Saturday, March 08, 2014

UPDATED --- Malaysian Airlines Loses Contact With Jet Airliner En Route To Beijing - 239 People On Board and Feared Dead - I Can't Imagine It Has Anything To Do With Muslims

It was probably the Buddhists.

UPDATE - UPDATE - UPDATE

From our favorite Anonymous commenter:


Austrian Christan Kozel has been confirmed as safe and well by authorities.

He said his passport was stolen when he visited Thailand two years ago, Austrian newspaper De Standard reports.

(id's mentioned in comments at link above)

Luigi Maraldi was/is definitely NOT on the missing flight.

He has phoned his family from Thailand to tell them he is alive and well.
Noted in a comment at FreeRepublic: last year, Boeing directed operators of its various jets to replace Honeywell Emergency Locator Transponders on their aircraft. The models involved included the 777-200. A Honeywell transponder on a 787 owned by Ethiopian Airlines caught fire on the ground in London and heavily damaged the aircraft.

One supporting article:
UK AAIB: Boeing 787 emergency locator transmitters should be disabled



comments are interesting too

39 comments:

Always On Watch said...

Shouldn't the wreckage have been found by now?

Always On Watch said...

From this source:

...

"It doesn't sound very good," retired American Airlines Capt. Jim Tilmon told CNN's "AC360." He noted that the route is mostly overland, which means that there would be plenty of antennae, radar and radios to contact the plane.

"I've been trying to come up with every scenario that I could just to explain this away, but I haven't been very successful."

He said the plane is "about as sophisticated as any commercial airplane could possibly be," with an excellent safety record.

"The lack of communications suggests to me that something most unfortunate has happened," said Mary Schiavo, former inspector general of the U.S. Department of Transportation, in an interview with CNN International....


Why no signal from the black box?

Anonymous said...

Malaysian Minister denies crash report

Still no sign of the aircraft . . . or any wreckage. Weird. Very strange.

Could hijackers disable all tracking devices and continue to fly this passenger craft silent?

With no wreckage or debris sitings in nearly 12 hours . . .either the plane blew up into tiny extremely scattered pieces which sank in the sea or the 'pilot(s)' found another way to take an alternate route to an unidentified location (hostages?) .

Given the pilot's identity suggests he is muslim...
the pilot of MH370 is Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a 53-year-old Malaysian who joined the carrier in 1981 and has 18,365 hours of flight experience.

Anonymous said...

He can deny the crash report . . .yet not one passenger has attempted to use personal cell phone or laptop to make contact either.

Anonymous said...

WSJ Asia reports on their Twitter @WSJAsia:

Vietnam Search Planes Find Twin Oil Slicks, Possibly Jet Engines

Vietnamese search aircraft may have spotted two oil slicks that could be from the jet engines of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which was a twin-engine Boeing 777 jetliner, the government said on its website.

The search pilots spotted two possible oil slicks each 10-15 kilometers in length, about 500 meters apart, some 140 kilometers south of Tho Chu island off southern Vietnam, the statement said.


Anonymous said...

WSJ live report: Delay in locating Missing Airliner is 'ODD': Expert

Anonymous said...

The eyes of the world appear to have focused on this area in the Gulf of Thailand in the search for #MH370

Anonymous said...

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: Live updates as it emerges two of the 227 passengers were using STOLEN passports

Anonymous said...

Austrian Christan Kozel has been confirmed as safe and well by authorities.

He said his passport was stolen when he visited Thailand two years ago, Austrian newspaper De Standard reports.

(id's mentioned in comments at link above)

Luigi Maraldi was/is definitely NOT on the missing flight.

He has phoned his family from Thailand to tell them he is alive and well.



Anonymous said...

Noted in a comment at FreeRepublic: last year, Boeing directed operators of its various jets to replace Honeywell Emergency Locator Transponders on their aircraft. The models involved included the 777-200. A Honeywell transponder on a 787 owned by Ethiopian Airlines caught fire on the ground in London and heavily damaged the aircraft.

One supporting article:
UK AAIB: Boeing 787 emergency locator transmitters should be disabled

posted Jul. 18, 2013

comments are interesting too

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576087/Malaysia-Airlines-says-plane-missing.html

UK Daily MAIL suggests Search called off for missing Boeing 777 as it is emerges that two people on board were using STOLEN PASSPORTS

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576087/Malaysia-Airlines-says-plane-missing.html#ixzz2vO8gVLAr
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Anonymous said...

