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Tuesday, July 19, 2016

If you cannot be color blind, WHAT ARE YOU?


If you think ‘all lives matter’ is a rejection of some sort, YOU ARE BIASED to say the least.
Anyone who saw Malik Shabazz last night understands the problem

Perceptions are so far apart facts cannot dent the realities and cannot even be agreed to exist

But of course, Shabazz probably never heard of Officer Mearkle or her shooting of Kassick. Or that after a year of TRYING WaPo could find no evidence that the 36 black men killed in 965 police shootings in 2015 was color related. Or that Roland Fryer of the Harvard Dep’t of Economics could not find any similar evidence in a very thorough study (which does not look at the race of specific police officers), which this American who happens to be black called the most surprising result in his career (he did find black Americans were more likely to be shoved, handcuffed, kicked etc. at the point of arrest or stop, but of course FBI data show HALF of all murder arrests are of black Americans who represent 12.61% of the population)

This should be watched in full.

The Stop and Frisk program in NY (and large cities make up the bulk of the Harvard study) is a perfect icon for discussion of this total divergence of perception, and Fryer points this out.
The study says:
The results obtained using these data are informative and, in some cases, startling. Using data on NYC’s Stop and Frisk program, we demonstrate that on non-lethal uses of force – putting hands on civilians (which includes slapping or grabbing) or pushing individuals into a wall or onto the ground, there are large racial differences. In the raw data, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to have an interaction with police which involves any use of force
The Associated Press study of the NYPD makeup says this:
Whites make up 33 percent of New York City’s population and 54 percent of the NYPD.
Blacks represent 23 percent of the city’s population and 16 percent of the NYPD.
Hispanics make up 28 percent of the city’s population and 24 percent of the NYPD.
Asians represent 13 percent of the population and 4 percent of the NYPD.
Are white officers primarily, totally or only in a minor manner responsible for rougher treatment? UNKNOWN

Study concludes:
In stark contrast to non-lethal uses of force, we find no racial differences in officer-involved shootings on either the extensive or intensive margins.
On non-lethal uses of force, there are racial differences – sometimes quite large – in police use of force, even after accounting for a large set of controls designed to account for important contextual and behavioral factors at the time of the police-civilian interaction. Interestingly, as use of force increases from putting hands on a civilian to striking them with a baton, the overall probability of such an incident occurring decreases dramatically but the racial difference remains roughly constant. Even when officers report civilians have been compliant and no arrest was made, blacks are 21.3 (0.04) percent more likely to endure some form of force. Yet, on the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we are unable to detect any racial differences in either the raw data or when accounting for controls. We argue that these facts are most consistent with a model of taste-based discrimination in which police officers face discretely higher costs for officer-involved shootings relative to non-lethal uses of force. 
So, if you are black, and live in a big city, the odds are a police contact will one in five times result in aggressive or ILLEGAL(?) treatment by police, and if NYC is an example, 0.213*0.54(proportion of white cops)=11% of the time a cop stops you he or she will be white and mistreat you. ANd if you are stopped by a ‘minority officer’ the odds are the same.

But if there is a murder being investigated the cops, you can be SURE, know half of all murder arrests are black.

You are facing an INFINITESIMAL chance of being shot by a cop, and if you are, it’s not due to race.

Final conclusions by Harvard:
As police departments across America consider models of community policing such as the Boston Ten Point Coalition, body worn cameras, or training designed to purge officers of implicit bias, our results point to another simple policy experiment: increase the expected price of excessive force 35 on lower level uses of force. To date, very few police departments across the country either collect data on lower level uses of force or explicitly punish officers for misuse of these tactics. The appealing feature of this type of policy experiment is that it does not require officers to change their behavior in extremely high-stakes environments. Many arguments about police reform fall victim to the “my life versus theirs, us versus them” mantra. Holding officers accountable for the misuse of hands or pushing individuals to the ground is not likely a life or death situation and, as such, may be more amenable to policy change.
But rather than discuss this or admit to his TRUE UNARGUABLE racism, and initiate a real, and difficult discussion, Shabazz had his story and was sticking to it.

That’s the way it is on the first day of this convention.

We can’t talk, and it seems to me to be because the BLM story line is ENGRAVED into the soul, as true in 12.61%+ of the population and their political think alikes, and it is held as true as the evil that resulted in Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka.


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It is not.

Black Lives Matter does not have JUSTICE on their side because they do not have the TRUTH on their side. Police are not just SHOOTING black men and women at stops. NOT


Black Lives Matter has incited to violence and violence has resulted.

It’s not that this is unacceptable.

