Monday, June 21, 2010

What Everyone Should Know about Animal Rights

From Purebred Cats.org, with much thanks to Damien:
Animal rights groups seek the end to all breeding of animals. Their stated ultimate goal is no use of animals by man -- for food, fiber, medical research nor even as pets. This is apparent from the quotes of their agendas and views you will find below. Animal rights and Animal Welfare have markedly different philosophies.
ANIMAL RIGHTS AND "COMPANION ANIMALS"
"We are not especially 'interested in' animals. Neither of us had ever been inordinately fond of dogs, cats, or horses in the way that many people are. We didn't 'love' animals."
-- Peter Singer*, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd ed. (New York Review of Books, 1990), Preface, p. ii.
*Peter Singer is the acknowledged founding father and chief guru of the Animal Rights movement. Singer's disciple is Ingrid Newkirk, who co-founded People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, also known as PETA. For more information, read About Peter Singer Who is Peter Singer?
"In a perfect world, all other-than-human animals would be free of human interference, and dogs and cats would be part of the ecological scheme, as they were before humans domesticated them and as they remain in some parts of the undeveloped world."
-- From The PETA Statement on Companion Animals
"In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive."
-- PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners?
"The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by  neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."
-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.
"It is time we demand an end to the misguided and abusive concept of animal ownership. The first step on this long, but just, road would be ending the concept of pet ownership."
-- Elliot Katz, President, In Defense of Animals, "In Defense of Animals," Spring 1997
FROM HSUS
"Human care (of animals) is simply sentimental, sympathetic patronage."
-- Dr. Michael W. Fox, HSUS, in 1988 Newsweek interview
"We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. ... One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding."
-- Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President oF HSUS, formerly of Friends for Animals; Quoted in Animal People, May, 1993
"The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration."
-- Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President oF HSUS, formerly of Friends for Animals - In Inhumane Society, 1990
"The life of an ant and the life of my child should be accorded equal respect."
-- Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President oF HSUS, formerly of Friends for Animals, The Associated Press, Jan. 15, 1989
THE TWELVE STEPS OF THE ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS AGENDA
The agenda is taken from "The politics of Animal Liberation" written by Kim Barlett, Editor of the Animals' Agenda, Nov. 1987 but a miminally modified version is part of the Green Party Platform for 2000.
THE AGENDA
  1. Abolish by law animal research.
  2. Outlaw the use of animals for cosmetic and product testing, classroom demonstrations and weapons development.
  3. Vegetarian meals should be made available at all public institutions, including schools.
  4. Eliminate all animal agriculture. (This is your food sources people)
  5. End herbicides, pesticides, and other Agricultural chemicals. Outlaw predator control.
  6. Transfer enforcement of animal welfare legislation away from the dept. of Agriculture
  7. Eliminate fur ranching and end the use of furs.
  8. Prohibit hunting, trapping and fishing.
  9. End the international trade in wildlife goods.
  10. Stop any further breeding of companion animals, *including purebred dogs and cats*. Spaying and neutering should be subsidized by State and Municipal governments. Commerce in domestic and exotic animals for the *pet trade* should be abolished.
  11. End the use of animals in entertainment
ANIMAL RIGHTS...IN THE WORDS OF ITS LEADERS
"The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats ... If people want toys they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship they should seek it with their own kind."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, "Animals," May/June 1993
"I don't use the word 'pet.' I think it's speciest language. I prefer 'companion animal.' We would no longer allow... pet shops... Eventually companion animals would be phased out."
-- (Harper's Magazine, Aug. 1988)
"One day we would like an end to pet shops and breeding animals [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990
"I think the whole concept of private property as an ultimate 'good' has got to be replaced. There's a higher good out there than private property...."
-- David Foreman, co-founder and leader, Earth First! (Animal Rights Reporter, June, 1989)
"You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them....One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild....They would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV."
-- "Where Would We Be Without Animals?", Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990
"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, PETA, "Just Like Us? Toward a Notion of Animal Rights" (symposium) Harper's, August 1988, p. 50.
"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it."
-- John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic (Washington D C, PETA, 1982). p. 15
"As the surplus of cats and dogs (artifically engineered by centuries forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship - enjoyment from a distance."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, "Just Like Us?......(see above)
Classic Quotes
"We feel that animals have the same rights as a retarded human child"
-- Alex Pacheco, then Chairman, People for the Ethical Treatment of animals [PETA] (New York Times, January 14, 1989)
"The theory of animal rights is simply not consistent with the theory of animal welfare or other approaches that reject the rights view and, more importantly, embrace animal exploitation. Animal rights means dramatic social changes for humans and nonhumans alike; if our bourgeois values prevent us from accepting those changes. then we have no right to call ourselves advocates of animal rights."
-- Gary Francione, Director of the Rutgers Animal Rights Law Clinic (The Animals'Voice, VOL. 4, NO. 2, pp. 54-55)
"As long as humans have rights and nonhumans do not, as is the case in the welfarist framework then nonhumans will virtually always lose when their interests conflict with human interests. Thus welfare reforms, by their very nature, can only serve to retard the pace at which animal rights goals are achieved."
-- Gary Francione and Tom Regan ("A Movement's Means Create Its Ends", Animals' Agenda, January-February, 1992)
"I think the whole concept of private property as an ultimate good has got to be replaced. There's a higher good out there than private property."
-- David Foreman, Co-Founder and Leader, Earth First! (Animal Rights Reporter, June, 1989)
In Q&A session following a speech, "Animal Rights, Human Wrongs", University Of Wisconsin-Madison, October 27, 1989, Tom Regan, when asked which he would save, a dog or a baby, if a boat capsized in the ocean, responded: "If it were a retarded baby and a bright dog, I'd save the dog."
And lest we forget where we're seen similar rhetoric and Animal Rights trumpeted before:
"Man should not feel so superior to animals. He has not the right to."
-- Adolph Hitler, 1939
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19 comments:

