Friday, November 09, 2007

The BNP Is Not A Racist Party?


Exhibit C: Sikh Refugee - Victim of Persecution in Pakistan - Warns of Islamic Threat.

That looks good. I am happy when there is less strife in the world. However, I will not put blinders on to be more happy. The truth is, for every intelligent BNP leader, there seems to be quite a few lower-rung BNP members who believe that it is important that we preserve a "white Britain."

In other words, they divide the world along racial lines, instead of ideological lines. If this is the case then a citizen of the UK who happens to be Indian, for instance, is not deemed as desirable a partner for marriage and having children. It is, theoretically, preferable, according to the BNP, that Indians who are British citizens would not have very many children, especially since white British citizens aren't quite living up to snuff in the baby-making department.

Hey, maybe someone can make me feel comfortable with the BNP. Like I said, I'd rather there be less strife in the world.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Exhibit C: BNP Sikh refugee from persecution in Pakistan warns of Islamic threat.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5313967073906592014

Pastorius said...

Thanks Najistani. And, thank you for all your contributions.

Anonymous said...

Exhibit D BNP support for Israel:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/columnists/brimstone2.php?leeId=80

WC said...

Europe has an assimilation problem that the USA does not. You can come to the USA and no matter what your ethic group (except if you see the world as hyphens like the Left) you are automatically considered an American.

Not so in Europe. Even if you've been in a European country for generations, you are still not a Frenchman, German, Swede, etc. etc. Maybe you can get away with calling yourself British because of it's colonial history but that's pushing it.

The answer of course to this problem is what the EU wants to do. Call themselves Europeans and subjugate the countries of Europe's cultural identity and that's not headed anywhere good.

Pastorius said...

Hey Najistani,
As you probably have seen, we have yet another contributor here at IBA (her name is Kedja) who is pretty damned critical of Europe and its ethnocentrism.

Thing is, I don't want this blog to be all one-sided, so if you want to contribute here, let me know.

authoress said...

najistani, you posted a comment on my article too, saying "here are some exhibits to DEMONSTRATE the BNP is not fascist" That is simply an error of logic:

Lack of evidence does not mean evidence of lack, if you get my point. I don't care how many such exhibits you show me, if I find just one instance that goes against what you claim (and we have found plenty), that proves you wrong.


I don't need to look any further than the name: British Nationalist Party.

It's all about nationality, ethnic purity, white Egnland. Where's the ideology in that?

I think the BNP is sick, and just a proof of how low Europe's morals are, that fascist sects are the best they can muster.

I completely agree with WC and my post resonates his position.

We (the anti jihadi movement) must be very careful to not associate ourselves with these dangerous and degenerate sects just for the sake of expediency, because the losses to our credibility will be irrecoverable.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I am disappointed at how many seemingly rational anti-jihadis are willfully suspending their critical judgment.

We should not be so desperate as to join forces with such scum. The enemy of our enemy is not our friend.

Epaminondas said...

Correction, Disraeli was not a jew. UNless you are using the kind of definition some folks in the 1930's came up with.
Disraeli went OUT OF HIS WAY to demonstrate his christianity.

I also DO NOT BITE on the BNP. Just as I don't bite that David Duke respects his current allies the khomeinist and salafi freaks.

Europe's history since the Council of Nicaea is CONSONANT on the jews.
The Holocaust was simply a marriage of an industrial state with the accepted tribal superstitions of 2000 years, and human weakness, nothing more. Just ONE incident in a long train.

BNP is racist, and the day an islamist threat is reduced will demonstrate it, just as David Duke would on the day the last jew on earth breathed HIS life out, drag the first convienient 'mud person' behind his 79 Ford F150 - PROUDLY. Anyone who thinks differently has ignored all of HISTORY

WATCHER71 said...

Epa,
hear! hear!

BFB said...

You people are sick! Because some people have a national/racial identity you assume you are somehow superior for having none. How does that work?

Where is is carved in stone that to be (supposedly) anti-racist makes you any better than those of us who acknowledge race as an important fact of life?

Why do you people automatically claim the moral high ground when it comes to race? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Anyone who believes 'we are all the same' regardless of race has a larger arse than brain...!

