From Raymond Ibrahim:
Recently an Egyptian Muslim posted a YouTube videotape of himself cursing Islam, its holy book, the Koran, tearing the latter to pieces and throwing it in the garbage. [...]
While this latest Koran desecration is a reminder that there are everyday Egyptians who are sick of the Talibanization of Egypt, a recent talk show on Al Hafiz channel concerning this incident is an indicator of what is in store for them.
After the video of the man tearing the Koran was played, one of three guests, a bearded and white-robed Dr. Mahmoud Sha’ban, visibly shaken by what he had just seen, said:
Someone like him must receive the punishment he deserves—and it is death. He is an apostate… It is clear from what he says that he is a Muslim, and must be killed as an apostate. As for that act itself, it is an infidel act, and he deserves to be struck by the sword in a public place—and as soon as possible; as soon as possible; as soon as possible. It must be announced and photographed and disseminated among the people, so that all the people may know that we respect our Koran and its words from Allah, and whoever insults it, receives his punishment from Allah. If people like him are left alone, they will only get bolder and bolder.
The next guest, Sheikh Abdul Mohsin, said: “I support the words of Sheikh Mahmoud [who just spoke], that this man must be killed fast, that he may be an example to others, so that all learn that we have reached a new phase in respecting Islam and the holy sanctity of the Koran and Sunna. This man has become an apostate and must suffer the penalty in front of the people.”
9 comments:
Blogging about this stuff is like writing a huge, detailed blog saying, "A spade is a spade is a spade is a spade is a spade..."
Either people get it or they refuse to open their eyes. We can't do much more than that. I have basically lost hope, that's why I (Avenging Apostate) don't really blog anymore. Still trying to muster up the desire to "suffer fools gladly" and teach them that "A spade is a spade is a spade is a spade is a spade..."
Hi Avenging Apostate, i see your point sometimes the same thought comes to my mind.
But if i manage to make one Muslim doubt about their ways then it was worthwhile all the effort.
The seed has been planted and it will grow & hopefully spread.
The one thing they fear most is truth and knowledge.
I pretty much agree with Will on this. I do this to get that one person here and there, especially Muslims.
No one has noticed that I have begun to label all my posts in such a manner as to truly offend Muslims. Many of them are designed to bring in Muslims who are searching for porn.
For instance, the labels on this post are:Allah Is Gay, death to apostates, Islam, Mohammed had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old, spread mischief in the land
Pasto,
I noticed, but didn't say anything. Too damn busy in this household!
Yeah I agree with you guys in that it matters even if one person changes their minds and gets to know the truth.
I have been talking to people here about Islam. I am actually teaching a class on Islam at my church. I teach from the Quran and the Hadiths and use the behavior of Mohammed to explain why Muslims act the way they do today.
The reaction I get from people is something along the lines of, "you're crazy. You don't know what you are talking about. You misunderstand Islam."
There was one woman who moved here from Lebanon. She was almost killed twice when she was a kid by Muslims. She spoke up and said, "all Muslims are terrorists and crazy." While I might agree with the crazy bit a little, not all Muslims are terrorists (potential terrorists, yes, but not terrorists). And that is also not what I want people to learn from this all.
Its hard to teach the truth and I guess after 8 years of dealing with blind idiots, I am a little tired of it all.
Pastorius,
I did notice your tags. They are appropriate and majority of the Muslims, it seems, is addicted to porn so it should work!
I've spoken a bit at churches as well. I have not taught a class, just one-off speaking. I have not gotten the, "all Muslims are terrorists" line. I am sure there are some people who are truly angry and irrational, but they have not voiced their opinion in that manner.
I try to be as truthful as I possibly can be.
One time a woman asked me, "How does all this effect the home life of the average Muslim family.
I told her that there are no studies that I know of of Muslim family dynamics, that the Muslim world, somewhat like the Soviet Union, is a pretty closed system and is not open to Sociological scrutiny.
She then responded by telling me what Muslim families THAT SHE KNEW PERSONALLY were like; the father in control, the sons having authority over the mother, the mother cowering in fear, the sons running amok, the daughters non-entites, etc.
I told her that this is a story I have heard often, but I could not be at all sure that this is typical. It could be typical in a fundamentalist Muslim family, but for me to say it was would be me giving my opinion, and as I said, I try to stick to facts.
That's the way I handle it.
Maybe the problem is not the quran, maybe the problem is that it is attractive to lunatics with anger management problems and simply reinforces a subconscious urge to kill everyone who does not agree with them in every detail of how to live.
The rest of humanity, some of whom are muslims know what to ignore, but keep quiet about that because they are petrified of the people running the show. Who as we see, cannot WAIT to Rx death.
EPA,
You write: Maybe the problem is not the quran, maybe the problem is that IT is attractive to lunatics with anger management problems and simply reinforces a subconscious urge to kill everyone who does not agree with them in every detail of how to live.
I respond: What is IT? What is this "it' which is attractive to such people?
Do Muslims really want to win the world of nonMuslims for Allah and Muhammed? If they Kill all the 'Infidels', who will they convert to this glorious religion?
By the way, Allah seems to be a different Being from the God of Christians. From my observation, Islam is surviving by these three acts: 1. Illiteracy, 2. Ignorance and 3. Murder. Take away these three supports, and Islam will crumble as a house of cards. One final question to Muslim Clerics: Does one become a Muslim by Birth or Conversion? Islamic Clerics cannot convince 90% of humanity. That's why they easily resort to violence and murder. If one becomes a Muslim by birth, then Muslims should impose their beliefs on their Offspring and kindred, not all humans. If by conversion, then they are creating the death of Islam by killing nonMuslims. No one will accept a religion that maims and kills with no offer of mercy.
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