Damien said...

Pastorius,

You're Welcome.

Just out of curiosity, did you happen to know any of this about the animal rights movement before I pointed this article out to you? From what I've heard, its something that even some of its supporters don't know.

Pastorius said...

I have heard a bit of this about PETA. I know a bit about Peter Singer.

But, while I suspected much of it, this goes a long way to proving it.

Additionally, and I'm not quite sure how this is related, BabbaZee has collected a lot of information on the eugenics insanity in elite thinkers/Leftists.

When it comes down to it, it seems, there are two types of people,

those who choose life

and

those who choose death

Those who choose death masque their hatred of the gifts granted them behind a thick web of "nuance" which obfuscates the fact that what they are truly in love with is the notion of death.

This seems a simplistic reading of the fundamental differences between Right and Left, until you read stuff like this information which you forwarded to me.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

I don't think, that we can reasonably say that leftists in general are in love with death, but it appears that some radical leftists are. I was far more into anti animal rights blogs prior to nine eleven, but after that I become more concerned with Islamic terrorism. If you want I could send you a link to some hard cor anti animal rights websites. Also my teachers went over the animal rights movement and its philosophy, in one or two of the philosophy classes I took, so I know a lot about it, although I probably couldn't be called an expert on the subject. I think the animal rights movement is largely based on emotions in general, but not necessarily hatred for mankind, although there maybe some misanthropy involved. The animal rights movement has used Holocaust imagery for a long time. Including, Peta's ultra offensive and tasteless "Holocaust on Your Plate," campaign.

But they are hypocrites more than anything else. None of them based on what I know, are willing to go without the very cures created by animal research that they demand that we abandon. They demand that we stop all animal research to protect animals, even at the cost of human lives, yet they refuse to stop vaccinating themselves, and using other medications brought to us by medical research on animals.