Blacks are a race of under achievers....thay have contributed NOTHING to the sum total of human knowledge.

That is a fact, live with it!

Epaminondas said...

Thank you BFB..in 1965-67 I worked in the south here, in voter registration.

Your beatific comment .."Where is is carved in stone that to be (supposedly) anti-racist makes you any better than those of us who acknowledge race as an important fact of life?" is almost word for word what I heard from someone whose voice I later recognized from under a SHEET..you know, the kind with a pointy top?

Nothing is more sublime in content and meaning than the kind of post you have created from both your mind and the inner compulsion which you mistake for thought.

Every once in a while it is good to remember what we are by having someone outline what we are not.

"Blacks are a race of under achievers....thay have contributed NOTHING to the sum total of human knowledge."

Thurgood Marshall achieved more in a day to improve the USA, and this world than your entire ignorant, bigoted organization could possibly even IMAGINE in the length of ALL of British History.

Nothing could more clearly indicate the heritage of SICKNESS in Europe which has been expressed from pre-medieval times thru today more than your perfect 'contribution' to the comment forum here.

Just off the top of my head:
Shirley Chisholm
Barbara Jordan
Clarence Thomas
Condy
Carl Stokes
Andrew Young
Edward Brooke
Benjamin Banneker
Colin Powell
GW Carver
Daniel Hale Williams
Charles Drew
ML King
Ralph Bunche
Leontyne Price
Alex Haley
Ralph Ellison
Garrett Morgan
Elijah McCoy ( a personal fave)
WEB DuBois
Mat Henson
ROSA PARKS
Medgar Evers

And those are JUST THE AMERICANS in 45 seconds of thinking, you ignorant little dweeb

Go find your sheet and go BACK... BACK TO THE PLANTATION ...

WATCHER71 said...

Queen Charlotte Sophia

Consort of George III and Queen Victoria's grandmother

Queen Charlotte, wife of the English King George III (1738-1820), was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a black branch of the Portuguese Royal House. The riddle of Queen Charlotte's African ancestry was solved as a result of an earlier investigation into the black magi featured in 15th century Flemish paintings. Two art historians had suggested that the black magiC must have been portraits of actual contemporary people (since the artist, without seeing them, would not have been aware of the subtleties in colouring and facial bone structure of quadroons or octoroons which these figures invariably represented) Enough evidence was accumulated to propose that the models for the black magi were, in all probability, members of the Portuguese de Sousa family.

Six different lines can be traced from English Queen Charlotte back to Margarita de Castro y Sousa, in a gene pool which because of royal inbreeding was already minuscule, thus explaining the Queen's unmistakable African appearance.

The Negroid characteristics of the Queen's portraits certainly had political significance since artists of that period were expected to play down, soften or even obliterate "undesirable" features in a subject's face. Sir Allan Ramsay was the artist responsible for the majority of the paintings of the Queen and his representations of her were the most decidedly African of all her portraits. Ramsey was an anti-slavery intellectual of his day. He also married the niece of Lord Mansfield, the English judge whose 1772 decision was the first in a series of rulings that finally ended slavery in the British Empire. It should be noted too that by the time Sir Ramsay was commissioned to do his first portrait of the Queen, he was already, by marriage, uncle to Dido Elizabeth Lindsay.

Thus, from just a cursory look at the social awareness and political activism at that level of English society, it would be surprising if the Queen's Negroid physiognomy was of no significance to the Abolitionist movement.

Perhaps the most literary of these allusions to her African appearance, however, can be found in the poem penned to her on the occasion of her wedding to George III and the Coronation celebration that immediately followed.

Descended from the warlike Vandal race, she still preserves that title in her face. Tho' shone their triumphs o'er Numidia's plain, And Alusian fields their name retain; they but subdued the southern world with arms, She conquers still with her triumphant charms, O! born for rule, - to whose victorious brow The greatest monarch of the north must bow!

WATCHER71 said...