It is INTOLERABLE.

Just as it was for Aryan Nation, which executed the same process

Just as it was for the KKK, which executed the same process

It is just as intolerable when the President tries to find UNDERSTANDING for choosing PERCEPTION over FACT and it creates a ‘space’ for understanding attack on society.
And we can’t even TALK ABOUT THIS?

That’s how the argument gets settled by the National Guard in the streets of rioting cities.
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12 Comments:

Blogger Always On Watch said...

The situation is hopeless as far as I'm concerned.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:18:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AOW, I agree. Listening to this guy, and the tape by the Baton Rouge assassin, it's clear at least part of the African American population do not feel part of America. Are there any numbers as to what percentage of the Black population they represent? We cannot say it's necessarily according to education, because this guy is a lawyer, as well as the many who are interviewed on TV defending BLM and arguing in favor of compensation for past grievances, etc. We have Dr. Carson, Sheriff Clarke and many others, but do we have any idea how the majority of the Black citizenship think, feel and believe?

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:07:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

all of my kids who are young adults say the MAJORITY, the vast majority agree with the positions of BLM

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:36:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

... we have moved into a Tribal Era.

Absolutely disgusting.

Given a knowledge of history, one has to be a fuckin' tard to believe in Tribalism.

So, what am I to conclude.

Sorry, but your kid's friends are fucking tards, in a nation full of tards.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:48:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

By the way, my kids and their friends are fucking tards too.

My wife and I joke that our children are Pod People, and one day they will turn us in for Treason against Political Correctness.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:49:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have 50% tards (two youngest), the two elder ones are to the right of Reagan ... I'm Independent, free thinker who does chew glass, and see reality as it is.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:13:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

The kids are 1 never trump never hillary, one trump, and one uncommitted.. respectively>1 UTTER security mom, 1 cynical Santelli tea party, and 1 who would like to be progressive but sees failure. They grew up in what turned out to be a very diverse town (Manch NH) including massive influx of bosnians at one point.

The conservative kid is the one whose black acquaintances to a man believe cops are doing black people, and mistreating them. The second may be true, but for reasons which are related to crime rates. The problem is we can't even have a fucking discussion.

Even in 66-68 I could talk w people in the south (except for the white sheet crowd) about how their views were just plain wrong and the test of civil rights would prove it vs. ...they're not ready or they're not capable and we could go back and forth ...or I could talk in 68 plus with people who thought Vietnam was the right thing.

What's going on now is OTHER FUCKING WORLDLY.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:10:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Well, as I wrote in this post, I believe black people are commonly mistreated. And I think it's very important to acknowledge that.

It's also very important to discuss crime rates.

It's also very important to not tolerate racism no matter which direction it is flying, or who it is flying from.

Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:49:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking back, when I think I considered MLK to be a radical ... makes me realize how far I've moved in my views. The man was 100% right; his position was the one and only this country should have followed: be color blind, and judge people by their character. I'm there now, but it was not easy at the time, when after his assassination Washington was burning, and I felt mistreated by the color of my skin. As a 21 year old college graduate just arrived in town, and having never seen black people before, it was difficult for me to understand when a waitress practically through the plates in front of me at the diners, having done nothing wrong to her, other than politely order my food in the most carefully enounciated English ... She hated me for just being white. It was quite a sobering experience. I must admit I rarely understood what they were telling or asking me. It surely didn't sound like any of the British English I had learned at school ... Even now, it's sometimes hard for me to understand African Americans, and to my children's annoyance, I have no problem asking them for translation (when available.) LOL

Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:53:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

That's a funny story. Thanks for sharing.

I get it. African-Americans can be hard to understand, though I am used to their way of speaking and I do not have trouble with it.

I do, however, have a lot of trouble understanding English people even though my parents are English and live in England.

LOL

By the way, I remember being treated like shit by Black people when I was a kid. Not all black people, just some. So I know what you're talking about.

Some of us have had to pay for the oppression they have gotten at the hands of someone else.

And, of course, they didn't deserve what they got either.

Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:16:00 am  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Epa,
all of my kids who are young adults say the MAJORITY, the vast majority agree with the positions of BLM

I see this among my homeschoolers, too. Majority white with a significant portion of Asian (Chinese, Korean). Interestingly, the Chinese and the Korean families don't perceive that blacks are treated unfairly in America.

Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:32:00 am  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Pasto,
Some of us have had to pay for the oppression they have gotten at the hands of someone else.

Unacceptable! It is the road to a never-ending race war.

That kind of thinking has to stop -- or at least acting on that kind of thinking has to stop.

Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:33:00 am  

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