I think much of the support of animal rights is due to our lack of connection with the natural world. When most people had to hunt and gather, or even raise their own live stock, based on all I've seen, there was little if any support for what we would call "animal rights" and for good reason. Today at least in the first world, we have enough
plenty for some people to engage in an animal rights fantasy. However, I don't think that most animal right activists full comprehend what would happen if they got their way. Few of them would be able to survive in a more natural environment, outside of a city and outside of the modern world, and than if they were force into a situation where they were made to experience what they would be like, they might not be so supportive of a philosophy that demands that human cease all use of lower animals.

Damien said...

Mherzog,

I followed that link you sent us. It, takes me to what appears to be a pro animal rights website with lots of videos supporting their point of view, but not any particular video. But it might be good for anyone who is interested in the animal rights philosophy, that said, I didn't take the time to watch any of the videos. I don't want to be grossed out. But thanks any.

Damien said...

By the way, just to let everyone know, the hypocrites at Peta have killed animals when it is not convenient for them to let them live.

Unknown said...

Hi Pastorius.
Sigh i can't say i'm surprised ,choked yes but not surprised.For the last year there has been a battle in Canada between 2 opposing Animal welfare groups ,one accusing the other of animal cruelty even closing down one and starting legal action .The one that starts legal action is the one who kills most of the animals in his care due to X number of "reasons".About 2 months back they killed over 100 cats&Dogs due to a Ringworm infection.I'm not a vet but i tought this is curable?And it's sure no lack of funds that is the reason!
Sigh this world is just going nuts!

Always On Watch said...

"...Eventually companion animals would be phased out."
-- (Harper's Magazine, Aug. 1988)


Huh!

Pet therapy is all the rage at medical facilities. And pet therapy does help the patients.

And what about service dogs for the disabled?

revereridesagain said...

I think I mentioned this earlier, but I've been aware of the odd phenom of very dark, actually satanist cults becoming involved with "animal rights". (Damien, do you know the history behind the Best Friends animal "sanctuary" in Utah?) These are sophisticated groups, not kids into "heavy metal". There is a "man is just another animal" pov at work here, and in the Hitlerian sense.

Pastorius said...

I took Mr. Herzog's comment down, because we do not allow spam here, and I believe it was spam. If Mr. Herzog wants to come here and actually have a conversation, rather than merely leaving a link, he is more than welcome to do so.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
I know what you mean about the philosophically naiive Peta-types.

However, as RRA points out, there are also very sophisticated people behind these movements. In my estimation, such people are where the ideas originate from.

It is important to note, when RRA refers to "satanists", that she is an atheist. She does not believe in Satan herself. So, she is not some hysterical Christian attempting to blame all bad things on Satan. She is talking about actual groups of people who believe in the Satanic philosophy, who are producing ideas on animals rights (which is not just about the vaunting of animals, but also, at the same time, about bringing humans down to the level of animals) which are philosophically sophisticated and purposeful, not merely based on emotions.

Am I getting that right, RRA?

Damien said...

Always On Watch,

True believers in Animal rights have openly opposed all medical research involving animals, according to Activist Cash,

# PETA opposes life-saving medical research.
PETA has repeatedly attacked groups like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, for conducting animal testing to find cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. When asked if she would oppose an experiment on five thousand rats if it would result in a cure for AIDS, Newkirk responded: "Would you be opposed to experiments on your daughter if you knew it would save fifty million people?" In addition to opposing any and all medical research that uses animals, PETA also insults medical professionals by arguing, with a straight face, that animal testing is a counterproductive means of finding cures for human diseases.

# PETA devalues human life.
PETA's efforts to treasure every mosquito and cockroach invariably lead them to hate human beings for using bug spray and RAID. Ingrid Newkirk argues that as human beings, "we're the biggest blight on the face of the earth."


Source

One animal rights activist has even stated, "Even If Animal Research Resulted In A Cure For AIDS, We'd Be Against It"

So to answer your question about service dogs who help disabled people, I'd have to say yes, if animal rights activists had their way, we would get rid of those as well, regardless of how much it would cause disabled people to suffer.