Professor Stuart Hall


Leading black academic and broadcaster

Stuart Hall was born in Kingston, Jamaica and was educated in Jamaica and at Merton College, Oxford (Rhodes Scholar). He came to prominence at the Centre for Cultural Studies at Birmingham University and thereafter as Professor of Sociology at the Open University from 1979. He is currently emeritus at The Open University and Visiting Professor, Goldsmith College, Milton Keynes, he was Research Fellow and then Director of the Centre for Cultural Studies, University of Birmingham. Research interests in cultural theory and cultural studies, race, ethnicity and cultural identity.
Publications include: Resistance through Rituals, The Popular Arts, Policing the Crisis, Culture, Media, Language, New Times, Critical Dialogues in Cultural Studies, Questions of Cultural Identity, Representation and Visual Culture: A Reader

WATCHER71 said...

Lord David Pitt

Medic, political pioneer and labour peer for Hamstead

The late Lord David Pitt of Hampstead was the longest serving black Parliamentarian, having been granted a life peerage in 1975. He spent his life speaking out for the underrepresented black community in Great Britain.

Born on the island of Grenada in the West Indies, David Pitt attended Grenada Boys' Secondary school and was raised a devout Roman Catholic. In 1932 he won Grenada's only overseas scholarship to attend the prestigious medical school at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. After graduating with honours, he returned to the West Indies in 1938 and practiced medicine in St. Vincent and Trinidad. There he met and married Dorothy Alleyne; they had three children.

In 1943 Pitt helped found the West Indian National Party and served as its president until 1947. This party was considered radical in its day because it advocated independence for Trinidad within a West Indian federation. He won election to the borough council in San Fernando, Trinidad, where he also served as deputy mayor. In order to lobby the British government for independence, he travelled to Great Britain in 1947. His efforts were unsuccessful, and he grew disillusioned with West Indian politics. He decided to settle in the London district of Euston, where he established a medical practice that he ran for more than 30 years.

In the 1950s, Pitt was one of the few blacks active in defending the growing black population of Great Britain against discrimination and prejudice. In the 1960s and 1970s, he organized to help immigrants and improve race relations. Pitt became the first and only chair of the Campaign Against Racial Discrimination (CARD), an association founded with the encouragement of Martin Luther King Jr. Pitt believed in fighting racism within the existing power structure. In 1959 Pitt sought to represent London's wealthy Hampstead district in Parliament, becoming the first West Indian black to seek a seat in Parliament. After a campaign plagued by racist insinuations, Pitt lost the election.

In 1961, however, Pitt won election representing the ethnically mixed, working-class Hackney district in London's city government, the London County Council (LCC). In 1964 this body was absorbed by the Greater London Council (GLC). He served as deputy chair of the GLC from 1969 to 1970 and in 1974 became the first black chair, a post he held until 1975. Pitt paved the way for the multiracial politics for which the GLC became known.

In 1970 Pitt ran for Parliament again, this time as a candidate in London's Clapham district, a secure Labour seat that many believed he would win. He lost by an unusually large margin; race undoubtedly played a large role in his defeat. He was bitterly disappointed, and did not attempt to run for Parliament again.

In 1975 Prime Minister Harold Wilson appointed Pitt to the House of Lords as Lord Pitt of Hampstead. According to Pitt himself, however, his most valued honour was his election as president of the British Medical Association from 1985 to 1986, a position few general practitioners achieve. After his death, many lamented that Pitt "should have been the first Labour Member of Parliament."

WATCHER71 said...

Mary Seacole

Crimean war veteran nurse and original lady of the lamp

Mary Seacole's reputation after the Crimean War (1853-1856) rivalled Florence Nightingale's. Unlike Nightingale, Seacole also had the challenge to have her skills put to proper use in spite of her being black. A born healer and a woman of driving energy, she overcame official indifference and prejudice. She got herself out to the war by her own efforts and at her own expense; risked her life to bring comfort to the wounded and dying soldiers; and became the first black woman to make her mark on British public life. But while Florence Nightingale has gone down in history and become a legend, Mary Seacole was relegated to obscurity until recently.

Mary Seacole was born in Kingston, Jamaica in 1805. Her father was a Scottish soldier, and her mother was a practitioner of traditional Jamaican medicine and had a boarding house where she cared for invalid soldiers and their wives. Mary learned about medicine from her mother, soon gaining her own reputation as a 'skilful nurse and doctress'.

