Tuesday, September 16, 2014

The fantasy and the reality of the middle east and UNDERSTANDING

The fantasy - we can withdraw from the middle east and seal our borders and be safe, happy, watch football on sundays, BBQ, and celebrate birthdays.
That we can isolate ourselves militarily, and Ron Paul our policies into militant inoffensiveness along the lines of John Qunicy  Adams’ desire that we provide only a good example for mankind, and otherwise involve ourselves no more.

The reality:
13 years of conversation with mostly salafis over THERE have convinced me we cannot coexist ON THE SAME PLANET without a continuous discontinuous (at best) strife and war of some intensity or other.

WHY?

The people are sovereign in the USA.

We may acknowledge the moral guidance of a superior and perfect being in our moral behavior, but in the end we DEMAND that the laws which GOVERN come right out of our own heads.

The problem?

This is not just a blasphemy, it is a usurpation of that which ONLY God has already determined, HIS LAW for all time and revealed to man in the uncreated document Muhammad made public.

Muhammad and the Muslims are ordered to fight the people until fitnah, the idea most of all, that MAN RULES, is ended and we acknowledge and worship God in the manner prescribed in the uncreated document.

On this planet, it is going to be THAT FIGHT, our victory, or theirs.

Any idea that withdrawing behind walls a thousand feet high will resolve that issue is FANTASY. You will get only that delay it takes them to consolidate, invest themselves in an open secular society, and move upon us.

And THAT is HOW IT IS
We certainly do not have to, nor should we be involved an more than is MANDATORY for the safety of the people of the USA, and this CERTAINLY includes secure borders as a primary and immediate goal, but that alone will NEVER BE ENOUGH, no matter HOW we disengage ourselves.
ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, are the enemies of the people of the USA and MAY lack the capability today to harm the people HERE (no one KNOWS this to be true or not), but that capability WILL come. It MUST come because we make up our own laws out of our own heads, and are thus a great sin in the face of that they feel is a personal responsibility to wipe out.
We assert OUR secular superiority to god’s laws.
EVIL.
When THAT view of god’s requirement of them has changed, we MIGHT have a MORE peaceful planet.

Can it?

2 comments:

Pastorius said...

It's better to keep them weak over there, than to allow them to get strong and come over here.

Nicoenarg said...

Imperialism is the answer.

Take over the oil-fields and wall in the barbarians. Let them starve and kill each other until and unless they mend their ways.

Becoming Isolationist and hiding like a bunch of whiny idiots is not going to solve anything. Russia and China will happily trade with ISIS. All of them together in a decade or so will come knocking on the doors of the US, demanding everyone either convert or die.

Anyone suggesting that all problems will go away only if the US pulled out of the middle east is a royal idiot and should just STFU or educate themselves on the issue.