Chinese Women are Traveling to America to Give Birth and Deliver Citizenship
From Weasel Zippers:End birthright citizenship…
Beijing – Wang Rong, who is six-months pregnant, is about to leave Beijing for California so she can give birth to her baby in the United States and give the child its first gift – US citizenship.
The special delivery will cost Wang and her husband, both white-collar workers in the capital, 100,000 yuan ($15,000), but they say it is money well spent.
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22 comments:
Pastorius,
I agree that we need to end birthright citizenship or at least modified the law so that the child won't get automatic citizenship unless one or both parents are already U.S Citizens and both legally live here. The biggest problem is that in order to legitimately change the law, we will have to amend the constitution, something that not easy to do and was never meant to be easy to do. Things like this, are something that wasn't even thought of, to my knowledge when the fourteenth Amendment was written.
I think we do need to amend the Constitution, because you're right, that's what it would take.
Yes. After they get the certificate, they then fly the child back to China so that it can learn the language and be raised in a CHines manner.
I live in China Town, NYC. A large majority here do not speak English and I am going to guess that about 50% of the people shopping in my local stores use foodstamps.
Pastorius and Culturist John,
Yes and this not the only reason to do this. The biggest problem is, how do we get enough support to change the constitution? We need two thirds of the state legislatures to support us, unless we are willing to go the convention route, and that's dangerous. Ending the right to citizenship by birth, or even putting a restriction on it, will be very controversial.
Do either of you have any ideas?
Damien,
Call me crazy, but I think most Americans would support amending the Constitution on this subject.
Now, whether we could get our Representatives to actually represent us? That's another matter altogether.
Pastorius,
Perhaps most Americans would support it, and I'd be glad if they did. Even so, that doesn't mean there wouldn't be any controversy, and unless there is no significant percentage that would oppose it, that could make it very difficult. If say forty percent of the American population would oppose the elimination or restriction of birth right citizenship, and sixty percent would support it, most would still be even favor of doing so, but there would still be a lot of controversy surrounding it. Our Representatives might choose to not involve themselves for that reason alone, in addition to any other reason they might have. Still lets assume you are correct. How can we go about convincing our representatives to support it?
can you revoke the citizenship to whomever does that?
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Anonymous,
You wrote, "can you revoke the citizenship to whomever does that?"
Does what?
to whomever goes to USA to give birth to a baby in the United States just so the child gets US citizenship. will they go back to china soon after the birth?
weird stuff!
You know, Anonymous' question is a good one.
Maybe instead of amending the Constitution, all we need to do is get a Supreme Court ruling that some kind of "good faith" must be involved on the parents part, for the child to be considered an American citizen.
I seriously doubt that will work though.
Not in the long run.
Pastorius,
Even if it did, the danger with that is that no where in the constitution, does it mention the intent of the parents or even imply that it matters. It could be argued that such a ruling would be putting something into the constitution that was not there to begin with. Hence it would be an act of judicial activism, something that should be opposed. Its not the role of the supreme court to add things to the constitution that weren't there to begin with.
Yes, I see what you mean.
You know, it's hard for me to believe the people who wrote the 14th amendment could not have had the foresight to have seen that it would be abused.
After all, this is not the first generation to have seen immigrants abuse their privileges.
I'm starting to believe the people who wrote the 14th amendment must have had ill will towards America.
Pastorius,
I see no evidence to support that claim. The fourteenth amendment was written after the civil war by Americans with the intent of giving the freed slaves the rights they had been wrongfully denied up until that point. They didn't want people to be able to take their citizenship away, and in a way it was a good thing that they put it in there about being a citizen if you are born here, but it had consequences that I don't think they foresaw. Keep in mind that at the time the thirteenth, fourteenth and fifteenth amendment were written, there was still a lot of opposition in this country to black people having citizenship rights. I doubt they had any ill will towards their own nation. They probably weren't even thinking about immigrates at the time they wrote it.
What I think we should do now, ideally would be to amend the constitution, so that birth right citizenship is still in there but with a few restrictions. For example, a child should only be allowed that privilege if both parents are here in the U.S legally and at least one of them is already a U.S citizen.
“The most valuable gift a parent can give his child these days is a different nationality,”
Not only Chinese Moms and Dads !...
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Alexander Münch,
I've heard about other people doing this before, which is another reason to support changing the constitution on this matter.
that chinese baby may retain chinese citizenship, right?
wake up, you don't even know where your president was born.
Anonymous,
The reason why I don't think we should focus on weather or not Obama was born here, is because if there was any truth to the birthers' claims we'd have much more evidence. Being born outside the U.S would disqualify him under the U.S constitution and you don't think that even some of his fellow liberals might actually benefit from that? Think about it, Hillery Clinton ran agianst him in the primaries. If she had proof that he wasn't a natural born U.S citizen don't you think she would have flaunted it, to get him out of the way? Unless you have some convincing evidence, such as a birth certificate from another country that said Obama was born there, that independent investigators can prove beyond reasonable doubt is not a forgery, or you can show that his Hawaiian certificate of live birth is a forgery, we have nothing to discuss. In other words you will need some pretty good evidence at this point, good enough to convince professional scientific skeptics, at least some of which may have supported Obama. We can pretty certian that Obama was born in the U.S. His so called Kenyan birth certificate was proven to be a forgery.
and you don't think that even some of his fellow liberals might actually benefit from that? Think about it, Hillery Clinton ran agianst him in the primaries. If she had proof that he wasn't a natural born U.S citizen don't you think she would have flaunted it, to get him out of the way?
i don't know.
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