Mary travelled widely - there were two trips to Britain, and in 1851, she joined her brother Edward in Panama, where she opened a hotel. Soon she had saved her first cholera patient, and gained extensive knowledge of the pathology of this disease - which she herself contracted and recovered from. She was widely praised for her work in treating cholera, and returned to Jamaica in 1853, where there was a yellow fever epidemic. The medical authorities came to her to provide nurses to care for the sick soldiers. She travelled again to London, where she heard about the Crimean war and how the nursing system there had collapsed. She mad applications to the War Office, the army medical department, and the secretary of war to be allowed to go to the Crimea and tend to the sick and wounded. She pointed out that she had extensive experience, excellent references and knew many of the soldiers and regiments, having nursed them while they were stationed in Jamaica.

But she was turned away by everybody, including one of Florence Nightingale's assistants. Was it possible, she asked herself, 'that American prejudices against colour had taken root here? Did these ladies shrink from accepting my aid because my blood flowed beneath a somewhat duskier skin than theirs?' in her disappointment, Mary cried in the street.

A distant relative of hers, called Day, was going to Balaclava on business, and they agreed to launch a firm called Seacole and Day, which would be a general store and hotel near the British camp in the Crimea. So, at the age of 50, with her large stock of medicines, Mary went to the battle zone as a sutler - a person who follows the army and sells provisions to the troops. The moment she arrived in Balaclava there were sick and wounded to attend to. She opened her British Hotel in the summer of 1855, near the besieged city of Sevastopol. Soon the entire British army knew of 'Mother Seacole's'. The soldiers were her sons and she was their mother.

Though some of the army doctors, despite her saving them a lot of work, regarded her as a 'quack', others were less bigoted. The assistant surgeon of the 90th Light Infantry watched with admiration as she, numb with cold would administer to the soldiers, giving them tea and food and words of comfort. She was often on the front line and frequently under fire.

It was W.H. Russell, the first modern war correspondent, who made Mary Seacole famous. He described her as 'a warm and successful physician, who doctors and cures all manner of men with extraordinary success. She is always in attendance near the battle field to aid the wounded, and has earned many a poor fellow's blessings'.

She was, as she had promised herself, the first woman to enter Sevastopol when it fell. But the end of the war left Seacole and Day with expensive and unsaleable stores on their hands. They went bankrupt, and Mary returned to England a financially ruined woman. The Times demanded how could anyone forget the amazing things that Mary had done, and praise only Florence Nightingale?

Lord Rokeby and Lord Paget, both Crimean commanders organised a benefit festival at the Royal Surrey Gardens in Kennington to raise money for Mary. There were over 1,000 performers, and her name was 'shouted by a thousand voices'. In 1857, Mary published her autobiography, an outstandingly vivid piece of writing called The Wonderful Adventures of Mrs Seacole in many lands which was prefaced by WH Russell: 'I trust that England will not forget one who nursed her sick, who sought out her wounded to aid and succour them, and who performed the last offices for some of her illustrious dead'.

England, of course did forget Mary Seacole. She was awarded a Crimean medal, and a bust was made of her by Prince Victor of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, sculptor and nephew of Queen Victoria. The last 25 years of her life, however, were spent in obscurity. When she died on 14th May 1881.

WATCHER71 said...

Septimus Severus

York based 3rd century Black Roman emperor

Septimus Severus was born at Leptus Magna in AD 146. He belonged to a class of Romanised Africans and received a good education in his native province.

He first adopted an official career and became a civil magistrate, later he became a military commander, and this took him to Rome. He proved to be an able and popular military leader, and after the murder of Marcus Aurelius' son Commodes, Septimus, supported by the provincial legions, made good his claim to the imperial throne of Rome in AD193. He quickly defeated and killed Rome governor Clodius Albinus in a great battle in Lyon in France, and became emperor of Rome.

He rebuilt and restored Hadrian's Wall and gave Britain a century of peace; throughout his life he never lost his taste for African cooking. When he first entered Britannia, he was welcomed and hailed as the deliverer from the Gauls and Germans who continually pillaged and ravaged the island.