Recall also
The 911 attacks were planned in Kuala Lumpur.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=911timeline&911timeline_projects_and_programs=911timeline_al_qaeda_malaysia_summit

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/152lndzv.asp

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NBC first to suggest terrorism involved

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/stolen-passports-prompt-terror-concerns-missing-jet-officials-say-n47861

Pastorius said...

Jeez, I don't want to stroke myself too much, but I think Infidel Bloggers Alliance was the first to suggest terrorism.

;-)

Epaminondas said...

modern airliners have sensors in the equipment which maintain constant digital communication with maintenance depots for each airline (unless they can be turned off, but why you would do this is beyond me). I am sure we are talking about sensors for engines, flight control, air pressure, a zillion things which tell the airlines what to look for when the plane lands...to keep it flying in best shape and thus max profit.

For this plane to have gone whooooosh as it did, every one of these sensors would have to go bye bye at once. Otherwise they would have had some readings giving a hint for a few minutes from cruising altitude (7 miles+).

It's certainly possible, but very difficult to imagine a set of circumstances where this could happen by what usu takes down an airliner, a series of extremely low probability events chained together.
On the other hand a single cataclysmic event ....

Pastorius said...

VERY cataclysmic.

Pastorius said...

A bomb that blew a hole in the side of the aircraft and sent it tumbling into the sea, would not destroy all the sensors.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me, or does it appear to anyone else that since the stolen passport story broke, the msm couldn't contain the link to terrorism with this flight's disappearance? It is refreshing to see the LA Times report Terrorism not ruled out in disappearance of Malaysia Airlines jet


http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-malaysia-airlines-20140308,0,3587352.story#ixzz2vPUvAqTj

Pastorius said...

It is good to see the LA Times acknowledge reality.

Pastorius said...

Now if they could just manage to put a finger on who might have committed this act of terrorism ...

Anonymous said...

Australia's Sky News: Oil slicks near area plane vanished

Oil slicks usually don't vanish in hours, do they? In a local marina, there is a persistent slick near the docks where the water constantly laps against the moorings and shoreline. The amount of oil from a downed passenger aircraft would be far in excess of the small amounts near small craft with inboard/outboard engines.

Anonymous said...

Malaysia Airlines Says Plane Had No History of Malfunction
Last Safety Inspection 10 Days Ago, Which Was Earlier Than required, It Says
Malaysia Airlines said its missing plane had its last safety inspection 10 days ago--earlier than required --and didn't have a history of malfunction.
WSJ streaming updates
what is shocking also, imo, is the number of planes flying for domestic US airlines that have their maintenance performed in malaysia.
http://mae.malaysiaairlines.co...<a href="http://mae.malaysiaairlines.com</a>








Anonymous said...

Travel by passengers with stolen identities can be prevented
Technology and a database listing all passports stolen in the world are maintained by Interpol and are freely available to governments, airlines, hotels, and anyone dealing with global travellers.
The tragedy is virtually no one, but a handful of governments are taking advantage of the technology.

Epaminondas said...

bomb blows fuselage in half=no sensors.
bomb blows door into cockpit, sensors shut down by hijackers

or, just a bad sequence of what looks like nothing terrible and POOF

Anonymous said...

Here’s the Passenger Manifest:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest.pdf

Americans listed are:

Philip wood age 51,
a 4 y/o child named Nicole Meng (Chinese parents)
a 2 y/o child named Yan Zhang (Chinese parents)

Pastorius said...

So sad.

Anonymous said...

Earlier, it was reported that the passenger manifest was leaked onto a Chinese website, with one name oddly blurred out...via. UK Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/10685436/Malaysia-crash-victims-and-tears-of-their-families.html

Anonymous said...

Uncertainty over timing
Malaysia Airlines denied reports circulating on the internet the plane had landed safely in Nanjing China.
One uncertainty about the flight involved when it disappeared from radar and how quickly the search began in the Gulf of Thailand. Malaysia Airlines said that the plane took off at 12.41 am Malaysia time, and that the plane disappeared from air traffic control radar in Subang, a suburb of Kuala Lumpur, at 2.40 am.
That timeline seemed to suggest that the plane stayed in the air for two hours — long enough to fly not only across the Gulf of Thailand but also far north across Vietnam. But Mr Lindahl of Flightradar 24 said that the last radar contact had been at 1.19am, less than 40 minutes after the flight began.
A Malaysia Airlines spokesman said on Saturday evening that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 1.30 am, but he reiterated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 2.40am.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-search-continues-as-passports-raise-terrorism-fears-20140309-hvgqm.html#ixzz2vQoA2Eqa

Anonymous said...

