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Monday, September 28, 2015

No surprise on Quran/Sharia vs Constitution, Ben, FINE, but you can’t be president with these views

UPDATE at BOTTOM

Sharia Law should supersede the U.S. Constitution, said some Muslims when surveyed by Fox News this week.
“The U.S. Constitution comes from people. Sharia Law comes from Allah,” said one man responding to Fox News’ David Webb. “The Constitution governs this country. Sharia Law governs the whole world. Of course it is above.”
Webb asked members of a New York City-based Islamic cultural center whether Sharia Law was above the Constitution. Many men replied simply, “Yes.” A smaller number disagreed without further elaboration.
One answered, “No, but I think the Sharia law is made by God, by Allah. And the Constitution is made by people, so it’s not the same.”
“Sharia law is completely different than the United States Constitution,” said another man. “As a Muslim, you practice Islamic law, as a Muslim. The United States Constitution, as a citizen, I respect the Constitution, nothing to do with Sharia law. In Muslim countries, Sharia Law is allowed. Other countries? No, you have to respect the Constitution.”
Others spoke of Sharia Law protecting Muslims and their “dignity.”
This week, the Center for Security Policy released a poll reporting that of all Muslims surveyed, 51% agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Sharia.”
The Center also reported that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”
Sharia Law has become a flash-point for controversy this week, following comments made Sunday by Republican presidential candidate, Ben Carson. Carson said that he would not support a Muslim for president, and that Sharia Law was fundamentally incompatible with the Constitution.
Carson has stood by his words, and has tried to clarify them for the media.

UPDATE:
Jake Tapper now of CNN, ex of ABC, who was always PERCEIVED as toward the center PROVES his ignorance of critical issues, as he tries to prove Carson is not presidentially PC:

Ben Carson’s campaign manager literally shut down a CNN interview on Sunday as anchor Jake Tapper grilled the Republican presidential candidate on his views on Muslims.
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Asked about his recent remark that he wouldn’t “advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation,” Carson clarified his statement by saying he would “have problems with somebody who embraced all the doctrines associated with Islam.”
“If they are not willing to reject Sharia and all the portions of it that are talked about in the Quran — if they are not willing to reject that, and subject that to American values and the Constitution, then of course, I would [have problems],” Carson said.
He also declined to backtrack when CNN’s Jake Tapper asked if he could’ve made his statements on Islam any clearer.
“You seem to be signing out Muslims as individuals who automatically, as a knee-jerk, would put their religion ahead of the country,” Tapper said to Carson. “I think that offended a lot of people, including a lot of patriotic Muslims.”
Growing more frustrated, Carson suggested the “media” think his comments are more newsworthy than the American people.
“You’re an African-American. You know what it’s like for people to make false assumptions about you,” Tapper said. “And you seem to be doing the same thing with Muslims. … You’re assuming that Muslim Americans put their religion ahead of the country.”
“I’m assuming that if you accept all the tenets of Islam that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States,” Carson shot back.
Immediately after Carson’s answer, a voice of Carson’s campaign manager could be heard off camera stating, “This interview is over.”

I don't know WHY  the manager shut this down.
The truth is so dangerous?
The truth is so unpopular?
The TRUTH cannot win?
The TRUTH cannot be ALLOWED to win?
The TRUTH is radical?

If you believe the Quran is perfect and immutable, you CANNOT allow the first amendment of the Constitution to stand if you are in charge.

Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth , (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”  9:29

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I have no issue with Muslims who are here and believe this, and render unto caeser, etc, while wishing the USA could accept what is written, and accept that it just cannot be that way.

But there is a fundamental problem, OBVIOUSLY, in those people serving the govt and the people (who you will have been ordered to fight until they accept Allah, and pay the tax and feel subdued).

Now perhaps there are those who like politicians that believe abortion is murder, will never the less obey the law, and SCOTUS.

Let them SAY SO.

If you are born into Islam and you believe the PEOPLE are sovereign, congrats and welcome. You're one of us in  EVERY qualification (and an apostate to many muslims).

This is the obvious divide.

Either the people are sovereign in the USA or they are not.

This is the test.
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3 Comments:

Blogger Always On Watch said...

I, too, am puzzled as to why Carson's manager terminated the interview.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

Monday, September 28, 2015 5:12:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

My son in law agrees w Carson but says we can't be talking like this or the independednt wont vote with us.

I don't care anymore.
Thatkind of campaign has gotten us nowhere, or actually to this point.

We need plain spoken debate on a number of subject, and if nothing else we owe Trump, Carson, Fiorina, and Bernie for that, BIG TIME

Monday, September 28, 2015 5:43:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I agree with you about that, Epa.

Trump and Sanders are the mirror image of one another - not that they are opposite on the issues, but that they are perceived as opposites, but they both are the result of the same cultural forces

Monday, September 28, 2015 7:32:00 pm  

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