and divisive fight' (you betcha)
The pro-gun Democrats, led by Rep. Mike Ross of Arkansas, wrote Attorney General Eric Holder (super weenie) saying they opposed not only a ban on military-style guns, but also efforts "to pass any similar law."
Gun control issues would only produce "a long and divisive fight," they said, at a time when Congress should be focused on the roiling economy.
A few states are trying to loosen gun restrictions. In the Texas (GOD BLESS TEXAS!) Capitol — where legislators can carry guns — bills easily passed the Senate in recent weeks that would allow employees to bring weapons to work as long as they leave them locked in their cars (why?) , and let those packing heat (see! there's the cliche! makes the writer sound so cool and hip and the gun so bad) off the legal hook if they walked into a bar that didn't have signs saying guns weren't allowed inside.
The state also is considering allowing students licensed to carry a concealed weapon — there are about 300,000 such adults in Texas — to bring guns on campus (GOOD! Where can I sign THAT petition?) .
Kansas plans to put a measure on its 2010 ballot that would rewrite the state constitution to make gun ownership a personal, rather than collective, right (The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania already has this, has for a very long time) . In Tennessee, lawmakers made progress this month toward allowing guns to be carried in state and local parks.
‘Who's going to stop them?’ (Who's going to stop the spree killers)
"I think you're seeing a continuing change of culture," Vogel said. "I think the gun lobby wants to take away any stigma to gun ownership (YA THINK!?!?!?) . I think they feel emboldened, like who's going to stop them?"
The National Rifle Association, the country's most powerful gun lobbying group, declined to comment this week on gun control laws. "Now is not the time to debate politics or discuss policy. It is time for families and communities to grieve and to heal," it said in a prepared statement.
Groups such as Vogel's, and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, say existing laws are already too weak(ly enforced) — just look at the men who received gun permits, legally bought high-powered weapons, and then mowed down family, friends and total strangers in these past few weeks, they say.
Joining their outrage was the U.S. Conference of Mayors. "How many more gun-related acts of violence must we experience before the nation's leaders will decide that it is time to act?" asked president Manuel Diaz, mayor of Miami. (How many more life saving gun incidents will go unreported? Read Dr. Bulldog. He covers a TON of them Wheelgun is another very fine source)
No way to prevent insane acts
Gun enthusiasts say there is no way to prevent human beings from committing insane acts. Whether they have a gun permit or not.
On Friday, a depressed and angry Jiverly Wong used a 9 mm and .45-caliber handgun to kill 13 immigrants and service center employees in Binghamton, N.Y., police said. Earlier that day, the ethnic Chinese immigrant from Vietnam mailed an envelope to a Syracuse television station. In it were his gun permit, photos of him smiling while hoisting shiny, big handguns, and his driver's license.
Questions have been raised over the upstate New York gun permit issued to Wong in 1997. Two years later, he was reported to state police by an informer who claimed Wong was planning a bank heist to feed a crack-cocaine habit. Unlike other areas of the state, including New York City, Wong's Broome County permit did not have to be renewed.
Broad discretion
Local authorities, however, have broad discretion in reviewing and revoking such permits, according to legal experts. Especially when it comes to drug use, criminal behavior and violence.
"In retrospect, this is probably not a guy who should have had a gun (YA THINK MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN LOOSE?!?!?) ," said attorney Jeffrey Chamberlain, a former Rochester prosecutor and chief counsel to the New York State Police. "No one likes to see things fall through the cracks and it looks like this guy fell through the cracks (And of course that's the fucking fault of the gun, not the authorities who were suppsoed to be enforcing the existing laws. and New York's are fairly strict) ."
Binghamton police chief Joseph Zikuski said Tuesday that no robbery occurred and there was no merit to review Wong's gun permit.
In New York City, gun permits are reissued every three years.
Yet, regulations differ only slightly between states, Chamberlain said. "They're fairly typical — don't be a felon, don't be a drunk, don't beat your kids or your wife. Don't be so mentally unbalanced that you need be in an institution." (That's a fucking lie. In at least 4 states you need no permit at all to carry a gun open or concealed and they have some of the lowest gun related crime in the country. Regulations vary widely, often making you a felon just by crossing from one state to another with a firearm)
‘We've had guns for a very long time’
To Chamberlain, the answer to gun violence lies not in stricter regulations, but in answering the question, "Why are we so tolerant of having guns in this country? The answer to that is historical. We've had guns for a very long time.
"I can't think of any sweeping law change that would address that."
To Vogel, the answer to why atrocities happen in places such as Binghamton, and before that Washington state and Santa Clara, Calif., lies in sheer numbers.
The number 280 million, to be precise, the estimated total of every gun in this country.
"When you have that many guns, those guns are going to be used in horrific (and in heroic) ways," Vogel said.
"There's just too many. Inevitably, somehow, some way, those weapons are going to be used in an egregious way."
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. (Goddamn right it was the AP. Fucking liberal shills. I wouldn't want credit for that piece of tripe)
15 comments:
More people are killed by cars each year than by guns.
Sometimes, licensed drivers purposely kill people with cars.
But, I have yet to see any politicians outlawing cars...
BTW - Since when did licensing guns become a guarantee that the gun-owner wouldn't use his or her weapon to commit a crime? It doesn't guarantee squat.
So, one could argue that gun permits are useless, and should therefore be abolished...
I mean, why the heck do you need to get a gun permit anyway? All it is is a way for the government to know who has a gun and who doesn't. Besides, thanks to brain-dead Libtards, EVERYONE is now required to register their guns. It's the freakin' law!
So, is it any wonder that, if EVERYONE is required to register their guns, someone is going to commit a crime with a legally registered gun?
Again, having a gun permit has NOTHING to do with being a responsible individual.
So, this whole, "It's an epidemic! They all had gun permits and yet they're killing people" is just a load of horse manure and means, as you put it, "not a g-damn thing!"
So, what do we, as 2nd Amenders, do? Here's a thought:
Turn it around on them, saying something like: Since gun registration and gun permits have failed to prevent nut-jobs from shooting anyone, why don't we just get rid of those ineffective and archaic laws?
Then, watch them squirm as they try to justify why we "need" to continue registering guns and issuing permits.
Yup, it's a lost argument for Libtards once they admit that permits don't stop nut-jobs.
Cheers
Ban swimming pools! Cars! Skiing! Roller blading! Cooking! Playing with matches!
OK - so what media outlet can we use to counter this mindless propaganda? Epidemic??? Come on.
I happen to love the "gun permits cause murder" argument above, by the way.
Ummm... FYI - Ya'akov Asahel and Yaki Asa-El are the same person. Otherwise, you're OK here.
My word to the media? It's the economy not the guns. Even if they banned guns, wacked out people will still get their hands on them. And if they can't they'll use something else.
I too grew up in a house full of guns. Actually shot a 44 mag when I was only 10 : ). I won't say that guns don't ever cause problems in a home, I was witness to it. Needless to say, alcohol and guns do not mix.
BUT, I am a firm believer in the second amendment and feel it is up to the individual to decide whether or not to have a gun in the home.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
The MSM need to go back to the root cause of the murder/suicides.
Obama's destruction of our economy.
Although suicide was the major "way out" in the great depression, murder/suicide (taking the whole family) did occur. And it is happening now at a greater pace. It will continue as long as the economy continues to spiral down. No, I will never feel these killings are right. But, they are happening for a reason.
There aren´t even 20 millions of us in my homeland and people are being killed by criminals that mostly come from abroad (yeah, our borders are open), we don´t have guns. Guess who's being persecuted?! The people who speak out!
Great post!
While we are running the list of bans, can we add stairs? I think the Government should permanently ban all stairs, as mine tried to violently 'take me out' last week and I am certain that many staircases have actually succeeded in murdering innocent people.
Ashan -- I didn't realize that. He stopped the bulldozer attack in Jerusalem but I though the other was the name of the other Israeli who stopped the earlier bulldozer attack in the settlements. If you know that man's name I'd appreciate the info if not you get the idea what I was trying to show.
Thanks for the heads up.
midnight rider,
One of the most upsetting facts about one of the recent shooting was that the perpetrator had as a motive the fear that Obama might try to take his guns away. Now, I'm an opponent of gun control in general, but going on a shooting rampage and killing a few police officers who are trying to save the lives of innocents from you, is just about the worst way to fight gun control. If you really want to fight gun control join the NRA or a similar organization. Don't go on a shooting rampage and murder innocent people with a fire arm.
No argument, Damien. But the responsibility lies with the person who chose to do the shooting, not the gun itself or all the legal law abiding gun owners.
midnight rider,
You wrote,
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No argument, Damien. But the responsibility lies with the person who chose to do the shooting, not the gun itself or all the legal law abiding gun owners.
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We don't have a disagreement there either.
No, I didn't think we would :)
I am opposed to gun control laws, however, there is one problem with firearms: they give some people a false sense of power and therefore make them more likely to make irrational decisions. Of course this all rests in the individual, but we all know that power certainly has the potential to corrupt. In the wrong hands, guns can embolden people to do things they otherwise would never try (i.e. pick fights, provoke others, shoot someone in the heat of the moment). In the US, guns frequently find their ways to the wrong people, such as criminals, gangs, and drug cartels. The cartels in Mexico that continually outgun police are often armed with weapons originating from the US. This is without a doubt a very complicated issue that is unlikely to be solved any time in the forseeable future. MR, I know your family and the majority of Americans don't have this problem and neither do Israeli citizens who rely on their firearms to help ensure public safety.
Total -- good and valid points, all, but it is still the individual that makes the choice. Outlaw guns (which I realize you are NOT advocating here) and the bad guys will still find a way to get them and the law abiding folks would have no way to defend themselves.
Banning the guns or have no government oversight on who's buying them are 2 extremes I don't want to see. Letting mentally impaired or pedophiles having unrestricted access is a no-go for me. Just as well confiscating the guns and outlawing them on normal citizens will probably spark more violence and claim more life's than this law intends to save.
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