Pilot: I established contact with plane

'INTERFERENCE': Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370
SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, said he established contact with MH370 minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control.
The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft.
"We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.
"The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot.
"There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.
"That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection," he told the New Sunday Times.
He said those on the same frequency at the time would have heard the exchange.
This, he said, would include vessels on the waters below.
He said he thought nothing of it, as the occurrence (of losing contact) was normal, until it was established that MH370 never landed.
"If the plane was in trouble, we would have heard the pilot making the Mayday distress call. But I am sure that, like me, no one else up there heard it.
"Following the silence, a repeat request was made by the Vietnamese authorities to try establishing contact with them."

Epaminondas said...

If this is done on purpose? Who would want to provoke the Chinese and not care?
Didn't we just have a mass stabbing?

Weighing against terrorism is that if there is no claim, no debris field of horror, nothing left which instills terror .. it's not terror, certainly as intended.

Anonymous said...

Note at 2:26:00 anon comment with link to flight manifest which identified two American children listed on flight with Chinese parents. Chinese Anchor Babies

I wish none of the innocents harm by linking this. Just making a note of the fact that the parents of two children were not American yet the children carried American passports which reminded me of the recent stories exposing the anchor baby industry coming from China.

Washington Post: FOUR flew with false ID aboard Malaysia Airlines plane that vanished over South China Sea

Anonymous said...

F!! This administration is so f'd up with it's blatant Islamophilia that it likely believes jihad to be an act of god, therefore, cannot be classified as terrorism.

Continuing its traitorous tradition, from the New Duranty Times: Passport Theft Adds to Mystery of Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
Quote: "A senior American intelligence official said law enforcement and intelligence agencies were investigating the issue of the stolen passports. American authorities were scrutinizing the flight manifest closely, the official said, noting that forged travel documents are also used routinely by smugglers and illegal immigrants.
At this time, we have not identified this as an act of terrorism,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity Saturday because of the continuing inquiry. “While the stolen passports are interesting, they don’t necessarily say to us that this was a terrorism act.


Anonymous said...

Two people who traveled on the missing passenger jet, using the stolen passports of an Italian and an Austrian citizen, appear to have bought their tickets together.

The tickets were bought from China Southern Airlines in Thailand's baht currency at identical prices, according to China's official e-ticket verification system Travelsky. The ticket numbers are contiguous, which indicates the tickets were issued together.

via CNN

Anonymous said...

Malaysian authorities have been in contact with counterterrorism organizations about possible passport issues, Hussein said earlier.

He didn't specify how many potential passport issues there were, saying authorities are looking at the whole passenger manifest.

The U.S. government has been briefed on the stolen passports and reviewed the names of the passengers in question but found nothing at this point to indicate foul play, said a U.S. law enforcement official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Of the two passports in question, the Italian one had been reported stolen and was in Interpol's database, CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes said, citing sources at Interpol.

Additionally, no inquiry was made by Malaysia Airlines to determine if any passengers on the flight were traveling on stolen passports, he said. Many airlines do not check the database, he said.

same CNN report as above
*******


Reiterating earlier link:
Travel by passengers with stolen identities can be prevented . . .but apparently WASN'T

Anonymous said...

CBCNews: Malaysia Airlines missing jet: airport security breach probed

Anonymous said...

Malaysia Airlines jet may have turned back before vanishing
*****

Consider the following information regarding some of the passengers listed on the flight manifest:

Freescale Releases Its First 11 RF Power Products Suitable for U.S.-Based Defense Market Applications

About 20 top management employees from semiconductor company Freescale Semiconductor were among 38 Malaysians onboard MAS flight MH370 which went missing

Anonymous said...

Department of Civil Aviation director-general Azaruddin Abdul Rahman also confirmed that five passengers did not board the MH370 flight, and their baggage were removed from the cargo. He did not say why they did not board the plane. Straitstimes.com

Anonymous said...

TheBlaze via WSJ: Vietnam Reportedly Says Search Plane Has Found Suspected Pieces Of Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

the fragments — found floating 50 miles southwest of Tho Chu Island — are believed to be part of the inner door and part of the aircraft’s tail

Anonymous said...

via USAToday: Air traffic control received a signal from the plane about one minute before it entered Vietnamese airspace, the Vietnamese government said in a statement. Air traffic control then lost all contact, including a radar signal.

Anonymous said...

Fox News: Interpol says no country checked its database before Malaysia flight