Thursday, March 12, 2009

U.S. Jet Shoots Down Iranian Drone Over Iraq ..YES, THAT'S RIGHT

FROM WIRED:
An American fighter jet shot down an Iranian drone as it was flying over Iraq, U.S. military sources in Baghdad tell Danger Room.

Details of the previously-unreported shoot-down, which occurred last month, are still sketchy. But we do know that American commanders have long accused Tehran of supplying weapons and training to all sorts of Iraqi militant groups. Shi'ite militias fired Iranian rockets at U.S. troops in Iraq, according to the American military; Sunni militias allegedly used Iranian armor-piercing bombs to reduce U.S. vehicles to ribbons.

In early 2008, however, the torrent of Iranian weapons into Iraq slowed to a trickle, the U.S. said. And now, the new Obama administration is looking for ways to reach out to the Tehran regime -- dangling invitations to international conferences, and offering promises of renewed relations.

How do we spell HIZBALLAH? Haifa? Dimona?

Which means the drone incident comes at a particularly sensitive time.

Iran has built an array of unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs. The pneumatically launched Ababil ("Swallow") has a wingspan of more than 10 feet, and cruises at 160 knots, according to Globalsecurity.org. The Mohajer or Misrad ("Migrant") drone is a bit smaller, and slower-flying.

Iran has supplied Hezbollah, the Lebanese terror group, with both models. Misrad drones flew reconnaissance missions in both November 2004 and April 2005. Then, in 2006, during Hezbollah's war with Israel, the group operated both Misrads and Ababils over Israel's skies. At least one was shot down by Israeli fighter jets.

Are we getting the threat growth here?


Since then, Tehran claims to have radically upgraded its unmanned fleet. In 2007, Iran said it built a drone with a range of 420 miles. In February, Iran's deputy defense minister claimed its latest UAV could now fly as far as 600 miles -- a huge improvement over crude drones like the Misrad, if true. Iran often exaggerates what its weapons can do. But, if this drone really can stay in the air for for that long, the Washington Times notes, "it could soar over every U.S. military installation, diplomatic mission or country of interest in the Middle East." Including those in Iraq.

With drones what counts the most BY FAR is undetected loiter time over target.

UPDATE: So I finally got a hold of a spokesman for Multi-National Corps - Iraq. His response "I believe MNF-I [Multi-National Forces - Iraq -- Corps' bosses, basically] is taking the lead on this incident." So then I reach out to MNF-I. A spokesman there wouldn't confirm the shoot-down. Nor would he deny it. "We've got nothing for you, Noah," the spokesman said.

Based on that response, sounds pretty real to me.

And here is a REMINDER from this blog in 4/07.

The longer this delays, the bigger the dance.

Are these guys deterrable?


7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amsterdam bomb attack foiled

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkskrant.nl%2Fbinnenland%2Farticle1163338.ece%2FAmsterdam_ontsnapt_aan_aanslag&sl=nl&tl=en

Damien said...

Epaminondas,

Iran has drones? I didn't know they were that high tech! They maybe an even bigger threat than we thought!

christian soldier said...

I often wonder how these backward thinking countries get the technology-HMMMM
C-CS

Anonymous said...

I wonder the same thing, Christian Soldier. I read on another blog (linking to a JPost article) that Iran is now trying to import a bunch of carbon fiber material. It is ostensibly for fuel tanks, but apparently is used for - wait for it - centrifuges!

Epa just "schooled" me in centrifuge technology over in another thread, so imagine my surprise on seeing yet another centrifuge reference. The carbon fiber is apparently yet another "dual use" material that is restricted under non-proliferation treaties.

None of the non-prol / sanctions seem to work anymore.

I wonder if the ascendance of the OIC at the UN has anything to do with the lack of will to enforce these laws now??

I will tell you that up to at least ten years ago they were enforced with a vengance.

Hmmmmmm....

Ro

Anonymous said...

For your info, we no longer live in the stone age and in caves. If more sensible leaders instead of lunatic like wilders are running the countries, then the world will be a better place. Slanderous bigots like those supporting wilders only belong to madhouses. Repent now.

Epaminondas said...

Anon, if you can identify the SLANDERS you are mentioning, along with the URL , I'll post it as a thread.

Otherwise, you're just , well, slandering.


Iran is not a nation with a bunch of cave dwellers. Every Iranian I have known here is not only smart and hard working as hell, they indicate that the folks back home are just as devoted to the same kind of hard work .. when they can do it.

Damien said...

Anonymous,

You wrote,
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For your info, we no longer live in the stone age and in caves. If more sensible leaders instead of lunatic like wilders are running the countries, then the world will be a better place. Slanderous bigots like those supporting wilders only belong to madhouses. Repent now.
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Even if your view of Wilders was correct, you have shown us no evidence that it is. Plus What Country is Wilders running? The Netherlands? He maybe a part of their government, but he's not the prime minister, and given the way most his fellow Dutch politicians think, he'd have a hard time, even if he was.