He quickly drove the aliens back across the English Channel, and gave Britannia semi-autonomous home rule status. In 208 AD, he supervised, refurbished, repaired and upgraded the mechanical defence system of Hadrian's Wall. In 211 AD, Septimus Severus died in York, of pneumonia at the age of 64.

WATCHER71 said...

Queen Phillipa

England's first black queen, mother of the black prince

Philippa was the daughter of William of Hainault, a lord in part of what is now Belgium. When she was nine the King of England, Edward II, decided that he would marry his son, the future Edward III, to her, and sent one of his bishops, a Bishop Stapeldon, to look at her. He described her thus:

"The lady whom we saw has not uncomely hair, betwixt blue-black and brown. Her head is cleaned shaped; her forehead high and broad, and standing somewhat forward. Her face narrows between the eyes, and the lower part of her face is still more narrow and slender than the forehead. Her eyes are blackish brown and deep. Her nose is fairly smooth and even, save that is somewhat broad at the tip and flattened, yet it is no snub nose. Her nostrils are also broad, her mouth fairly wide. Her lips somewhat full and especially the lower lip…all her limbs are well set and unmaimed, and nought is amiss so far as a man may see. Moreover, she is brown of skin all over, and much like her father, and in all things she is pleasant enough, as it seems to us."

Four years later Prince Edward went to visit his bride-to-be and her family, and fell in live with her. She was betrothed to him and in 1327, when she was only 14, she arrived in England. The next year, when she was 15, they married and were crowned King and Queen in 1330 when she was heavily pregnant with her first child and only 17.

This first child was called Edward, like his father, but is better known as the Black Prince. Many say that he was called this because of the colour of his armour, but there are records that show that he was called 'black' when he was very small. The French called him 'Le Noir'.

Philippa was a remarkable woman. She was very wise and was known and loved by the English for her kindliness and restraint. She would travel with her husband on his campaigns and take her children as well. When the King was abroad she ruled in his absence. Queen's College in Oxford University was founded under her direction by her chaplain, Robert de Eglesfield in 1341 when she was 28. She brought many artists and scholars from Hainault who contributed to English culture.

When she died, Edward never really recovered, and she was much mourned by him and the country. King Edward had a beautiful sculpture made for her tomb which you can see today at Westminster Abbey.


Sourced from the Black Cultural Archives

WATCHER71 said...

Ignatius Sancho

Writer Musician and Businessman

The first African prose writer whose work was published in England - his Letters appeared in 1782, two years after his death, and was an immediate best-seller - was born in 1729 on a slave ship in the mid-Atlantic. At Cartagena, on the coast of Columbia, he was christened Ignatius. His mother died soon afterwards, and his father killed himself rather than exist as a slave. When Ignatius was about two, his owner brought him to England and gave him to three maiden sisters who lived in Greenwich. These ladies called him Sancho because they thought he looked like Don Quixote's squire. They did not believe in the education of slaves; nonetheless, Ignatius taught himself to read and write.

The Duke of Montagu, who lived in nearby Blackheath, liked the young man's acquisitive nature and bought him books, and tried to persuade the sisters to educate him, but they would not, So Ignatius ran away, and stayed with the Montagus. The duchess engaged him as a butler, and he was able to indulge in his passion for reading and subsequently wrote poetry, two stage plays and a Theory of Music dedicated to the Princess Royal. He was also a composer, with three collections of songs, minuets, and other pieces for violin, mandolin, flute and harpsichord all published anonymously. He loved the theatre and would regularly go to Drury Lane to see the great actor Garrick, who later became a friend
Sancho was embraced by London's literary and artistic set.

Gainsborough painted his portrait in 1768. He also became friends with the historical painter John Hamilton Mortimer, and the writers Samuel Johnson and Laurence Sterne. Sancho left the service of the Montagus in 1773, and with a legacy left to him by the Duchess of Montagu, he opened a grocery shop in Charles Street, Westminster with his wife Anne. He died in 1780, and two years later his Letters were published, proving that 'an untutored African may possess abilities equal to a European'. His work attracted over 1,200 subscribers. 'Let it no longer be said', wrote one reviewer, 'by half informed philosophers, and superficial investigators of human nature, that Negers, as they are vulgarly called, are inferior to any white nation in mental abilities'.

