Sunday, June 13, 2010

Newsbusters:

Maher: Media 'Way Too Stupid' to Understand Israel/Palestine Conflict, So They Side with the Palestinians
By Jeff Poor



It wasn't us who said this. Instead, it's one of their own - an outspoken openly liberal talk show with a cynical view of the mainstream media.

On the June 11 Web portion of HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher" called "Overtime," Newsweek editor Jon Meacham offered the argument there is not a pro-Israel bias in the media, which is often alleged.

"The idea that there is a pro-Israeli bias in the broad media - whatever ‘the media' means at this point, I strongly disagree with," Meacham said. "I think if anything you run into a very strong feeling on the Palestinian side."

That led another panelist on Maher's show, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow to protest by asking who is pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel in politics or media.

"Who speaks out publicly in a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli way in mainstream American politics, or media?" Maddow asked.

Aside from the obvious answer - Helen Thomas, the media have attacked Israel time and time and time again. (One might suggest Maddow spend some time reading NewsBusters if she is looking for answers.) However, that prompted Maher to say the media are anti-Israel, pro-Palestine. And he offered a reason why. [Emphasis added]

"I think most of them do because I think the media, to take up your point, mostly - is way too stupid to understand the issues," Maher said. "So what they do is they go toward, ‘Oh, who's a victim?' And yes, their situation in Gaza is tragic. But partly it is tragic of their own making."

14 comments:

Damien said...

Midnight Rider,

You know, I disagree with Bill Maher on a lot of things, but this just shows that the claim that he's the dumbest man in America is false. A lot of otherwise very smart people, don't get the Palestinian Israel conflict at all.

Epaminondas said...

THAT left will silently nod and think, well, he's one of THEM isn't he?

Pastorius said...

But the truth is, in the case of the Jews, the gallows doth NOT wonderfully concentrate the mind.

They voted for Obama en masse.

American Rose said...

Okay, I'll say it again, Bill does a great job in showing Islam for what it is: totalitarianism. Don't throw the Bill out with the bathwater, completely!

I'll post here, what I posed at WZ, cause I thought his discussion with "Queenie Noor," which came at the beginning of the show, was sublime. And by way of explanation, most folks on WZ HATE him, unequivocally, which is stupid, and dumb, which means stupid:)

"I’m sorry, did you all not hear him correctly? I wish the piece could have been a little longer, he stood steadfastly with Israel, while Oliver Stone sat there and facially disagreed with everything Bill said. What about the 10,000 missiles, Bill said? They are living this way because they do not want peace, Bill said of the Palestinians.

I’m telling you, Bill has a conservative streak, … probably better said, a pro-America streak. He may only be half-Jewish and raised Catholic, but he always stands for and defends Israel against his leftist moron friends and show guests.

Come on Bill, if only you had spoke so strongly against the f-ing ground zero place of warship, but you said at the beginning of that show that your liberal friends are telling you you are becoming to conservative! You are an American Bill. You were drooling all over John Bolton, and I know you will vote for him. You love America, and you are an American, and we despise Islam and all the evil it represents. Screw your stupid liberal friends. They are stupid. Be youself Bill. You’re best when you’re not worrying about what your liberal friends think!!! I was feeling down most of last night’s show, but your strong defense of Israel pulled me through. See you next season!

Oh yeah, I loved it when he asked “Queen Noor” why he had to call her “Her Majesty,” how phony royal titles were! That was a nice start Bill, … but when she declared that her husband was a direct descendent of Moehammy, that pedophile and murderous thug, why didn’t you ask her how she would be proud of such a thing? Bill you really could have discredited this “prophet” of thugs by pointing out the horrible psychopath he was!

Did love how Bill sarc told her how her “hair” was perfect! That was great! Her and Rania, the only Muslim women in the world who can’t be beaten or beheaded for not wearing a headscarf! Rank has its priviledge.

Also, I loved how he took her to task for Jordan not trying to solve the Palestinian “problem” when they controlled Gaza. He got a few jabs in.