Damien said...

Revere Rides Again,

I've never heard that about story about of group of satanic animal rights activists. I regard animal rightists as followers of an evil depraved philosophy, but I'd never associate it with Satanism.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

I never said that there was no misanthropy involved with the animal rights movement. In many cases, there may not be that much in the low level ranks of animal rights activists who don't truly understand the philosophy and goals of the groups they are supporting, but there clearly is in some in the higher ups.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

By the way, I was well aware that Revere Rides Again, is an atheist, so I wouldn't think that she'd be one, to just yell Satan everywhere she went that she saw something that she didn't like.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
You said: I never said that there was no misanthropy involved with the animal rights movement.


I say: I'm not really arguing with you here.

I'm just writing about what is going on, in my opinion.

I don't know of any definitive histories of the animal rights movement, so I don't know that there is any authoritative text, is there?

Damien said...

Pastorius,

The animal rights movement is and is not like a religion, in may respects. There isn't any one book that the entire movement follows. There are some pretty good resources on the movement, some by people who oppose it, but perhaps its better to learn about the movement from its biggest champions.

Although I haven't read it, I've heard a lot of things about this book. Animal Liberation is one of the modern animal right's movements founding documents, and I bet you won't be surprised by who wrote it. In addition, Peter Singer has wrote many other books in support of "liberating animals." You can also read many other books by other supporters of animal rights and animal liberation. The two terms are synonymous, they are basically the same thing.

Black_Rain said...

Well first off... this isn't a Leftist Movement, it is simply a group of people who all refuse to take their medication....

it is a Cult. i hate to say it but those pukes really make Jim Jones and Charlie Manson look good.

those people are really certifiably mentally ill, does anyone know a DeProgrammer from the 80's that needs work..?

Big Tex said...

Whoah! Typical IBA post: when discussing opponents be sure to NOT distinguish between radicals/fundamentalists/extremists and mainstreams/moderates. Whether the opposition comes from Moslems or animal rights advocates. Of course, ALL animal rights advocates are exactly the same as PETA or ALF/ELF! If you titled this "What Everyone Should Know about PETA," then it would be a whole 'nother story.

As for the 11 points (btw, the idiot who originally authored that can't count!), some are perfectly reasonable, others are utterly insane. Points 1, 4, 5, 8, and 11 are insane. (Actually, #5 would have a more destructive effect on the food supply than #4, because it would even interfere with plant foods. And point 11 is so hopelessly vague, anybody can be found guilty.) Points 2 and 3 are perfectly reasonable. I have no opinion on point 6 or 7. (I do not have enough details on the specifics conerning #6, but I do not get the appeal of wearing around a dead animal, unless maybe it's some sexual fetish. It looks god damn rediculous!) Point 9 is a bit complicated. If applied accross the board, it's a little insane, but its reasonable to want to thwart poaching of or trade in endangered wildlife. Ditto, point 10. Discontinuing the breeding of ALL pets is utterly insane, as is banning pet ownership or the buying of selling. However, spaying and neutering to control the population is reasonable, as is restricting or even outlawing trade in "exotic" pets. (E.g. Burmese pythons which are becoming an invasive species in Florida, or pet primates.)

Roughly half of the Eleven Points are roughly insane, a few of them are perfectly reasonable. The mistake is assuming that anyone who supports "animal rights" itself a broad concept, supports the entire agenda of PETA. I'm not sure if I am an "animal rights advocate" (I'm not even a vegetarian!) but I hate PETA.

But this is the IBA worldview. "If they disagree with us, then they invariably agree with the worst of our enemies."

And in true IBA fashion, the article ends with a Hitler quote. (Godwin's law much?) And unsurprisingly all your fans bow down and worship the great dear leader Pastorius, an unemployed middle aged blogger who apparently knows shit about shit, as if he's the greatest human being ever to walk God's green Earth.

Pastorius said...

LOL