Both candidates have proved that we can have a rancorous, REAL and meaningful verbal UFC style call out of each other, and that the nation NEEDS THIS. We don’t need the verbal equivalent of of tea time at the Waldorf.
We have seen the moderator become an issue ONCE AGAIN.
Why is this so? Time. We simply are trying to do too much in 90 minutes. We need to see 20-30 minutes on an issue. And not frickin’ assault weapons. And not contraception. Sorry but these problems are exceedingly minor if you don’t have a job, or are facing a drop from 35 hours to 29 1/2 hours per week of work because your employer cannot afford Obamacare and therefore is making you into a part time employee.
Also, the moderator is NOT a fact checking automaton, and not the arbiter of objective reality. Candy Crowley should have shut her trap. Then she would not have had to try to correct herself when it was too late.
Obama had some exceedingly STUPID ‘I wanna win the argument’ answers going on, and Romney just plain missed some clean kills. It comes with the format of being live, I suppose, however, he was extremely effective in rebutting Obama’s forays.
“Mr. Obama if you really meant to uncover the attack in Libya as an act of terror the next day, why did you and everyone who spoke for you continue to claim the act was a spontaneous demonstration for well over a week?”
“Mr. President, too bad you are insulted over my observation that you went off campaigning, but how much money did you raise for your campaign while we were flying Ambassador Steven’s body home, and while you should have been chairing NSC emergency meetings ensuring that all of our embassies and bases overseas, were secure?”
“Mr. President, why haven’t you defended freedom of speech and at least underlined to muslim lands why we insist on it, when explaining how sorry you are about that idiotic video.”
“Mr. President, when you said gasoline was $1.86 because we were about to crash economically from which we were saved by your actions, then certainly you can name other significant prices of necessities, such as sugar, flour and rice, which also were crashing at the moment of your inauguration, and then have doubled in price as ‘things have improved’?”
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Epa,
I want to see Obama debate YOU.
Rpmney did a good enough job. Being a candidate is not easy. If you say whatever you think, like Ross Perot, you will not get 51% of the vote. It just won't happen.
As much as I agree with Epa (and have agreed with him over the years that I have been reading his posts), I do think Pasto is right here.
I think Romney did right to not pounce on Obama on every single lie. Whether Romney did it on purpose or he just didn't think of it at the time, I think it will play toward an advantage for Romney in the long run with independents.
If Romney had attacked Obama, he would have come across as a bully, whether right or wrong. Independents are already sick of campaign ads, I don't think Romney's appearance as a bully would have helped him one bit.
Toward the beginning of the debate, I thought Romney went down the wrong road when he got too heavy on Obama over Oil-drilling permits on government land.
It was good he pressed the point, but he had to sacrifice some of his dignity, good humor, and charm to do it.
You can only do that so many times.
You have to choose your battles.
Unfortunatley, that one came right at the beginning of the debate.
After that, he had kind of shot his wad, in my opinion.
On the other hand, if in the heat of the moment, Romney had been able to peel off a line this well-constructed ...
“Mr. Obama if you really meant to uncover the attack in Libya as an act of terror the next day, why did you and everyone who spoke for you continue to claim the act was a spontaneous demonstration for well over a week?”
... it would have helped him a lot.
I would never make a good candidate for anything.
I have only one argumentative instinct ..it goes something like this... embarrass, humiliate, render hesitance in the other's speech using his own arguments.
Mrs. Epa says this limits my attractiveness at certain times.
However, I honestly think in this set of circumstances the nation finds itself in the admonition of Ernest J King is the right one. We are in trouble. Real Trouble. Civilizational, national identity trouble.
It calls for a son of a bitch.
I suppose the best candidate would find a way to have each voter form that feeling in his or her heart, and still regard him as a nice guy
Well, you worded these comebacks very well.
I could never think that clearly on my feet.
But then, I am not running for President of the USA.
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