Time for the civil war to end, and address the basic issues

Just as there are outright racists hiding among those who are for a secure border, there are ethnic cleansers among the those for whom the EU has become a Brussels bureaucrat nightmare of lost nations, and washed out history.

The LGF initiated Vlams Belang racism claims thing is impossible to pull apart with any certainty. So I am going to put them aside. But they are disquieting, and reverse smears and insults have turnedit all into a fur ball of personal vitriol.

But the denials (from Dewinter, the leader, in his own words) are clearly obfuscatory and uncomfortable.
Some of Vlaams Belang's ideas:

1. Deportation of economic immigrants who have failed to assimilate (then dropped)
2. Full amnesty for all nazi collaborators in WW2
3. Repeal of anti racism legislation
4. Calls for a white europe and white flanders

Hey why not amnesty for him too? RIGHT?

Oh there are explanations, and metaphors, and non denial denials, and excuses for why Ayaan Hirsi Ali thinks they should be illegal. But when every little thing, and claim like this (when the BDS morons claim Bush is a fascist) is not on its face ridiculous, and is accompanied by the same explanation...When faced with criticism of Vlaams by Pim Fortuyn, and Ayann Hirsi Ali, and others Dewinter claimed that their left wing opponents try to demonize them, and by calling them fascists, then end the discussion without debate on what they have to say ....(he answered questions about this the SAME WAY, rather than actually rebut the criticism) Three times when questioned as to the (admited) neo nazi heritage and WW2 collaboration he returned to this theme..you add this up and you are getting that queazy feeling. Calls for a white Europe, nazi collaboration (JUST LIKE THE GRAND MUFTI OF JERUSALEM) in WW2 (not denied) all excusable, metaphors, need to be understood?

I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY.

I last had this feeling when visiting my German representative, and he introduced me to his father who was head of the company, he was 18 in 1943. My name is an INSTANT revelation of my heritage. He took one look at me, and I know he knew that I knew he was 18, and that I was wondering WHAT HE WAS DOING. He went out of his way to be friendly and I constantly wanted to wash myself.Anecdotal overreaction? Maybe. Maybe not.

I couldn't work with these guys.But I don't have to. Time will reveal who Vlaams Belang is.

The BNP and Nick Griffin, appearing here with the CCC are another story. There is no question there.

In this argument in the last few days at various places, good places, like Gates of Vienna, and Infidel Blogger's Alliance, I have had hte arguments of the CCC and KKK used in favor of Vlaams by europeans (and one American) who had no idea what they were saying.

This is disquieting as well.

I cannot hold hands with the racists who want our border closed because they don't want any more mud people. They are all David Duke, but cuter. They are not for a secure border, they want a closed border with NO immigration BECAUSE they are racists. I want a secure border and REAL immigration by people who want to be americans.

I cannot hold hands with people who want to excuse nazi collaborators and use as a reason that even the USSR did this (did they?), and also call for a white europe then weasel on that by saying it was only metaphor.If these guys were in my foxhole, I'd want them in front me, with one less bullet than I have. No way to go to war.

This issue is settled here, in the mind of this writer