David Duke's defenders and Vlaams Belangs defenders...just one tiny difference

The jewish people.

But according to Duke, this week, just the extreme jews. (He insisted that his words only target "Jewish extremists")
Any buyers?
I thought not.

However, according to some, jewish people are not exactly running out to support (that's double sourced below) Vlaams Belang and Mr DeWinter
October 2006:

"Orthodox Jewish residents packing the streets of Antwerp's diamond-trading quarter scorned the idea that Vlaams Belang would win up to a third of their community's votes, as party mayor candidate Filip Dewinter said last week.

Wearing Orthodox black suits and Homburg hats, the men were carrying palm fronds in honor of the feast of Sukkot, celebrated this weekend. That festival meant it was forbidden for Jews to cast their votes, Jeremy Sulzbacher said, unless they had organized a proxy vote. "Vlaams Belang doesn't convince Jewish people," he said."

"Once they've finished with the Muslims and the North Africans, who will they start on next? They'll start on us, the Jews."

So last night I was re-listening to the marvelous debate.
Resolved - we should not be reticent to assert the superiority of western values

Ibn Warraq wins it outright with his introducing position.
So what are we asserting.

In the last few days as the issues have become much more tightly focused, the defense of european rightist movement of ethnic nationality as an ally of those who DO assert the above, breaks down to one thing only...Phillip Dewinter (Vlaams Belang).."would consider them (insistence and demands on outright repudiation of the white europe he called for as a goal) impertinent and irrelevant to his cause if he were aware of them."

Is that the superiority we shall assert?

Shall we assert PRECISELY that we can't help it if white power is among our allies?
Shall we assert that white power is a natural cultural defense because europe was all white, against all demographic perils as we fight off sharia and 9:29 and 9:5?

This is precisely what I have been told in the last few days, and precisely what David Duke says. He just likes the jews less than Mr. DeWinter.

Shall we assert that Le Pen might really be so bad after all? Is that a superiority of western values?

Is there anyone who thinks the mantle of god's blessing will fall on them simply because they are NOT anti semitic?

I assert that it is the GOOD FIGHT to oppose those who believe these things. I assert that to be for white europe as a metaphor or in reality is equal in every single way equal to what Stormfront and David Duke proselytize, regardless of what one thinks of the existence of Israel, and as a jew I can tell you IT SHAMES ME PERSONALLY to have the support of these people in the belief that Israel must exist.

David Duke, Le Pen, and Phillip DeWinter all want the same thing.
It is indefensible.
It i not a western value which can be defended let alone asserted, and I'm sure people I see as allies in the fight I am a part of, such as Ibn Warraq would agree.
Robert Spencer already does.

The very factors which caused europe to be unable to assimilate these mass immigrants, and grant them complete social mobility places them in the position of defending the indefensible.

To such people the only defense left is to brand such as me self righteous do gooder multiculturalists.
I wonder if they understand the irony, and the joke.

They complain that in being called neo nazis by some (not me btw), this ends all rational debate. But now because it really IS impossible to defend racial culture as a political program, they perform exactly the same act.

That's okay.

Rational debate is over. We now have two completely separate anti-salafist and anti khomeinist movements. One of them accepts white europe as valid, with an excuse.

I assert that theirs is going to be in more and more trouble, as those values receive more and more sunshine. Just as more exposure has damaged the the idea that Islam is a religion of peace, and demonstrated the kind of thing taught in too many mosques, so now to white europe.
I hope this is my last post on this subject.