Pastorius said...

Watcher 71,

BFB and his friends are all smarter than every single one of those people you named.

;-)

magnus said...

Ouch!!! How can you here describe National Socialistic BNP as non-racist after "debunk" Vlaams Belang and Sverigedemokraterna on information from a far/extreme(?) left think tank, Expo, by Charles naively presented as fact?!

Sverigedemokraterna descrives BNP -- rightly I think -- as neo-Nazis. All other with a minor knowledge in European politics does too.

You are naive and obviously very ignorant, when you in another post called Le Pen -- who met the not very nice former(?) white supremacist Dewinter -- a neo-Nazi. Le Pen is far right and at worst some very soft fascist... The Social Democrats in France -- especially Mitterand -- has, as everyone with a minor of knowledge knows, a much discussed *real* Nazi connection. But Le Pen? Non... don't think so!

I have written a long text I will maybe send as a comment later.

Bye, and keep doing ...your best. ;-)

(Very ignorant indeed...)

magnus said...

More on Israel from BNP, who's here make a tremendeous effort to totally change the anti-Jewish attitude in an article with the phrase "some Jews living in the UK are claiming that there is "no platform for Nazis" in its title:

"especially in America, the Zionist lobby is massively powerful and influential....But also in Britain, if you look at the funding and influence in the Labour Party - again, there's a disproportionate number of Jews involved in that. But that is not to say that either a Jewish conspiracy or that Jews are involved or to blame.""

You might be right Pastorious... :P

magnus said...

The link...

www.bnp.org.uk/articles/griffin_israelmedia.htm

magnus said...

Patorious: BFB are very well welcommed in BNP, but never ever welcomed in Sverigedemokraterna.

If you only knew....

magnus said...

Patorious. Why didn't you search yourself on the BNP site? There you have only anti-Israeli "Zionist Lobby"-stuff if you search on Israel.

BNP is Nazi, which any simple research reveals... Please, give some indformation about this too in the blog post...

Pastorius said...

I'm sorry. Help me out, please. Magnus, I am having trouble understanding what you are trying to say, and what you are trying to ask of me.

I recognize that you are being sarcastic to some extent, but I am not getting your point.

Please explain your meaning.

WATCHER71 said...

I have family in Gothenburg (not sure of spelling!) and have spent alittle time there. I even considerd moving there. Sweden is indeed a beautiful beautiful country. If it had a tropical south with a Scandinavian North I would define it as paradise!LOL! My family always tell me how Muslims in Malmo have exploited Swedish good will and have made Swedes begin to turn to less welcoming political groups. Certainly Magnus seems to have the BNP bang to rights! Magnus, if a non white Brit were to move to Sweden would I get lynched!? All the best mate!

Anonymous said...

This page of posts is a GOOD example of why the Islamists are able to convert, pervert and destroy all other cultures/nations. This childish bickering is not how it works. A nation needs to pull together REGARDLESS of other problems. There is one common factor here THE LIES AND DECEIT of muslims and how they stick together, even when they know the person they are defending is a hypocrite, murderer or a gutless thug. As long as it is aimed at all other beliefs and cultures, they will support them.
Take note.... THE ONLY DAMN UNDER-ACHIEVERS (NON-ACHIEVERS) ARE THE BLOODY ARABS. Their only contribution to the world has been that dirty shite called oil and even that had to be discovered by... well, we all know who!!!
They buy the world with their dirty money and that is how the can create so much influence on the greed that has over-run our countries.
Next would be the Pakistanis who for years have been flooding in (mostly illegaly) and working at creating no-go areas for the indigenous population, along with the crime against the people of this country (unreported by the police to stop people taking to the streets).
They are all laughing because they know that the people of this country are (in general) morons who just sit back and wait for somebody else to deal with it (once theay have finally got it into their thick heads that all that our fathers/grandfathers fought/died for is being destroyed.
I won't make this any longer as it would be pointless so I suggest you read this again and start to think after all, I wrote it in simple words for all!!!!!!