I bet it really kills Lisa that her son has lost any right of ascension to the throne. She’s been marginalized by BEAutiful Rania as well, who is quite the activist. I’m actually really surprised “Queen Noor” stays as faithful to Jordan and Islam after her husband humiliated her by having an affair/affairs? prior to his illness, … wouldn’t put it past her to be plotting some way her son could/will be king:)

I wish Rania could do something to end honor killings in Jordan! Come on Rania, put your heart and head where your hairspray is! Let’s see you do something for the advancement of women in your country, for women’s rights!"

Brooke said...

I must be in an alternate reality! LOL!

Pastorius said...

Bill Maher can be great on the subject of Islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENCQT4uFFuU

Pastorius said...

American Rose,

I can't find any links on that Bill Maher interview with Queen Rania. I bet it's been disappeared.

Epaminondas said...

I was at a Bat Mitzvah last night and talking with 5 other men including the father of the Bat Mitzvah gal. 3 more at a temple meeting today ... all of whom WORKED for Obama.

UNANIMOUSLY .. they all were sorry for the reason of Israel, but some still supported his domestic agenda, and wondered if the republicans would

HAVE
SOMEONE
THEY
MIGHT
BE
ABLE
TO
VOTE
FOR
IN
2012

A history prof WANTS HIM OUT..period.

Somewhat heartening

American Rose said...

No, not Rania, "Queen Noor." It's at the beginning of this week's show, the season finale. It will run on HBO all this week at different times. Consult your tv guide.

I'm telling ya Brooke, I'm surprised they haven't killed him yet! I know, he's gotten the usual death threats. He gives Islam the hell it deserves!

Bill is a conservative, he's just overly susceptible to peer preasure so he's having trouble admitting it to himself. I swear!

Damien said...

Pastorius,

That video of Bill Maher on a Burqa fashion show is really funny. I think you once had it imbeded in the IBA's sided bar.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
Yes, that used to be in our sidebar.

Pastorius said...

By the way, I'm ALL FOR GIVING ISLAM SHIT.

And, if anyone has ever heard my radio show, they would know, I give Islam big time shit. No one pours it on harder than I do. The Infidel Bloggers Alliance Radio Show earned it's fatwas.

Now, the reason I say that is, with that this past week, my co-host and I were talking about the media and their absence on the Ground Zero Mosque story.

And, this is what I had to say,

"The only mainstream media sources that really give Islam the shit it deserves are

Jon Stewart
South Park
and

Bill Maher.

I admire those three.

All three are leftie types. South Park agrees with Righties on many issues, but in general South Park is more left than right.

Why is it that no other right wing source is willing to really lay it on Islam.

Islam deserves no respect. It does not even really deserve the respectful intellectual critique Robert Spencer gives it. That is not a criticism of Spencer. I admire Spencer and am thankful he does what he does, because it is, ultimately, necessary.

But, quite frankly, doing an intellectual critique of Islam is like doing an intellectual critique of a serial killer telling scatological jokes. It's just fucking stupid. Page upon page of stupidity.

That's why Father Zakaria apologizes for the things he must say when he talks about Islam. Because it is fucking embarrassing.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

Micheal Savage really hates Islam as well, and really disses Islam, and he's a conservative, In fact, based on some of the stuff he has written and said over the years, we can safely say, he's more conservative then many of the people on this blog. That includes the two of us by the way. Also, from what I understand, for the most part South Park is neither left wing or right wing, but libertarian. I even remember a group of libertarians praising the show for being libertarian.

Pastorius said...

Yeah, you're right about Savage. I'm not much of a fan.

Here's the thing, there are many people who are critical of Islam, and there are people are willing to tell the truth about Islam. But, the ultimate truth is, Islam is such a sick political-religio ideology that it deserves no respect whatsoever. And so, the best thing anyone can do is talk about without any respect.

Would we talk about Nazism with respect? Would we study their ideology as if it was worthy? Would we talk about the Ku Klux Klan's ideology with respect? Would we honor their symbols, and make sure not to offend?

No, we wouldn't.

And, neither should we show any respect to Islam.