Nationalized Health Care And The Pussification Of The Western World

A Conversation Between An English Bloke And An American Asshole

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Pastorius:

If Healthcare is a right, then why is it that food is not a right?

After all, we need food even more than we need healthcare, right?

Now, here's something else for you to ponder (and I've told you this before, but you seem to forget), EVERYONE IN AMERICA CAN GET FREE HEALTHCARE AT ANY TIME,

ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

IN AMERICA, EVEN ILLEGAL ALIENS GET FREE HEALTHCARE,

so, why is it we need Government-arbitrated/mandated healthcare, then?

Hmm?

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:28:00 PM

Ray Boyd said...

The Emergency Room may be too late. The cancer may have spread too far. Early treatment/diagnosis is not an emergency but is nonetheless an essential.

You know I will jump in when UK issues are seen incorrectly, that's what I'm here for!! LOL

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:12:00 PM

Pastorius said...

This is a case of a Dr. making a decision/argument that a plug ought to be pulled.

That's none of the Drs. business.

We have the same problem here, this is not merely a UK problem. Drs. pull the same shit here, as do Hospital Staff.

The problem is, however, only exacerbated by nationalized healthcare.

You say that problem has nothing to do with the NHS.

Who does the Dr. work for?

Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:54:00 AM

Ray Boyd said...

"The NHS is not saying the plug should be pulled, the mother is."

That is the fact of the matter.

Look, before the NHS healthcare depended on charity for the poor, the rich of course could afford to pay.

We have had the NHS for 72 years. We pay for it via our National "Insurance" Contributions during our working life.

We like it, we want it and it is the solution for a civilised country. End of (sic) ...

Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:26:00 AM

Pastorius said...

So when are you going to start paying for each other's food via National Food Insurance?

Think about it ... Food is even more vital than healthcare. So, why not start with food?

You only believe this is rational because you have grown up in it.

You are like a fish talking about oxygen.

You seem to have no idea that things ought to be different.

You won't bother to answer my question about food, because you don't understand how to two topics relate.

You like that someone else pays for your healthcare (presumbaly, you are not one of the top earners in your country, and neither am I ,by the way, so that is no putdown), and why shouldn't you like that someone else is paying for it?

Now, it makes sense to pay for healthcare for those who absolutely can't afford it, like older people on retirement and Social Security, or people who are disabled in one way or another. But, it doesn't make sense to pay for the healthcare of people who are able-bodied. They ought to take care of themselves.

The price of Freedom is having to take care of oneself and not expecting others to take care of you. It's like when you moved out of your parents house. You had to pay your bills.

But, more and more, our societies in the Western World are deciding that we will pay each others bills.

This is making us whiny teenagers again, and that whiny teenage mentality is weakening us and making us more susceptible to the Jihad.

THIS IS, BY THE WAY, THE REASON I WRITE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

Because his policy ideas will weaken our resolve, make us a less flexible nation, and ultimately weaken our economy, making us weaker militarily as well.

As has been evidenced before, you don't seem to care much that America becomes weaker militarily. After all, why should this nation, with only 4-5% of the world's population, have so much power? Who cares about the fact that we keep the sea lanes open for free trade? Who cares about the fact that Russia is simulating nuclear warfare against POland? Who cares about the fact that Obama is dropping our allies and cozying up to Socialist thugs? Obama fucks with Brown? Who cares? What does it matter?

Who needs America anyway?

At least someone pays for our healthcare.

Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:53:00 PM

Ray Boyd said...

"So when are you going to start paying for each other's food via National Food Insurance"

That's just an absurd notion. We are talking about healthcare here. You don't like it we do, so stop knocking our system and let your people die.

I don't come in here knocking the US, except Obama of course. I have never said anything about Obama weakening the US, don't have that knowledge yet, but it seems to be going that way. No, it's not a good thing.

Do read the posts properly, i already said I paid for my healthcare during my working life. You said:

"You like that someone else pays for your healthcare (presumbaly, you are not one of the top earners in your country, and neither am I ,by the way, so that is no putdown), and why shouldn't you like that someone else is paying for it?"

I don't come in here for pointless discussion that just goes round in circles, without the points I make being read.

Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:56:00 PM

Pastorius said...

Ray,
You said: That's just an absurd notion. We are talking about healthcare here.


I say: LOL

I'm sure that's not funny to you, but it is to me.


You said: Do read the posts properly, i already said I paid for my healthcare during my working life.


I say: I'm sorry if I misunderstood. Are you saying you paid for healthcare insurance which was not provided for by the government? Are you saying that you paid the same amount as everyone else (like I do when I pay for insurance), not percentage-wise, but the same amount?

Are you saying that the NHS is for retirees, whereas working people pay for their own insurance, and everyone pays the same amount?

If so, then your system is fair.

You are reasonable in asking me to shut up about Britain. But, what you could not understand is that the Americans are being pressured to accept this Nationalized Healthcare by being told how beneficial it is in Canada, England, and Sweden.

This is why Americans keep ripping on British healthcare. It's nothing against Brits. It's that we don't want your system. It's not American.

And frankly, if you pay a percentage based upon your income for your healthcare, it isn't good for you either, in my opinion.

Redistribution of wealth is for pussies, and it makes pussies out of a society.

Look at the problems that Britain and the United States are having. We're acting like a bunch of pussies.

You guys used to run most of the world. We do now, but our President is squandering all that power, and making us look like a bunch of pussies.

The Brits and the Americans are not pussies, and we can not afford to act like Pussies.

What do you think would happen to you if you joined your equivalent of the Marines, and you asked the three hundred pound guy to carry part of your load, because you only weigh 175 pounds?

You'd get your ass kicked, and that would be appropriate.

That's the way life should be.

And, just for comic relief, let's watch a scene from Team America: